Building a new PC

[Bruce.]

Well hello.
I am saving money atm to self build a gaming PC, not a extreme one tho.
Well I guess I would be able to spend up to 500-600 euros or maybe up to 700.
Now, I need your help to make a good combination of the parts. All I need is some suggestion regarding the specs, what should they be and how well would they fit each other.

[Matt Murdock]

I hate how it shares entire lists, but here you go -_-

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Kylesforza/saved/#view=3XW8dC

Recommended upgrade : get a 550W PSU of same model instead of 450W.

[James]

GTX 750 Would be good though

[Mark]

If i were you i'd ask this on a different forum tbh. Just for the sake of your wallet.

Some quick tips: don't buy an i3 if you want a gaming proof machine for at least 3-4 years and aim at Pascal GPUs, above a 1050ti they cost but they are currently worth it if you want a build that can last some years.

[ahmedXD]

 Ultimate build I made for you price varies no monotor, keyboard,mouse included

The gpu is gtx 1070 910$ (6th gen BCLK OVERclockable locked i5)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sywtqk

Exact same build with gtx 1060 770$ (6th gen BCLK overclockable locked i5)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fd4tqk

Gtx 1070 build but with new i5(7th gen) non overclockable 866$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dHVdwV
Gtx 1060 build bt with new i5(7th gen) non overclockable 730$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hyDCvV

Difference between 1070 and 1060 is that 1070 can give you an additional year to be up with performance before you plan to upgrade again.

Mid range builds , using an i3 with 1060 (never use i3 with 1070 it will bottlekneck ) 702$(overclockable i3)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MzmftJ
By the way on 6th gen builds and the i3 build you can use stock cpu cooler and save 25$, but you will not be able to overclock that much when compared to custom cooler master cpu cooler, it will also keep your pc less throaling and giving you less fps drops when playing games.


Low range (unrecommended cannot be upgradable in terms of gpu, cpu can be upgraded to an overclocked i5,i7 in the future, then only gpu can be upgraded, as well as the ram can expand to 16gb) uses pentium 2 core 4 thread like an i3, gtx 1050ti 426$
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Th6nFd

[Mark]

^ that's what i was talking about 

Why a WD Green and why a 6400 when the 6500 has higher clock speeds and it costs just 20 euros more? Why are you putting a Z170 motherboard which could be used for OC when the processor isn't even a K variant? Where is the SSD? The real question here is if you are ready to waste cash or get something serious that is future proof enough.

[ahmedXD]

^ that's what i was talking about 

Why a WD Green and why a 6400 when the 6500 has higher clock speeds and it costs just 20 euros more? Why are you putting a Z170 motherboard which could be used for OC when the processor isn't even a K variant? Where is the SSD? The real question here is if you are ready to waste cash or get something serious that is future proof enough.

6th gen skylake locked i3 , i5 even i7 are overclockable by BCLK on z170 motherboard.
SSD has low life span and does nothing special but load games like gta v 10 seconds faster and loads windows faster, it wont give you any performance gains
Before i even post I'm 100% sure of what I'm posting I have built 5 pc's myself and fully knowledgeable in PC's, go ahead and ask other question.
For example the pentium G4560(60$) I recommended in the end is better than i3-4170(110$)
Its the same 2 core , 4 threads, faster single core performance.

[AK47]

Buying a lets say 120GB SSD just to boot OS is a good thing to do as it is a very big different from booting on a HDD.

[ahmedXD]

Buying a lets say 120GB SSD just to boot OS is a good thing to do as it is a very big different from booting on a HDD.

I got an SSD its a total mess you have to configure windows to install all apps on your other hdd, copy and keep everything there.
A single hdd will do and if he needs an ssd in the future he can add it to the build.
Motherboards come with 2 sata cables, case supports 3 3.5" internal bays and 3 2.5" internal bays.
So in theory supports addition 2 hhd and 3 ssds, motherboard can support upto 6 so its perfectly matching.
Any more question?

[AK47]

I got an SSD its a total mess you have to configure windows to install all apps on your other hdd, copy and keep everything there.

I did not have to do that when I recently put my new PC together.

[ahmedXD]

^ that's what i was talking about 

Why a WD Green and why a 6400 when the 6500 has higher clock speeds and it costs just 20 euros more? Why are you putting a Z170 motherboard which could be used for OC when the processor isn't even a K variant? Where is the SSD? The real question here is if you are ready to waste cash or get something serious that is future proof enough.

Right on the 6400 over 6500 because in overclock it will hit same 4.6ghz mark on both no noticeable difference.
However when I made the 7th gen build I choose the 7500 over 7400 I know what you mean.

I did not have to do that when I recently put my new PC together.

Windows -SSD
Apps like Photoshop, office and lets say you record stuffs -HDD.
I ran a command and edited regedit to make new apps install on HDD not SSD, apps tend to store cache and stuff and your SSD will be low on storage.
I would rather had a HDD for the sake of easines.
Althought SSD is nice but it doesn't give you even 1 fps more in games.
So its up to bruce if he would like to add SSD 40$ for 120gh  or not.
But it won't give any fps more than normal HDD

[AK47]

Lol, noone said that SSDs gives more FPS. It gives faster boot/loading times.

Take this as an exampel; Loading Siege of Shanghai in BF4 MP on a HDD takes around 4-5 minutes but on a SSD it takes less then 20 seconds, atleast on my Corsair Force-one. But if he really doesn't care, just go for like a 1TB WD Blue as they are cheap as fuck (atleast in Sweden).

[ahmedXD]

Lol, noone said that SSDs gives more FPS. It gives faster boot/loading times.

Take this as an exampel; Loading Siege of Shanghai in BF4 MP on a HDD takes around 4-5 minutes but on a SSD it takes less then 20 seconds, atleast on my Corsair Force-one. But if he really doesn't care, just go for like a 1TB WD Blue as they are cheap as fuck (atleast in Sweden).

Dude is tight on budget I'm making his every dollar worth it, maybe he doesn't play this game.
Or if you want him to have an SSD give him one 
But thats me I won't add a lower tier part just for the sake of  SSD.

[Mark]

6th gen skylake locked i3 , i5 even i7 are overclockable by BCLK on z170 motherboard.
SSD has low life span and does nothing special but load games like gta v 10 seconds faster and loads windows faster, it wont give you any performance gains
Before i even post I'm 100% sure of what I'm posting I have built 5 pc's myself and fully knowledgeable in PC's, go ahead and ask other question.
For example the pentium G4560(60$) I recommended in the end is better than i3-4170(110$)
Its the same 2 core , 4 threads, faster single core performance.

Those i5 are locked. The multiplier is locked, stick that into your head. 100mhz more with BCLK does nothing. Only the K variants can be OCed properly so why the fuck waste cash on a z170 motherboard.
SSD have a good life span(unless you buy chinese shit because you don't want to spend cash on a good SSD), whoever told you they got a low life span must be living in another era. SSD gives you a huge gain in perfomances when the system is loaded on it (i'm not speaking about GAMING perfomance), you will usually install games on a HDD unless you got a big SSD. The HDD you added is a WD Green, a HDD which aims at consuming less energy and spins at 5400rpm, good luck loading any heavy game on it and run the OS at same time. Your knowledge is pretty poor in my honest opinion. It's not about skills in building the PC, building a PC takes time and you need to read alot of stuff if you want to do it serious.

It's 2017, Pentiums are not made for gaming or any intensive task (unless you consider gta sa an heavy game) , you are wasting cash on a build that probably has to be futureproof. Not to mention that games such as GTA V demand alot from the CPU, 2 cores and 4 threads is not futureproof, stick that into your head.

Right on the 6400 over 6500 because in overclock it will hit same 4.6ghz mark on both no noticeable difference.
However when I made the 7th gen build I choose the 7500 over 7400 I know what you mean.Windows -SSD
Apps like Photoshop, office and lets say you record stuffs -HDD.
I ran a command and edited regedit to make new apps install on HDD not SSD, apps tend to store cache and stuff and your SSD will be low on storage.
I would rather had a HDD for the sake of easines.
Althought SSD is nice but it doesn't give you even 1 fps more in games.
So its up to bruce if he would like to add SSD 40$ for 120gh  or not.
But it won't give any fps more than normal HDD

They don't overclock up to 4,6ghz, they have a turbo boost frequency up to 3,6ghz on the 6500 and 3,3ghz on the 6400.
Apps such as Photoshop and for video editing will take advantage of the SSD + HDD configuration, i've tried it myself before speaking. You don't buy a  SSD to have better fps in games, you buy it for faster loading times in EVERY scenario, unless you buy cheap shit.

[ahmedXD]

its not a debate , let bruce decide.
and if you think you know everything , then create a part list to help him out