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Reply #15 on: March 12, 2017, 09:28:43 pm
Turkish people are crazy and im turkish for my country im ready to give everything
Aren't you Bulgarian?



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Reply #16 on: March 12, 2017, 09:40:52 pm
Aren't you Bulgarian?
Born in Bulgaria as turkish

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Reply #17 on: March 13, 2017, 01:33:50 pm
I'm all for supporting the Netherlands in this matter.
I ain't racist but I ain't a big fan of the extreme "multiculturalism" going on in most of Europe either.

IMO long time immigrants should lose their native country's rights to vote unless they return permanently.  Makes absolutely no sense.
Just my 2 cents on the matter.



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Reply #18 on: March 13, 2017, 01:40:57 pm
What putin? What you talking about mate
So you have to start read the news more often because putin is nobody
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This aint about Turkey-Netherland, nor about Turks, this is about the fact that Erdogan sends his guy to Netherland to create a party rally among Turkish population, in order to gain votes for Erdogan's plan, to give even higher power to the President function in Turkey, aka to Erdogan.

Its really politically retarded that you wanna organize a a rally of your political party in another country, specially in a country so far away.

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Reply #19 on: March 13, 2017, 01:41:26 pm
I'm all for supporting the Netherlands in this matter.
I ain't racist but I ain't a big fan of the extreme "multiculturalism" going on in most of Europe either.

IMO long time immigrants should lose their native country's rights to vote unless they return permanently.  Makes absolutely no sense.
Just my 2 cents on the matter.
Ever heard of dual citizenship?

Naše će sjene hodati po Beču,lutati po dvoru,plašiti gospodu.


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Reply #20 on: March 13, 2017, 01:58:06 pm
What putin? What you talking about mate
So you have to start read the news more often because putin is nobody

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Reply #21 on: March 13, 2017, 02:38:50 pm
Ever heard of dual citizenship?

Yes and that is the exact problem.. either intergrate into the ways of the new country or move back.. easy as that.



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Reply #22 on: March 13, 2017, 03:02:41 pm
Yes and that is the exact problem.. either intergrate into the ways of the new country or move back.. easy as that.
You, just like Razor, are mixing two completely different things.

Integration or not, into a new society is one thing, having rights in both the country of your origin and your new country is something else.


Multiculturalism is a wide subject, that you need to analyze and debate deeply. Multiculturalism is possible, but then again its impossible, depending on which mix of cultures are we talking about, and where.

I think everyone who emigrates to a new country, should obey the laws, and respect the culture and tradition of his new country, but he should as well continue carrying for his own tradition and culture, if that's his choice of course.

Its a sensitive balance, and the problem occurs when one of these two are OP toward the other.

You need two for tango, both the will of the emigrants to accept some common values in their new country, and the Government to recognize the need of their emigrants.

You can't tolerate any discrimination toward Muslim population, but then again you can't allow 100 mosques in a city that doesnt have such tradition. Its all about balance.

As for the West Europe, you guys are just getting a boomerang back into your face, for the colonization of African and Asian countries. The entire West Europe was building and developed on the resources from the colony, and the huge emigration problem you're facing is the bill for it.

What's really funny, your politicians havent learn the lesson from  their colonist ruler, yet they go and destroy a well developed countries like Lybia and Syria, for their own interests, and then you have people crying for millions of emigrants from those same countries.

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Reply #23 on: March 13, 2017, 05:07:50 pm
Turkish people are crazy and im turkish for my country im ready to give everything

HAHAHAHAAHAHAH dude you need to read news because once upon time Erdogan asslicked Putin ass and apolgized directly to him after he shoot down 2 russian jets.


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Reply #24 on: March 13, 2017, 05:51:29 pm
HAHAHAHAAHAHAH dude you need to read news because once upon time Erdogan asslicked Putin ass and apolgized directly to him after he shoot down 2 russian jets.

Erdogan tries to act tough when he barely holds any leverage... the guy can just mind his own business and continue with his goats..



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Reply #25 on: March 13, 2017, 06:04:01 pm
Erdogan tries to act tough when he barely holds any leverage... the guy can just mind his own business and continue with his goats..

ye hah i dont know why NATO have Turkey, they are just a troublemaker country and messing with everyone.

Greece, Kurds, Armeniens and much more country are against Turkey and dislike the turks


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Reply #26 on: March 13, 2017, 08:10:46 pm
You, just like Razor, are mixing two completely different things.
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I agree with your view but I didn't mean multiculturalism is impossible or bad. It's just that everywhere I look (I'm living in France) there are problems with some immigrants from certain countries and ethnicities(hoping no-one gets triggered :war: ) specifically Arabic people.. I ain't against any race specifically,  as in being racist, but there are things that are going horribly wrong with such a huge percentage of Arabic people.  I have met alot of Arabic people in my line of work and they are all good people.. But that is the only side that I see in my personal life - out there I see most French people carry a dangerous hatred for Arabic/Muslim people because, obviously, the terrorist attacks and because of crime.. Most of the drug trade is ran by Arabic people..

Sorry.. Gone rambling but the point is that other European countries aren't oblivious to these kind of things.. I don't blame them for this so called "Islamophobia" (God I hate this kind of labelling), It's only natural that they act to defend themselves.



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Reply #27 on: March 13, 2017, 09:52:05 pm
#BREAKING Turkey won't allow Dutch ambassador to return to Ankara: deputy PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/AFP/status/841386372611076100

BREAKING: Turkey says it is halting all high-level political discussions with the Netherlands.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/841385049874432001

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Reply #28 on: March 13, 2017, 10:22:10 pm
#BREAKING Turkey won't allow Dutch ambassador to return to Ankara: deputy PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/AFP/status/841386372611076100

BREAKING: Turkey says it is halting all high-level political discussions with the Netherlands.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AP/status/841385049874432001

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I'd say just close our embassy in turkey, cut trading relationships and just have it over with. Deport the non working crime committing turkish people back to turkey and save a ton of money on funding unemployment checks and basic prisoner cost.



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Reply #29 on: March 13, 2017, 10:23:53 pm
I'd say just close our embassy in turkey, cut trading relationships and just have it over with. Deport the non working crime committing turkish people back to turkey and save a ton of money on funding unemployment checks and basic prisoner cost.

And remove the Turkish ambassador and escort him out aswell. Damn this Erdogan.

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