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sooo why is drug market disabled

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Reply #15 on: February 15, 2017, 05:08:11 pm
The drug market was disabled as it pumped too much, and too high of an amount of money in to the server, as I stated above, a player could earn between 20-30 million a month by not doing a single thing himself, that is just a single player, not a maffia, not a group, just a single player that is not affiliated with any groups.
The plan is not to directly nerf the market, how ever to change it so that is still a possibility, how ever that'd be a possibility for a large maffia, for example the size of Gvardia, or Corleone, and especially if that group is official.
So that specific player(who I have a slight idea who he might be) recruited people to make meth for him and bought it for ~100 and then sold 170k for 170/g at the BM? I don't see how there's anything wrong here?

As I said just add the old system until developers come back, you're killing the server(whose majority is criminal), just come take a look ig.



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Reply #16 on: February 15, 2017, 05:09:18 pm
So that specific player(who I have a slight idea who he might be) recruited people to make meth for him and bought it for ~100 and then sold 170k for 170/g at the BM? I don't see how there's anything wrong here?

As I said just add the old system until developers come back, you're killing the server(whose majority is criminal), just come take a look ig.
I will discuss the temporarily adding of the old system once I can get a hold of a developer, I do not have the old script myself, and don't have access to the latest git.

Thank you for your ideas.



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Reply #17 on: February 15, 2017, 05:12:38 pm
I will discuss the temporarily adding of the old system once I can get a hold of a developer, I do not have the old script myself, and don't have access to the latest git.

Thank you for your ideas.
Another temporary solution is managers buying drugs from players like they did back in 2008-2012



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Reply #18 on: February 15, 2017, 05:16:34 pm
how do you actually pick your scripters?



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Reply #19 on: February 15, 2017, 05:19:18 pm
We are heavily lacking on dedicated scripter. If we dont find someone who is dedicated to actually script and not hunt that rank that gives reputation x99999999 we are gonna rip.

I believe Argonath will be back as soon as the exams are over.
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Reply #20 on: February 15, 2017, 05:25:17 pm
So, you want to return the old system, managers spawn money and the players will start cying on their pm to buy their weed ? You can nerf it a little bit and thats all.


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Reply #21 on: February 15, 2017, 05:37:08 pm
I am aware of why the scripter has left and am still in close contact with him, I have accepted it and have agreed with it, but I doubt you know the reason.

I do also not like disabling scripts, but  from a HQ point of view, if something is a threat to something mayor in a community, for example the economy, and there's no instant fix available, sometimes things have to be disabled.

As I posted previously, the priority is set at getting the drug market back online, in a more stable manner. Players will still be able to obtain a large amount of money, for a higher quantity of drugs in the new market, and official groups will once again have a priority in sale, if all goes by the current plans.
I do not know for sure, or rather I wouldn't say it in public, the exact reason why Dylan left. But I doubt it's because players didn't appreciate what he does, because we do. Every single one who still plays the game, we care. Yes we complain, because there's certain things such as deciding what gets implemented and what doesn't, that is in the hands of HQ and Gandalf. And I can surely say that they are not doing their best, but lately I see some progress to the right direction.

So instead of stopping the money influx for certain someone, you decide to take the "fun" off of everyone else. Good thinking, HQ. That makes you lose players. Legit, today I asked in /p how to make money now that there's no DM, I do NOT want to truck. At least drug dealing brought some RP.

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Reply #22 on: February 15, 2017, 06:08:18 pm
The drug market was disabled as it pumped too much, and too high of an amount of money in to the server, as I stated above, a player could earn between 20-30 million a month by not doing a single thing himself, that is just a single player, not a maffia, not a group, just a single player that is not affiliated with any groups.
The plan is not to directly nerf the market, how ever to change it so that is still a possibility, how ever that'd be a possibility for a large maffia, for example the size of Gvardia, or Corleone, and especially if that group is official.

I knew it, I can feel you. Not only that single player getting rich but he is making rich other players too, lets say that person and his group introduced this drug script to half of the new players and made them stay and enjoy their game play on the server. Just because of that single person, you ruined the game of others. I really appreciate your work. The scrip was going just fine until they realized that a single person is making millions and making other players millionaire too.

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Reply #23 on: February 15, 2017, 06:23:40 pm
Script should be re named to printing money then.



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Reply #24 on: February 15, 2017, 07:05:46 pm
tbh if someone kept making huge profits over the work of others as you claim, he should've been punished instead of removing the script. If the script needs to be fixed you don't instantly disable it, remember trucking? it was fine, it just had to be fixed and prices should've been cut a bit, but how much did it take to get back on the server? too much. Those who used it because they were damn greedy got banned, alot of people had the chance to come clean and admit their mistake, i'm not sure if this would work nowdays though :lol:.
I do remember scripters having different plans for trucking but people wanted something that could've justified a trucking company, they also needed a legal job where to make profit if criminal life wasn't for them and the current script still offers this even tho nobody is interested in the job.

Bring it back, punish those who use it over newbies/regulars who have no clue about the drug market. You do not have to punish everyone, but if someone or a group is clearly taking advantage of these people to make insane profits hence killing the drug market system and giving no space to others, you gotta stop him till something better is scripted. I don't give a crap about those wannabe drug lords who cry if they don't have at least 1M in hand, after earning a shit-ton of virtual cash over the work of others you should be satisfied and at least stop for a while and let also others eat a part of the cake.


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Reply #25 on: February 15, 2017, 07:10:54 pm
Argonath Police Simulator haha everything for criminal lifrstyle is ruined like C4, Craft weapons and all that shit


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Reply #26 on: February 15, 2017, 07:16:15 pm
"we don't want to ruin the economy like in RS4"

I believe Argonath will be back as soon as the exams are over.
SA:MP server is currently in a decent state with a stable player base of around 20-25 people on a daily basis.


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Reply #27 on: February 15, 2017, 08:45:51 pm
Bring it back, punish those who use it over newbies/regulars who have no clue about the drug market. You do not have to punish everyone, but if someone or a group is clearly taking advantage of these people to make insane profits hence killing the drug market system and giving no space to others, you gotta stop him till something better is scripted. I don't give a crap about those wannabe drug lords who cry if they don't have at least 1M in hand, after earning a shit-ton of virtual cash over the work of others you should be satisfied and at least stop for a while and let also others eat a part of the cake.

I can smell  :rolleyes:

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Reply #28 on: February 15, 2017, 11:06:11 pm
Lmao what is this some fucking soviet russia simulator? punish whole server cause some people got too rich? Anything that can be grinded will produce ridiculous profits overtime, doesn't matter if you buy drugs for weeks from others and sell them higher or if you nolife trucking, its just natural cycle of any video game...



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