My little issue, I want your opinion.

[Jeremy.]

All SAPD Senior CMD + are from diferent countries. xD

Ok


Well that happens when you select someone corrupt so he brings his friends and RP together killing criminals, r8 10/10.

Instead, there should be someone leading who has a good RP knowledge and not someone who spawns hydra whenever he's pissed off. Roleplay should be a priority all the time.

[Celso]

Few of them always roll together, no idea what are their ranks but they are considered higher ranks and they are fucking SAPD up.

They have cameras inside their eyes that upload everything to SAPD pc or whatever
They drive by people on foot with M4s
They abuse armoured truck
They provoke people that they killed on public chat
They act as fucking retards on forums
They abuse everything that can be abused
They do not roleplay at all
They act as fucking retards x2
They defend each other so there's no way to report them

Can you PM me the name and evidence of them rulebreaking (SAPD Rules) to my PM, I'll handle it. or you can forward it to our IA or FBI's IA if you refer to any of their agents.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Ok


Well that happens when you select someone corrupt so he brings his friends and RP together killing criminals, r8 10/10.

Instead, there should be someone leading who has a good RP knowledge and not someone who spawns hydra whenever he's pissed off. Roleplay should be a priority all the time.

I agree, it's a bit hard to RP when stuff like this happens, i'm sure you understand.

[Dale.]

SAPD would do better if actual role players were in charge.   Get rid of the sad kids who only now how to keybind spam their shitty /me actions.

[Julio.]

This, in my opinion, is the overall issue in Argonath.

Somehow, police officers have a all-seeing camera system that is magically turned on by waving their dicks around and can't be disabled. In this case, was any of the footage retrieved from the video system by roleplay means? Was the video system even able to see any abusive acts by the officers or did the officer that issued the copban simply assume it would see all?

Moreover, the fact it is "implied on the ARPD forum" is what sickens me the most. Make a message appear when going on duty but keep that shit out of the server if the only place you announce it is on your own little forum.

Lose the win-mentality and start roleplaying in a reasonable way.

No. You don't talk to me like that. Don't place this on me when I'm simply relaying the information. I didn't encourage the implementation of a camera, I didn't implement it. I wasn't even in the SAPD when the decision was made.

[Mark]

Did I copban you for killing that cop at Jefferson? we can't act on a video that's not RPly obtained.
I can however copban you without investigation if you pull something in front of me or my Agents.

You could have not copbanned none of us anyway as the evidence was completely destroyed. Who deserved a copban was the SAPD officer, that once on low hp and beaten up took out his tazer to be a sort of hero, with really poor roleplay (aka none).

If taking screenshots of a roleplay is enough to copban someone in RP it's just stupid. I'd understand if the guy was random attacking or dming on duty but this is not the case.
How did the evidence reach the upper command? By some PM? How did the snitch roleplay as taking out the footage from his multiple cameras on body and cruiser? Sending a few imgur links via PM is roleplay?
Dino even said that he might have deserved it for other stuff he has done in the past days but at least have some decency to catch him in roleplay instead of just taking screenshots and snitch to have your personal gain, i bet the guy even supports metagaming. And SAPD should really consider changing the way copbans are handed out, at least in those cases where there is actually roleplay involved and not just "pew pew episodes".

[Marcel]

No. You don't talk to me like that. Don't place this on me when I'm simply relaying the information. I didn't encourage the implementation of a camera, I didn't implement it. I wasn't even in the SAPD when the decision was made.

Wasn't aimed at you personally Julio. I was addressing the overall issue that exists according to me.

[TiMoN]

Get rid of the shitty 2008 rules and implement actual corruption rules (rules that limit who can and can't RP being corrupt, what can a corrupt cop roleplay). This shit has to be done by the chief of police but we know that job's responsibility is to be as inactive as possible and nothing else.

[Jingle]

@Jingle Do you CK someone if you see a picture of someone snitching ICly?

Never.

> community moans about abusing cops
> complains when corrupt cops get copbanned

Does not apply here.

I would rather copban you for the trolling you been doing for the last weeks.

Well Command have the rights to remove someone of duty if they feel trolling on the radio, trolling in situations and just taking the piss in general of their duty, cop duty is a privilege you simply not take the piss out of having. No admin role here. Simple as Dino and Darren had been trolling for days in advance this was just the top of the iceberg.

They refuse to join the SAPD powerhungry bootlicker train and that makes them filthy trolls. That's interesting. You have a right not to like whatever they were doing, but that does not mean they were breaking SAPD regulations, hence why you haven't copbanned the duo until you found something good enough to charge them with, which ended up being a farce seeing how it's only an unrealistic screenshot that doesn't reveal anything but Dino's /me. If this situation happened to anyone else it would have been voided. You're free to hound whoever you like if you have nothing better to do, but do it right and in good roleplay.

[superh2o]

Yeah you get a camera, but if you attach it or throw it in the trunk its your choice.

And as seeing how cowardly the screens were taken, its just disgusting.

If the players who took the screen had any sense of RP they could have joined in and maybe catch the officers.

In my opinion as all actions of officers who were corrupt and skin changes were done with rp, evidence against them must be RP, they didn't use a aim bot or a some hack so you cant catch them with just RP.

Totally unfair punishments.

[Rei]

I agree, it's a bit hard to RP when stuff like this happens, i'm sure you understand.

Ehhhh......

[Younes]

About the situation, you're complaining for being non RPly copbaned, tell me how did you switch from a male to a female RPly, or did you two had that surgery instantly after this happened.

So you need a surgery to roleplay a different character now?

I agree, it's a bit hard to RP when stuff like this happens, i'm sure you understand.

I agree with you. The porblem of roleplay is not just in SAPD, this is how things work in the server. People no longer like to roleplay.

[Whiteman]

Bring back chief Drix.

[TruthSvensson]

This is clearly cop abuse if you actually tried to arrest the suspects and get money from doing so.

[beLTa]

Bring back chief Drix.

Would you mind stating your problems with Chief Trane?

[Bogomil]

Let's be honest.

SAPD is pure bullshit currently because of the guys that are currently on top of it.

Hint: all of them are from same country

I mean seriously, they made thay camera in eye bullshit, they started powergaming the living shit out of people, I'm pretty sure you know who I am talking about.

Oh please, I stand against SAPD, but in this situation everyone is overtalking...If there is a problem/mistake the right way to find the solution is:

1.Making a report
2.Finding the main problem (IN THIS CASE lack of roleplay from SAPD higher ranks, only in this case)
3.Discussing what caused the problem and finding a solution.
4.Applying the discussed changes.
5.Apology for the mistake.
(6.)Impose penalty if needed

In this case they're wrong, yes. But you can't talk about their cardinal roleplay in that way. And I can assure you that they're on top of SAPD for a reason, I've seen them roleplaying. No one is sinless.
P.S. Dinokid made a great report, well done.