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[IV:MP] /frisk

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on: April 12, 2017, 10:41:26 pm
Every citizen has the constitutional right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure. However, the police don't always need a warrant. In fact, under the stop and frisk exception, the police can stop you on the street and put you down for anything illegal or Reasonable suspicion which is defined by a set of factual circumstances that would lead a reasonable police officer to believe criminal activity is occurring. ( Such as Drug dealing )

I would suggest adding a /frisk command which will scan every illegal substances the civilian has. This command will help Law enforcers to confirm if the civilian was drug dealing/trafficking or not. It will increase Roleplaying. It will encourage individuels to use the storing function at houses as it will help them in not getting cought.

After applying the /frisk command at the citizen, It will automatically detect anything illegal from his inventory and report it to the cop.

This is a simple idea that I'd like to hear your opinions on it.



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Reply #1 on: April 12, 2017, 10:59:34 pm
Since you can store your weed and weapons this could a be a nice command if executed correctly. A civilian has to have an /acceptfrisk or something similair to prevent abuse and police needs to have a valid reason to frisk. It all depends if you want to keep the imaginary roleplay frisks or the real thing.



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Reply #2 on: April 12, 2017, 11:12:46 pm
I've lost approx. 2 kilos of cannabis to /dice frisk, deal with it. :lol:



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Reply #3 on: April 12, 2017, 11:20:26 pm
Since you can store your weed and weapons this could a be a nice command if executed correctly. A civilian has to have an /acceptfrisk or something similair to prevent abuse and police needs to have a valid reason to frisk. It all depends if you want to keep the imaginary roleplay frisks or the real thing.
Waiting for authorization from the other side could be abused as well because civilians will refuse to give up on getting frisked at the most times. In this case a small rule should be applied : a law enforcer is allowed to frisk only when there is reasonable suspicion. For exemple, Noticing someone next to some weed spot is kinda suspecious.



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Reply #4 on: April 12, 2017, 11:49:34 pm
A civilian has to have an /acceptfrisk or something similair to prevent abuse and police needs to have a valid reason to frisk. It all depends if you want to keep the imaginary roleplay frisks or the real thing.
true what you said, i would support id there is /acceptfrisk



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Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 12:00:30 am
Increases RP, but a simple /em do you have illegal substances ?, is enough for communication and search.



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Reply #6 on: April 13, 2017, 12:10:22 am
Increases RP, but a simple /em do you have illegal substances ?, is enough for communication and search.
And the Common answer /em i dont have any illigal staff,
and if we go back and check in the criminal /invent, we will find shot guns, m4 ak-47 also 2kg cannbis.....



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Reply #7 on: April 13, 2017, 12:18:35 am
And the Common answer /em i dont have any illigal staff,
and if we go back and check in the criminal /invent, we will find shot guns, m4 ak-47 also 2kg cannbis.....
I thought we are one step ahead of samp when it comes to RP, the job is to keep the city safe not to fancy about new commands and experiment them on other people and increase cops playtime when it comes to chase suspects( we are 32 players only at a time, each drug dealer can easily be spotted, so officers will abuse this and take advantage of it to chase drug dealers and justify it as it was unintentional and /frisk was used ).

We are light RP afterall.



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Reply #8 on: April 13, 2017, 12:38:46 am
Yea i understand u, so if ask in /em do i find illigal staff, Mr criminal wil answer that he have ?, honestly, this never happned with me, dont expect from a criminal to tell you /em yes ull find a gun and little bag of cannabis..
so /frisk maybe for only high ranked or something, in that way the criminal will be aware of the danger, and he will not hang out with illigal staffs.



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Reply #9 on: April 13, 2017, 04:58:15 am
Supported but it can be abused. If a freecop finds a gun on someone, they might suspect them for "Illegal gun trafficking" or something. I think guns should be excluded from this. Some guns, such as military-grade weapons that the LCPD have banned, should come up as illegal. If ABUSE can be prevented, I have to say, I Support it  :D


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Reply #10 on: April 13, 2017, 05:19:24 am
Cops are going to be the next super power!



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Reply #11 on: April 13, 2017, 07:39:23 am
In all the time I have been frisking civilians, even after visiting the drug spot, they always have nothing illigal! Wowdyhow!

However to be real this can be classified as powergaming and will not get implemented, how much I crave for it.

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Reply #12 on: April 13, 2017, 08:55:18 am
Well ! I agree with the abusing fact. But let's be honest, many things in the server can be abused daily by every player. Means if we will deny each suggestion that will increase roleplay-ing there won't be an Argonath Roleplay server anymore. We should always give more attention to the people who are willing to roleplay. At least that's what i think and each one has his own opinion.

As Mickey said, Making the command available for high ranked cops only will decrease abuses. Only High ranked law enforcers who understand the rules and are not willing to abuse anything, will have the right to use such command.



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Reply #13 on: April 13, 2017, 09:22:18 am
Well ! I agree with the abusing fact. But let's be honest, many things in the server can be abused daily by every player. Means if we will deny each suggestion that will increase roleplay-ing there won't be an Argonath Roleplay server anymore. We should always give more attention to the people who are willing to roleplay. At least that's what i think and each one has his own opinion.

As Mickey said, Making the command available for high ranked cops only will decrease abuses. Only High ranked law enforcers who understand the rules and are not willing to abuse anything, will have the right to use such command.
You are so right. I think that freecops should use it too, so they don't feel left out, but only the army grade weapons banned by LCPD should come up as illegal, and weed/cannabis. However, if freecop abuses it, it should be a valid /report


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Reply #14 on: April 13, 2017, 09:30:07 am
I think that freecops should use it too.
I am not with giving the opportunity to free cops to use this command. they will massively abuse it. Even the administration will get a huge amount of reports daily about abusing /frisk. And that's what we don't like to see in our server. Leaving those commands for their own users is basically important. In this case, Criminals will be aware from who to be carefull and to not play around with High ranks.



 


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