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Removing Suspection for car kill

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on: March 25, 2017, 01:34:49 pm
As you know many crimes that are DM are by aciddent, maybe not for "producing drugs" However I'm here to eleminate the accidental car kills suspection, if however it continues then it's known as a rulebreak and an a staff should handle it.
Other than RP DM's or cop to RPed criminal suspection it should be allowed.

Because lets say you are parked doing nothing in a heli when someone enters it , u become suspect due to script ejecting the other player to heli blades.

You are probably thinking that " since car killing wont get me suspected , how about I car kill more often?" There is a difference in being a criminal and a rulebreaker, many players will drive more carefully and avoid killing anyone to not be questioned by staff on why did he do it.

So this idea overall will 100% agree with light RP server, you won't get suspected for a crime if you didnt intend for it to happen.
You were driving normally on a highway 120km/h , someone spawns suddenly , you are a criminal and bunch of cops are after you, you feel uncomfortable, unsafe and might promote the idea of you staying away from everyone.

Same thing goes to officer, you are in a chase or you are cruising normally and someone in a bike crashes into you, you lose 500$ .
So you are anti social a bit until a crime pops up.

The fear of being a criminal as a civilan, and the fear of losing 500$ shall disappear.

If someone on a bike like to stunt on ur low car, should you report them ?, what if no staff is there ?
Should you worry about evading unwillingly or esc which isnt allowed to report on forums ?

I clearly think that Suspection for accidental car kills should be removed.
Anyone seen car killing or having fun rulebreaking will end up replying in the unban request.

I'm well aware that by this being implimented , people who didnt care about car killing, because once dead , they lose 200$ only and can easily recover it by doing a mission 1200$ thinking that they can run away from rulebreaking by paying a small fee, this should not be tolerated!

Now what about newcommers who will go on killing spree and not get suspected ?
Since they are newcommers, regardless of their crime most officers wont chase them.
Maybe for few new offices, they may trick them into /gu for a healthy 1000$ profit.
This all can be ignored and fixed if car killing suspection is removed.

So if you agree with me show me a support
If you disagree state why and add unsupported



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Reply #1 on: March 25, 2017, 01:42:37 pm
Supported



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Reply #2 on: March 25, 2017, 02:35:51 pm
The idea is supported, but I don't know if it is possible to cancel the automated suspection. But, if it is, then, it should be implemented. I hope that most new players can be talked out not to carkill.

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Reply #3 on: March 25, 2017, 03:22:29 pm
The idea is supported, but I don't know if it is possible to cancel the automated suspection. But, if it is, then, it should be implemented. I hope that most new players can be talked out not to carkill.
Without scripting anything killing another player wont suspect you.
a whole scripting was done into making this possible, changing player blip color to orange, also sending message to officers in duty faction, setting a timer for evasion.
all of this was made.
it can however be /cs automatically on a car kill situation if the script of suspecting cant be cancelled itself.



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Reply #4 on: March 25, 2017, 03:39:44 pm
Not suported.

Reason you said for your self, "Anyone seen car killing or having fun rulebreaking will end up replying in the unban request."

You get car killed you should use /report, you don't wanna use /report you fail your duty as a veteran player who should know better, also by not reporting you lose your right to say hey this dude is carkilling me 10 times and isn't punished, and that's because you didn't report him for any of those carkills.

Admins see all reports contrary to public belief.
We dont ignore reports unless they are invalid in some way, example player reporting other players for lawbreaking.
All who are seen or proven to have carkilled with no rp reason get banned.

All that is required if you wish to have a gaming experience with little rulebreaking is to report the same, sure it might not be instant but as you can see  we have removed all players who had no intentions to follow server rules.

All that is asked from players is that when they see rulebreaking they report the same and not sit on it and then make a topic later blaming others. (I dont mean this topic)



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Reply #5 on: March 25, 2017, 03:46:00 pm

All that is asked from players is that when they see rulebreaking they report the same and not sit on it and then make a topic later blaming others. (I dont mean this topic)
If admins are offline, how do you propose someone to /report, he will need a screenshot and to alt+tab the game while being suspect which isn't allowed. to finally send it to a staff asap.
or wait to evade the officers then report, maybe /gu , or even go into investigation just to report something simple.
If car killing is not allowed, then why make it tolerable to others to car kill and make officers chase them?

Is it because if suspention on accidental car kills will be removed there will be no job for officers?
because the way I see it many players play peacefully and dont indent to be suspects, but due to other people mistakes they are forced to RP and feel humiliated.



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Reply #6 on: March 25, 2017, 04:01:14 pm
If admins are offline, how do you propose someone to /report, he will need a screenshot and to alt+tab the game while being suspect which isn't allowed. to finally send it to a staff asap.
or wait to evade the officers then report, maybe /gu , or even go into investigation just to report something simple.
If car killing is not allowed, then why make it tolerable to others to car kill and make officers chase them?

Is it because if suspention on accidental car kills will be removed there will be no job for officers?
because the way I see it many players play peacefully and dont indent to be suspects, but due to other people mistakes they are forced to RP and feel humiliated.

In game function /report nothing else.
As i said /report is the fastest way to notify all admins, and i don't mean forum pm report but the ig one.
Investigations are fast when officers are reasonable.
 And that's why there is set new PD test before you can be on /duty, to minimize the risk of any player getting abused.


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Reply #7 on: March 25, 2017, 04:06:59 pm
In game function /report nothing else.
As i said /report is the fastest way to notify all admins, and i don't mean forum pm report but the ig one.
Investigations are fast when officers are reasonable.
 And that's why there is set new PD test before you can be on /duty, to minimize the risk of any player getting abused.
I`m talking about not giving su from server  to players for  accidental car kills, not for new officers to use /su ID Reason



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Reply #8 on: March 25, 2017, 04:11:15 pm
And i'm talking about what to do in case you do get suspected by script for something you didn't do.

Especially if it was a rulebreak how it happened.



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Reply #9 on: March 25, 2017, 04:44:40 pm
why do you want to give more unneeded job to the admins? accident kill or not it's still a law break, it should be resolved in a roleplay way if both parties are willing to cooperate of course...


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Reply #10 on: March 25, 2017, 05:56:17 pm
There is a technology called Investigation.



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Reply #11 on: March 25, 2017, 07:32:13 pm
There is a technology called Investigation.
Yeah someone`s else fault , and you have to force RP an investigation feeling helpless then 99% get jailed.



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Reply #12 on: March 25, 2017, 07:33:42 pm
why do you want to give more unneeded job to the admins? accident kill or not it's still a law break, it should be resolved in a roleplay way if both parties are willing to cooperate of course...
We have plenty of admins, I don't think it will add to their job, there can be 32 player max at the server only, which is hardy achieved.
 



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Reply #13 on: March 25, 2017, 07:45:21 pm
Yeah someone`s else fault , and you have to force RP an investigation feeling helpless then 99% get jailed.
I seriously be wondering wether you guys join the community simply because you love Roleplay-ing or just to have fun. To remind you, The community called Argonath RPG in wich the RPG stands for " Role Play Game ". Well, no one is forced to roleplay but in some cases you can't react or end the situation only using some Roleplay basics.



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Reply #14 on: March 25, 2017, 07:55:45 pm
I seriously be wondering wether you guys join the community simply because you love Roleplay-ing or just to have fun. To remind you, The community called Argonath RPG in wich the RPG stands for " Role Play Game ". Well, no one is forced to roleplay but in some cases you can't react or end the situation only using some Roleplay basics.
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RP is the daily dose of chatting and interacting, but having someone crash into you or stand purposely in highway to get killed, and then later on be forced to have an investigation is unpleasing.
There can be frustration at times, so how about we test out not having car kills give suspection but rather be as bad as /report id car ramming, yes friends can ram each other and not report about it, what about killings, there is a log and it can demonstrate killings.
Having things more tight is better



 


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