"Members of a criminal group can't go on police duty."

[TiMoN]

Oh yes, it's this time of the year where I post a bitch topic about a recently implemented feature that nobody likes or wants.

Which guy thought this would make a great addition to an already almost dead community? In the course of it's (almost)-10 year ride, Argonath has NEVER restricted players from going on police duty because of what? Their friends? A scripted /group?

I don't get the point behind this, no, you're not mimicking a serious-rp servers for doing this, because those servers are smart enough to realize how dumb this concept of a feature is. The only thing you're doing is limiting roleplay opportunities based on what group someone's friends are in. You should be all ashamed of what is happening right now.

Now I'm going to write further more detailing everything that got fucked up because someone think this is a good idea;
1. Corrupt cop roleplay, not that it was ever possible to RP a corrupt cop with the current SAPD.

You can't be in a criminal group and have a hidden rank(don't think this is a good fix to it, it's not)

2. Another usage of the "hidden" rank, see above.

3. I can't be arsed to think of anything else, these 2 points above are enough to revert.


It has also come to my attention that you're not allowed to commit crimes while off duty, as a FUCKING SAPD RECRUIT, like seriously guys this is fucking GTA, you are supposed to commit crimes. Since when has "Implementing Bullshit" been the motto of Argonath? I thought we were about being unique and not shit, if I'm not mistaken you could be apart of a criminal group and SAPD(yes dark color) upto the rank Sergeant back in the day(which mind you we had 200/200 players and people still RPed.

TL;DR? bad idea, this isnt goodrp, this is becoming a new form of shitrp

[Julio.]

100% agree with you.

SAPD members are also not allowed to commit crimes off duty, which I dislike, but I don't write the rules...

I find it particularly amusing that we have a "/characters" system, but even if you were using a different character you still cannot go on duty if you're in a criminal group, or commit crimes as when in the SAPD.

[TheGreasyChopper]

 First we get /character and now this...lol great idea!

[TiMoN]

I find it particularly amusing that we have a "/characters" system, but even if you were using a different character you still cannot go on duty if you're in a criminal group, or commit crimes as when in the SAPD.

Was this script ever put to good use? I've only seen it used to create characters with great names(great as in super fucking funny).

[Julio.]

Was this script ever put to good use? I've only seen it used to create characters with great names(great as in super fucking funny).

I think it was put in place so if the FBI/SAPD take you into custody, you couldn't pretend to RP another character. That's literally the only reason I can think of. There is literally no other script integration involved past the various /characters commands.

[[Rstar]Razor]

Oh yes, it's this time of the year where I post a bitch topic about a recently implemented feature that nobody likes or wants.

Which guy thought this would make a great addition to an already almost dead community? In the course of it's (almost)-10 year ride, Argonath has NEVER restricted players from going on police duty because of what? Their friends? A scripted /group?

I don't get the point behind this, no, you're not mimicking a serious-rp servers for doing this, because those servers are smart enough to realize how dumb this concept of a feature is. The only thing you're doing is limiting roleplay opportunities based on what group someone's friends are in. You should be all ashamed of what is happening right now.

Now I'm going to write further more detailing everything that got fucked up because someone think this is a good idea;
1. Corrupt cop roleplay, not that it was ever possible to RP a corrupt cop with the current SAPD.

You can't be in a criminal group and have a hidden rank(don't think this is a good fix to it, it's not)

2. Another usage of the "hidden" rank, see above.

3. I can't be arsed to think of anything else, these 2 points above are enough to revert.


It has also come to my attention that you're not allowed to commit crimes while off duty, as a FUCKING SAPD RECRUIT, like seriously guys this is fucking GTA, you are supposed to commit crimes. Since when has "Implementing Bullshit" been the motto of Argonath? I thought we were about being unique and not shit, if I'm not mistaken you could be apart of a criminal group and SAPD(yes dark color) upto the rank Sergeant back in the day(which mind you we had 200/200 players and people still RPed.

TL;DR? bad idea, this isnt goodrp, this is becoming a new form of shitrp

Have to agree you even though you should dial back the anger 

Used to have fun going on police duty for short times... I want it back

[Sauron]

Members of criminal groups should be banned from any job, including civilian ones, and not be allowed to own businesses.
Then their only income would be from crime, and those who can not make money as criminal should leave the groups and become civilian or law enforcement. 

[Bogomil]

Members of criminal groups should be banned from any job, including civilian ones, and not be allowed to own businesses.
Then their only income would be from crime, and those who can not make money as criminal should leave the groups and become civilian or law enforcement. 

You forgot about /createcharacter and /usecharacter, Holy God of Argonath

[Gnb_22]

You guys do realise the script is to restrict members of a rebel group and not a criminal group ? Lets be honest if ur apart of a rebel group you're probably not going to be a cop anyways. But since most people hoard groups for car access you seem to get caught in the restriction since you're probably in FLA the only restricted rebel group.

[taseen11]

Members of criminal groups should be banned from any job, including civilian ones, and not be allowed to own businesses.
Then their only income would be from crime, and those who can not make money as criminal should leave the groups and become civilian or law enforcement. 

you switched accounts gandalf? 

It has also come to my attention that you're not allowed to commit crimes while off duty, as a FUCKING SAPD RECRUIT

Who said you can't?
If you want to be a cop, you can't be a criminal, that's how it's supposed to be.
If you want to be a criminal, you can't be a cop, that's how it's supposed to be.
The current character system is flawed as the only thing that changes is the name in /character. Maybe have a 2 account system so people can have one legal and one non legal would be a step forward.

[Johan_S]

Members of criminal groups should be banned from any job, including civilian ones, and not be allowed to own businesses.
Then their only income would be from crime, and those who can not make money as criminal should leave the groups and become civilian or law enforcement. 

I love sarcastic constructive comments. Means that 'script-wise' which prohibits players join cop duty is 10/10 against freedom of roleplay which argonath used to provide.

[.Matthew.]

Character system needs removing or proper introduction. The way it was implemented was too rushed somewhat and unplanned.

[Gnb_22]

You guys do realise the script is to restrict members of a rebel group and not a criminal group ? Lets be honest if ur apart of a rebel group you're probably not going to be a cop anyways. But since most people hoard groups for car access you seem to get caught in the restriction since you're probably in FLA the only restricted rebel group.

Sooo apparently I was wrong, the initial script was suppose to be what I said but apparently changes were made. Thats kind of fked up.

[Norrage]

The current character system is flawed as the only thing that changes is the name in /character. Maybe have a 2 account system so people can have one legal and one non legal would be a step forward.

 . How are you seeing the seperation? What about confidential information shared on the ARPD/FBI forum (as law enforcement character)?

[TiMoN]

Members of criminal groups should be banned from any job, including civilian ones, and not be allowed to own businesses.
Then their only income would be from crime, and those who can not make money as criminal should leave the groups and become civilian or law enforcement. 

I would agree with you if it was the year 1950 or something. Any criminal who deserves to live knows that they have to have a cover, which is why many criminal organizations own legit businesses like nightclubs and diners.

You guys do realise the script is to restrict members of a rebel group and not a criminal group ? Lets be honest if ur apart of a rebel group you're probably not going to be a cop anyways. But since most people hoard groups for car access you seem to get caught in the restriction since you're probably in FLA the only restricted rebel group.

Still doesn't mean I can't be allowed to go on duty when I am not roleplaying as FLA.