Policy

[Julio.]

Ah, if I'm RPing with people who prefer the use of brackets I tend to just stick a couple of brackets on the end for good measure, don't tend to bother otherwise 

[Link9rly]

I myself have used /em for non descriptive purposes on multiple occasions. I think it's okay if we allow people to swap between them if needed. It's better to do that instead of having to /pm every player individually for a question relating to the roleplay, especially since many players are already doing this when a situation arises.

As for your other point, I'm not sure I've ever seen the FBI use /p as roleplay but I do know that they use the forums in roleplay but do so in the roleplay sections (courts, etc). That's latter is honestly fine and hasn't been a problem for anybody. It should be kept the way it is.

Ah, if I'm RPing with people who prefer the use of brackets I tend to just stick a couple of brackets on the end for good measure, don't tend to bother otherwise 

That's not a problem at all. That's just being courteous to the situation.

[.James]

I've seen SAPD members using 'kicked for flooding' as some IC evidence. 

[Julio.]

As for your other point, I'm not sure I've ever seen the FBI use /p as roleplay but I do know that they use the forums in roleplay but do so in the roleplay sections (courts, etc).

Seems to be specific to their initial recruitment 

I think me and you stand virtually side by side in this discussion to be quite honest here, indeed, it won't affect how I roleplay, and I suspect it won't affect you either. Good that there seems to be an open discussion about it here though!

Reminds me of the border scene in the film "Blue Streak"...

[Mario_Rinna]

Let's say you are RPing with some dude and the dude goes "omg admin!!! such meta-game very power-game!". Do you have the patience to sit back now and wait while an admin checks the logs? And if it takes 15 minutes? And if the admin makes a mistake and punishes you? Do you still want "no meta-gaming" and "no power-gaming"?

"No meta-gaming" and "no power-gaming" aren't going to happen. Which member of HQ wants to deal with the consequences of implementing this? Nobody. You have leaders running away from leadership like cats from vacuum cleaners. And this would, what, improve things?

You say "we want this rule," but your HQ understandably gets PTSD just from thinking about the slightest possibility of having to deal with "admin, help, this dude meta-gamed." Who would make the rules and explain them? Who would train admins? Who would deal with the reports and how?

SA-MP HQ does not even have the resources to pull this off. Even if Gandalf said "fuck meta-gaming, get these rules working asap :P", before long you'd be back here writing topics about this problem and that problem, etc.; not to mention that Argonath is a beautiful flower and would probably implement these rules in a way that has nothing in common with what you desire.

[Salmonella]

Let's say you are RPing with some dude and the dude goes "omg admin!!! such meta-game very power-game!". Do you have the patience to sit back now and wait while an admin checks the logs? And if it takes 15 minutes? And if the admin makes a mistake and punishes you? Do you still want "no meta-gaming" and "no power-gaming"?

"No meta-gaming" and "no power-gaming" aren't going to happen. Which member of HQ wants to deal with the consequences of implementing this? Nobody. You have leaders running away from leadership like cats from vacuum cleaners. And this would, what, improve things?

You say "we want this rule," but your HQ understandably gets PTSD just from thinking about the slightest possibility of having to deal with "admin, help, this dude meta-gamed." Who would make the rules and explain them? Who would train admins? Who would deal with the reports and how?

SA-MP HQ does not even have the resources to pull this off. Even if Gandalf said "fuck meta-gaming, get these rules working asap :P", before long you'd be back here writing topics about this problem and that problem, etc.; not to mention that Argonath is a beautiful flower and would probably implement these rules in a way that has nothing in common with what you desire.

This guy gets it. 11 pages of being theoretical philosophers on the subject of regulating roleplay does not make it any less impossible than it was, logistically.

[jovanca]

This guy gets it. 11 pages of being theoretical philosophers on the subject of regulating roleplay does not make it any less impossible than it was, logistically.

Yet these 11 pages of posts still make more sense than this one.

[Salmonella]

Yet these 11 pages of posts still make more sense than this one.

How so?! Let's have a productive discussion about it!

[Julio.]

How so?! Let's have a productive discussion about it!

 

[jovanca]

By managing to keep a civilized discussion through 11 pages long of posts, despite attempts like yours to undermine and derail the topic?

[Salmonella]

By managing to keep a civilized discussion through 11 pages long of posts, despite attempts like yours to undermine and derail the topic?

I've done no such thing. Mario pointed out that even if you come up with all sorts of rules and regulations it's impossible to enforce them. I merely seconded that and rephrased this entire ''civilized discussion''. :/

[jovanca]

What's the point of calling anyone theoretical philosopher for just simply having a normal discussion?

As for Mario's post, no offence but most of it makes no sense at all.

[Bundy]

Let's say you are RPing with some dude and the dude goes "omg admin!!! such meta-game very power-game!". Do you have the patience to sit back now and wait while an admin checks the logs? And if it takes 15 minutes? And if the admin makes a mistake and punishes you? Do you still want "no meta-gaming" and "no power-gaming"?

"No meta-gaming" and "no power-gaming" aren't going to happen. Which member of HQ wants to deal with the consequences of implementing this? Nobody. You have leaders running away from leadership like cats from vacuum cleaners. And this would, what, improve things?

You say "we want this rule," but your HQ understandably gets PTSD just from thinking about the slightest possibility of having to deal with "admin, help, this dude meta-gamed." Who would make the rules and explain them? Who would train admins? Who would deal with the reports and how?

SA-MP HQ does not even have the resources to pull this off. Even if Gandalf said "fuck meta-gaming, get these rules working asap :P", before long you'd be back here writing topics about this problem and that problem, etc.; not to mention that Argonath is a beautiful flower and would probably implement these rules in a way that has nothing in common with what you desire.

take screens of the rulebreak and report them in a specific board on the forum, admins can review with a clear mind and get logs if they please

of course the first month you can cut everybody some slack but everybody should get the concept after that

worth trying

[Gnb_22]

Ok I think you guys are not getting at the core problem.

Its not really metagamng people want to get rid of. Yes its true what they want falls under metagaming its more or less just shitty Role Play. More less people who use OOC information which they should not have known to get an advantage in a situation. This icludes people using /gm /pm etc to find someone while kindapped and all thier methods of communications is removed. This includes identifying criminals by tags /groups etc. Pretty much anything that gives you clear advantage which is clear cut and obvious and doesn't need log checking to identify. I've been hearing the log checking excuse which is pretty lame cause most cases its almost obvious that there is no way for these shit to occure without the use of OOC info. As for enforcing the rules I don't see how is this a problem, just punish the player with a warning or someshit, if it incites a huge DM fest or something, a greater punishment can be handed down. I dont see why the nay sayers are making a big deal.

[Salmonella]

What's the point of calling anyone theoretical philosopher for just simply having a normal discussion?

There's a lesson to be learned in that for everyone who feels addressed. Upto them to learn it or keep playing on the forums instead of ingame.