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Offline krystianooTopic starter

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on: September 05, 2016, 04:58:44 pm
Full ingame name: [SS]krystianoo
Approximate date of getting banned: today
Reason of getting banned: 'trying to cause dm fest and 'conspiring to frame other players for rulebreaks'
Further information:
sure it's a tempban but i'd like you to elaborate?
frame other players?
dm fest?
when? i assume when i was playing under an alias and got killed when spawned at hospital, respawned, stayed under it and would be killed again if not returned fire?
you mean killing calin twice in self defense? i assume i was banned because of screens a player sent
well here's some footage of that day then




those are the only moments i have recorded because i don't run fraps 24/7 but it should be enough to prove that calin kept doing shit that day and i couldnt do anything but return fire and use /report (which i probably did, if i didn't then my mistake)

i did kill him once under the crane (as revenge for a previous situation and also the fact that szyma, a polish friend called for help there) and say that he started punching me which was a lie but that was just so admins read that from irc and think its all ok because i didnt want to risk the alias being compromised (sorry) but seeing as it is now then w/e

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that hospital situation, here are some logs:
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[10:28:16] *> CristianCarp killed KyleKirkpatrick123 with a shotgun hitting his car. <*
[10:28:16] CristianCarp has been auto-warned for killing a fellow police officer.
[10:28:38] *> Luisasdasd155 killed RAFONIXHERE with a shotgun to left leg. <*
[10:28:38] Luisasdasd155 has been auto-warned for killing an innocent civilian.
[10:29:12] *> [Elv]Spartain killed RAFONIXHERE with a shotgun to right leg. <*
[10:29:15] *> Luisasdasd155 killed =TDZ=azbeeeeee with a shotgun to right leg. <*
[10:29:15] Luisasdasd155 has been auto-warned for killing a fellow police officer.
[10:29:45] *> CristianCarp killed KyleKirkpatrick123 with a shotgun to body. <*
[10:29:45] CristianCarp has been auto-warned for killing a fellow police officer.
[10:29:46] This is an international server, please use english in the public chat.
[10:29:47] [Advertisement] corrupt cop crustian stay away, contact [Elv]Spartain
so as i was being shot at by him again i took a cop pack
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[10:29:47] RAFONIXHERE has picked up some items from a pack.
[10:29:56] *> RAFONIXHERE killed CristianCarp with a shotgun to left leg. <*
shotly after i was killed by spartain
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[10:30:03] *> [Elv]Spartain killed RAFONIXHERE with a shotgun to body. <*(i sured a sec before and after he killed me i got angry so i sent a report :()

and then, after spawning at the hospital again i took a cop pack with 3 shotgun bullets
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[10:30:14] You have retrieved following items from the pack.
[10:30:14] The pack contains the following items:
[10:30:14] Colt .45 with 83 ammo.
[10:30:14] Pump-Action Shotgun with 3 ammo.
[10:30:14] RAFONIXHERE has picked up some items from a pack.
and as that cristain cop was there again (guess what he was doing) i didn't want to kill him in self defense again because:
1. i had 3 shotgun bullets
2. even if i killed him again then spartain would've killed me when i'd be doing /pick
so i shot spartain instead
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[10:30:17] *> RAFONIXHERE killed [Elv]Spartain with a shotgun to body. <*
and the rest is pretty much known thru logs, i killed cops along with milko and someone else (dont remember the name) but as we were wanted it didn't seem like dm to me..

the hospital situation might differ a bit from reality but probably only in details, sorry, i don't have a perfect memory

if it's possible i'm also asking you to post evidence that warranted mine and milko's ban, but if it were logs only then i assume this post clears everything up?



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Reply #1 on: September 05, 2016, 05:41:02 pm
As for the Gomiro situation; I was scammed by him on the crate mini-mission (he didn't give me a cut, just went afk) so me and Milko decided to kill him - and we did. We did not give him a chance to roleplay back because it was a hit and we would've killed him regardless - anyway, as we opened fire on his Hotring Racer he paused the game and after a short time unpaused again - and after killing him and driving away Milko said that we 'should do this more often, so he gets permbanned' - something like this, which is what you may have meant with 'conspiracy to frame other players'. However this was purely a reference to Gomiro going afk when we were trying to kill him.

I do not realize how this is provoking a DM-fest; it was purely revenge for a scam AND after we did it, Gomiro respawned, drove in a Voodoo to Starfish Island, went out of his car, runned up to me and killed me with a flamethrower; with no words. Go check logs if you don't believe me.

He was shortly after banned for going AFK when being wanted, which is true - I personally used /report after azbee complained about Gomiro being AFK because he was already banned for the same sh..t; he went AFK 2 times (2 times I experienced) after a smuggle; after the second time he got banned for it.

If by 'Deliberately trying to cause a deathmatch fest' you mean Milko /shouting messages about 'razors' then they were shouted so Milko has a quick T, arrow up and enter (can say the message quickly). This was in no way provoking.



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Reply #2 on: September 05, 2016, 06:17:37 pm
I assume Marcell has sent you my explanation on Skype but I'll go over it again here. I will also be answering both Milko and your unban request together.

First of all, Gomiro's case will and have been handled separately and I fully understand why Gomiro went AFK and I believe it has been clarified to him about it. Also do keep in mind that this ban is about you, not anyone else. So, if you want to report other players for any rule breaks done send it to [email protected].

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04/09/2016 [12:23] --COMMAND-- [SS]milko_the_ace: /l good
04/09/2016 [12:23] --COMMAND-- [SS]milko_the_ace: /l we kill soprano?
04/09/2016 [12:23] --COMMAND-- [SS]krystianoo: /area gomi
04/09/2016 [12:23] --COMMAND-- [SS]krystianoo: /l no, gomiro
04/09/2016 [12:23] --COMMAND-- [SS]krystianoo: /l message is
04/09/2016 [12:23] --COMMAND-- [SS]krystianoo: /l /s we dont like nar in this own
04/09/2016 [12:23] --COMMAND-- [SS]krystianoo: /l town*
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04/09/2016 [12:32] --COMMAND-- [SS]milko_the_ace: /s The razors are not welcome to this area you stupid motherfucking bitch cunt asshole piece of shit gay bastard gypsy don't cry after watching titanic you idiot
04/09/2016 [12:33] --COMMAND-- [SS]milko_the_ace: /s The razors are not welcome to this area you stupid motherfucking bitch cunt asshole piece of shit gay bastard gypsy don't cry after watching titanic you idiot

This is more than enough of a proof that you are trying to start a dm fest. We know you are trying to pick a fight with Sopranos and NAR ingame just so you either a) have an excuse to deathmatch them and/or b) have  a reason to report them if they were to kill you.

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04/09/2016 [12:33] --COMMAND-- [SS]milko_the_ace: /l we should do it frequently so I record him and get him permabanned

Not to forget this. Of course people reading this are gonna give you the benefit of the doubt because "it is just a statement we said in /l" but I'm not buying it.


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Reply #3 on: September 05, 2016, 06:48:20 pm
Our beef with Soprano is something else that is going on for probably more than a month by now and I don't see any reason to bring it here..

I do realize the message Milko said might seem like we're trying to start something, but no, we don't. I stood near the crate when it was in Vice Point Beach and Gomiro flew by, did /pickcrate and sold it without me - which is the reason for killing him.
Assuming that we killed Gomiro to provoke something b/w NAR and SS is stupid because that would be too costly in terms of weaponry and lifes - and we both know it.
I admit, the message I gave might not prove that however I wasn't really thinking of any other messages at that time. (the 'we don't like the X in this town' is the most basic one you can get)


I don't have anything to say about that last /l.. all I can tell you is that Milko doesn't like Gomiro and we both don't like each other either - he was collecting money for the Vercetti mansion and we bought it before him (which is the reason for our conflict); Milko just said this line because Gomiro paused when we were firing at him and you can say 'feelings' influenced him - we have no intentions of witch-hunting anybody.



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Reply #4 on: September 05, 2016, 07:04:38 pm
Our beef with Soprano is something else that is going on for probably more than a month by now and I don't see any reason to bring it here..

I do realize the message Milko said might seem like we're trying to start something, but no, we don't. I stood near the crate when it was in Vice Point Beach and Gomiro flew by, did /pickcrate and sold it without me - which is the reason for killing him.
Assuming that we killed Gomiro to provoke something b/w NAR and SS is stupid because that would be too costly in terms of weaponry and lifes - and we both know it.
I admit, the message I gave might not prove that however I wasn't really thinking of any other messages at that time. (the 'we don't like the X in this town' is the most basic one you can get)


I don't have anything to say about that last /l.. all I can tell you is that Milko doesn't like Gomiro and we both don't like each other either - he was collecting money for the Vercetti mansion and we bought it before him (which is the reason for our conflict); Milko just said this line because Gomiro paused when we were firing at him and you can say 'feelings' influenced him - we have no intentions of witch-hunting anybody.

Since I can't edit posts, I would also like to clarify that what we mean by Gomiro attempting to death-evade is: Gomiro unpaused, we fired, he paused, unpaused after a short duration of time and got killed.
Which is why Milko said what he said; framing would be: 'produce false evidence against (an innocent person) so that they appear guilty.'. His idea, if executed, wouldn't be framing but rather looking for excuses in order to attack him, record the attack - and if he pauses, report him. That is in no way framing him, but rather checking if he rulebreaks.

I think that clears us of the 'framing' charge, right?

As for the first charge, 'deliberately trying to cause a deathmatch fest' - I think we have explained why did we attack him already.



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Reply #5 on: September 05, 2016, 07:27:20 pm
Nope. That wouldn't clear you nor Milko of the "charges" because we know why Gomiro alt+tabbed out and we have cleared up that situation with him.

Plus you trying to force a rule break out of someone so you can record them doing is something I do consider as "framing" and I stand by my decision.


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Reply #6 on: September 05, 2016, 07:36:17 pm
Gomiro paused the game to report you to Klaus and that is why he was tempbanned (unbanned after 22 hours after it was all sorted out).

Then fuzzie dug in the situation and he found out the logs he posted earlier.

Adding in the fact that there's been multiple reports of you deathmatching and/or provoking someone to deathmatch so you can report them to the admins, you are now tempbanned for instigating a rulebreak to get the player punished and outright deathmatching. The ban will stand for the full duration.

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