SA:MP HQ reform and more coming

[Gimli]

So you're selling manager now and censoring people who talk about it? Argonath really has fallen from it's grace... Anyway, what's the price?

The price is many years and many hours of dedication to improving the server / helping players / etc...

[.Matthew.]

What's the price on yours? :P

I can get you a plane ticket to Wadiya, we can meet up and discuss...

[Gandalf]

All is good, been burning myself out in this world called real life Going to be visiting more often though and excited about the anniversary
I dunno how all that works. The love is one way I guess

Good to see you.
The love was not one way at all, but due to some rights issues that someone exploited the old ranks were reset.

[Khm]

Spoiler for Hiden:

We should organise something to do then.

[Mister_Me]

Hi

First of all thanks for the salt as you call it, also from old HQ members. Its no surprise to me and motivates me even more to go and do my job with my colleagues.
It would be weird if people who mostly don't know me welcome me without criticism. Its even good to read the criticism because it shows people care about the server, and that's exactly the kind of people we need at this very moment.

Some say I'm coming out of the blue, and that's true, only for the last month and a half I've been in the server under a different name to check out the current state so my name might not be familiar to most of the players that are in-game now a days.

Some say I'm inexperienced, that's not true.
I've been an admin on SA:MP from 2007 - 2011 and had to go because for work related reasons. Yet Argonath SA:MP has done a great deal for me and I feel its time to do something back in more then one way, one of which is joining SA:MP HQ.

Anyways I think I speak for all of the current HQ members that we will do our best to make you enjoy SA:MP as much as we did when we were players.

[Mister_Me]

Damn, I think I walked into some CIA operation or something!

Thats my account indeed, but I was on a UC account all the time.

[Devin]

An HQ position should be earned and so is the respect from the players.

[Gandalf]

I'd like to order a.... webmaster and a manager, what'd be the price?

We are taking offers, what can you afford?

For those who wish to make accusations, no the rights have nothing to do with donations.
If you are unsure about it, you are welcome to make donations and see for yourself if you can get any rights.

If someone does a bad job they will be fired, regardless of how much money they contribute (or cost).

[Gandalf]

An HQ position should be earned and so is the respect from the players.

Should have thought of that before I appointed you at that time. Oh wel...

[Salmonella]

An HQ position should be earned.

So, let's make them 'earn it' by being admins/moderators for a year first, while leaving the server without managers for that period?

What's your alternative?

[[NP]Monte Montague]

I begin my post on a positive note.

Back to a full party again. Let's see how it will go.

Best of luck & I am sure that the team will do well.
Hopefully they will learn well on the examples of yesteryear.

Saw it coming from a mile away, sadly all of the staff members spending years and hours of their time helping get shunned whilst others stroll right in.

Hardly shunned & you honestly know that to be the case.
Especially with yourself remaining as "Division Leader" for many years.

Someone posted "Salt" above I think the substance is far more bitter...

Personally I think that this team might just about be able to do ok in balancing things.

Let's NOT criticize these people before they've been able to improve on the legacy they've been left with.

An HQ position should be earned.

No it shouldn't... Argonath was not made for VIP herp derp "you my friend" 7 year old school ground kind of thinking. The "HQ" position which is a generalized term used for: some-one / some people of management or development positions. Their roles and what they should do should be clear cut and not open to interpretation as if they are Gods or as if their position is holy.

[taseen11]

So, let's make them 'earn it' by being admins/moderators for a year first, while leaving the server without managers for that period?

What's your alternative?

Put Grandpa in charge 

[Mang]

Put Grandpa in charge 

Hey, if the price is right... 

[Dean.]

Argonath really has fallen from it's grace...

This. Wish it were otherwise but we can't deny it anymore.

[Ramo_Hawk]

Put Grandpa in charge 

Laugh all you want, most of us still think he'd make a good leader.