Unite.

[CharlieKasper]

SA:MP was the largest community of Argonath and therefore when it dies, the feeling of Argonath dying also comes with it. There are two servers on Argonath which are strill thriving (IVMP and VCMP).

If we have to look at how Argonath can be kept alive, ditch the RPG from Argonath. RPG servers won't go away but Argonath most also openly welcome different gamemods for different games. Ask the community what game they want. Also look for games that are massive in the online gaming space. Look for games that you see has a potential to become a massive online multiplayer. Argonath shouldn't just be primarily GTA.

Online gaming will never go away and if Argonath moves on with time and tries new games, Argonath will be alive for long.

[.Matthew.]

Many of you point out something that's very true, Argonath doesn't know what it is and it's not defined. Is it a serious roleplay, is it a light roleplay, is it a medium roleplay, what is considered acceptable, what not and so on... they make certain groups do some complex roleplay yet other groups don't have to do it. There needs to be clear definition of what roleplay level Argonath is and clear definition of rules, what's acceptable and what not.

Letting every player roleplay on his own level and then punish him when it's not appealing for others or admins isn't gonna lead anywhere good. Everyone should have to roleplay on same level under same rules.

[Duel]

Whilst reading through the topic, I notice why the players are complaining about the a-team due to some people.

I am still glad to see that players are still wanting to keep this server going, I appreciate it.

[Stivi]

Source: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=117134.msg1781825;topicseen#new

You know something really cute. I don't give anything as to cursing because today I lay down a hammer for everyone here.

Justin You have a fucking problem. Wahhh i said fuck. I don't care. I dont give a fuck about what your going to say in return to me and could careless if you refuse to unban me.Your problem here is the following. You became a Moderator and moved up and now an admin and throw everyone that plays around with you like shit. Its like members don't mean nothing to you. Might as well have every single admin on that server and play by yourselfs. Its just a server everyone says but its not. It could be a server or not but in reality its the things you do that thousands of members play>leave and get banned. Rules will be rules yes. ME saying fuck the admins get banned. Look at makayla you have a problem. FUCKING PRY THIS TO YOUR HEAD.

I got banned because of somebody decided from the police swat to shoot at us because we held guns up at FBI or some stink swat truck. Listen. I seen the shit you do in SAMP and everyone here can say this unless you going to call somebody to erase this. You ban like if there is no tomorrow. You dont care about the rules cause you just banned half the server. You and the rest of the admins ban the server. How long do you think SAMP will be there. Its obsolete. I play to have some of my friends with low end equipment to have some fun. But when i look on the list and see other servers going down you should be highly happy to see members. You don't chase them away. And don't tell me we should let them run the fuck around shit.Shut the fuck up and sit down and learn a thing or 2. I ran servers. I bring on about more than 10 members each by name I played with members. I know how to run a server but how the hell can you play samp when people shooting at u before u even say the word hi or hello and they get scot free with a warning but to somebody else 60 min Deathmatching.

Grand Theft Auto is ment for DM you made it into RP. Thats good thats great. But understand. You cant be treating everyone like shit because at the end of the day who ever comes at me for shit like this im not going to be treating you like a happy camper. I can care wholess is going to tell me im a child cause im a fucking older person telling you something so that in future when the server is left with 10 members understand all the shit from when it began to know of what it went through.

Any other admin that has a bone with me and this topic feel free as into talk with me on phone email or etc etc.


Reason why i was banned was from reentering a weed field we planted. Mother Fucker. People was snipping us without /su people was shooting at me before. PEOPLE WAS ATTACKING ME FROM DAY ONE HOW LONG AGO and then im a criminal for this bullshit of bitching to admins. What the fuck is an admin for if he or she is refusing to help. Your nothing without admin privileges. Trust me your nothing. I know you. I really know you. I know you were better than this. You were a good person. But you changed because your balls got attached to admin. Trust me in a couple of year games like these are outdated for good. Enjoy it as your last

I speak for everyone here on behalf of me when i say you need to reconsider players who dont hack, destroy or hurt the server cause them 200 slots is a waste.

Stop banning like there is no tomorrow. I told Devin that even if the guy didn't deserve an unban, every admin should read the post, don't know if you read it, but if you didn't, now you should. And don't laugh about the guy in ateam skype chat, actually read it and "pry it to your head".

[.Matthew.]

Well, I see that our opinions and statements did make some moves be taken. That's a positive thing and encouraging. Hopefully it keeps up with other points and we can have the server back active.

[eymas]

Gone for a day and I return to this...

...with two faces of worry and relief. I am seeing suggestions that look worthwhile to attempt solving this dump we've gotten into, as well as some that I believe cannot be achieved. Some players their actions that prove childish and unacceptable, yet reasonable in the point they are trying to bring.

Even though I dislike an emotional see-saw like this, I guess it's part of being a manager in the first place. Thus I'll take my experiences and hope they'll drive us to a brighter tomorrow. Let's see what I can do.

Remember that you should take unjust banishment complaints to us(mikro/me) immediately or by using the report-a-staff-member form.
Unruly staff members be reported to us immediately as well.

Anything you wish to discuss in private, feel free to hit me on discord or skype.

[Bruce.]

-More than 20+ players are banned and HQ need to give a chance to come back again, yes i know HQ give 2 or 3 chances but atleast give 4 or 5 chances to improve us, as leon said "Admins need to stop working against us."
-I never seen any admins or moderator get banned or any warn, why, did he have 100% RolePlay skills?

- That's up to the player himself to not rulebreak. If you get banned let's say 3 times in 2 months, why does he deserve a fourth chance?
- Because admins have forum boards where they get warned at. A admin being punished isn't something to be public. And yeah as you can see I got punished now. And you say admins don't get punished.

[Bruce.]

NameBruce
Point of improvement:
- Remove the option to spawn somewhere else on relog, it's a roleplay server not a stunt server. You should always spawn where you left. And when die you should spawn at nearest hospital.
- Remove the continues loose of notoriety every 10 minutes. It's basically something that killed the server...if it's not obvious enough.
- Remove /area. For the sake of roleplay this is not needed at all, if you want to find someone get people online and scout.
- The suspect system has to be fully replaced. This one makes us a cops and robbers server.
- Won't even go into the "remove blips" part because I know Gandalf doesn't approve it and without his approval it won't happen. Even tho it would generate more roleplays and more effort to do stuff.
- Add the possibility to jail at all the cells in the PD stations and not only one. It would look more RPish than placing 4 people inside a jail cell.
- Add the possibility to jail more then 90 seconds. Make it 3-4 or even 5 minutes.
- A new interior for the main police stations would be great. I do know Mikal started one but as he said before he lost motivation.

I'll add some more in the future, I had a list full of suggestions but I lost it when cleaned up my laptop so this is all I can remember at the moment.

I hope people are happy now that I got kicked.

[Anto17]

Agreed.

Yeah, I agree "in part" too.   

[TiMoN]

Remove shit administrators with lots complaints on them.

Stop forcing your admin RP mentality down our throats, I don't give a flopping fuck where you came from who from your friends taught you to RP, everyone has their own understanding on how RP works and you should swallow your shit and accept that.

Add promised scripts that were supposed to be there "a few weeks" after RS5.2.

[Stivi]

I'm not going to argue with you, just give my point.  First of all if you don't know why he was banned or didn't see me ban him I wouldn't be accusing me of "banning like there's no tomorrow".

Then don't bring up an argument if you don't want to argue. I, as a few others too, completely agree on you banning for no reason and bullshit reasons. You and Peter as well.

[Justin39]

-being mature and removing my posts, you should do the same.

[Richard.]

Alright, you win!  I have banned people in the past when I probably shouldn't have.  Here's my sincere apology if you want it: I'm sorry. 

What do you want to happen now?  Me get removed like Bruce? May fix something, sure.

It takes guts for someone to admit that...props to you

[jovanca]

Yea guys retarded staff. Im very mad. They banned my friend too

[TrotlDebilni]

It takes guts for someone to admit that...props to you

I know right? all we want is honesty.