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on: June 09, 2017, 12:26:50 pm
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Reply #1 on: June 09, 2017, 03:25:11 pm
Respected Judge,

                           I have a recording of all this from the Start to the End , If the court finds that I did a Mistake in Suspecting MrMessesG , I am ready to fulfill MrMessesG's Demands.



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A compensation fee of $25,000
An apology from the Officer
A punishment carried out by the LCPD

1. I will give MrMessesG $25,000 from my personal side.
2. I will give a apology to MrMessesG.
3. I will personally Resign from the LCPD.



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Reply #2 on: June 09, 2017, 06:09:55 pm
Hello,
Dear Judge,
As i was a witness to what happened i would like to say a few words if that is possible.
Well, What i have noticed lately that, MrmessesG is cop baiting and saying offensive words twoards such players which has led him to a warn by Mr Osamad which have seen what he has been doing lately.
About the case, Lets start from the beginning:
- MrMessesG was in his vehicle the moment in which the officers were arresting that criminal, he stepped out from his vehicle and showed a badge claiming that He is a FBI agent, which is not true and which shows that he was tottaly trying to cop bait, Thats the reason of the suspection.
- "Fake FBI" reason can be counted a kinda invalid. I was trying to make a clearification that He meant Imperosanting which is the valid and the propriet reason for that situation.
- The reason of Choosing a random burger shot was that the investigation room is full and there is another investigation is going in there.
After all, What Mr Jeeveen Has done is tottaly legit.

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Reply #3 on: June 10, 2017, 04:52:16 am
Dear Court, in part 2 of the investigation, at 00.28, it is so clear that he threatened to jail me.

Now I will point out the following
In part 1, at 1.42, it is so clear that I said I was joking.

Hello,
Dear Judge,
As i was a witness to what happened i would like to say a few words if that is possible.
Well, What i have noticed lately that, MrmessesG is cop baiting and saying offensive words twoards such players which has led him to a warn by Mr Osamad which have seen what he has been doing lately.
About the case, Lets start from the beginning:
- MrMessesG was in his vehicle the moment in which the officers were arresting that criminal, he stepped out from his vehicle and showed a badge claiming that He is a FBI agent, which is not true and which shows that he was tottaly trying to cop bait, Thats the reason of the suspection.
- "Fake FBI" reason can be counted a kinda invalid. I was trying to make a clearification that He meant Imperosanting which is the valid and the propriet reason for that situation.
- The reason of Choosing a random burger shot was that the investigation room is full and there is another investigation is going in there.
After all, What Mr Jeeveen Has done is tottaly legit.


Stefanos did witness this, however it was not a copbait, Osamad warning me has nothing to do with this case, and administration does not come into this, nor do rulebreaks, which I fail to see, except for the warning.
- "Fake FBI" reason can be counted a kinda invalid.
Exactly, and he didn't suspect me for impersonating, did he? No, he suspected me for "Fake FBI".

Another point
- The reason of Choosing a random burger shot was that the investigation room is full and there is another investigation is going in there.
After all, What Mr Jeeveen Has done is tottaly legit.

He suspected me THEN investigated me. How can you not see that that isn't allowed? That is what I was told by Jeevan's superiors. Yeah, legit... sure. Also, why Burger Shot? There are other places I could have been investigated, such as at a Police Station, or another room. If I am investigated at a Burger Shot and I order food, why does the cop get so triggered?  :rofl:

Also, if a civilian legitimately claims to have been joking without knowing it was an offence, why should that result in jail? As I said above, at 1.42 of the part 1, I clearly stated I was joking, just in a shortened form.

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Reply #4 on: June 10, 2017, 07:16:05 am
Respected Judge,

                             As MrMeeses Stated above - I will try to clarify the situation.

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Dear Court, in part 2 of the investigation, at 00.28, it is so clear that he threatened to jail me.

1. I was trying to stop the suspect from going away from me and I had no intention of Jailing the Suspect at the Beginning, as the Officers were Busy in Investigating the Other Suspect.

2. You can clearly see MrMeeses Behavior throughout the Investigation process, he was like in a hurry, and in Part-2 1:37 , I asked - "Why do u need Investigation"  He was trying to Threaten me by saying "You don't want to see what happens when you threaten me to jail", and in Part-2 4:41 he again did this.

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Now I will point out the following
In part 1, at 1.42, it is so clear that I said I was joking.

I never saw a saying given clearly like above - "I was joking" , how do I know jks was called as "I was joking", I didn't know the meaning of jks until this moment.

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Exactly, and he didn't suspect me for impersonating, did he? No, he suspected me for "Fake FBI".

I know that I didn't suspect for Impersonating FBI , and it doesn't mean that - "He did some Other Crimes, i.e :- Murder, Assault, Robbery, etc.... and u can see Stefanos saying in Main Chat @ Part-1 2:07 "its called impersonating".
 
It makes nosense, I mean MrMeeses is The Security Corporate Chief and was a Applicant in the LCPD and he has more experience than me in the Argonath RPG.

He was Saying that He didn't knew that and in Part-2 5:11 he said that "you jail someone who had no clue about that being a lawbreak".

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He suspected me THEN investigated me. How can you not see that that isn't allowed? That is what I was told by Jeevan's superiors. Yeah, legit... sure.

I did this , because there were no other Officers free to Investigate him, and I was recording the Scene, so I continued the Investigation.

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Also, why Burger Shot? There are other places I could have been investigated, such as at a Police Station, or another room.

Investigation has to happen in a secured place, where no other people can Interfere, I thought Burger shot would be Good, as there will be no Disturbance in the Process, as most of the people wont come there often.

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If I am investigated at a Burger Shot and I order food, why does the cop get so triggered?  :rofl:

How can u go and order something, I mean without asking the permission of the Officer who is Investigating you. and by the way I didn't say that, Why did u buy or eat something. I was little angry because u were not trying to answer my Questions. and in Part-2 5:24 - u said in the Main Chat.

I wanted to Report you to the Admin, because you were not Complying for the Simple Questions that I was Asking and you were provoking me in the Main Chat.

Thank you your Honor.



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Reply #5 on: June 10, 2017, 08:17:56 am
He was trying to Threaten me by saying "You don't want to see what happens when you threaten me to jail"
Well, for one you threatened me first, and 2, what did you think I was gonna do? Kick your arse? As tempting as it is, I wouldn't do that. You misunderstood me, I meant that you would go to court if you threatened me. So, it is clear enough you began threatening me. This is pure bullshit you wrote.

Use logic, also how is "I never heard of jks" meant to help? If you don't know what shortened forms are, it isn't my problem. Ask what jks means before suspecting me and pulling out your gun? Can't you think before you do?

 
It makes nosense, I mean MrMeeses is The Security Corporate Chief and was a Applicant in the LCPD and he has more experience than me in the Argonath RPG.

Also, not even the most experienced players know everything. Just cause I am more experienced, thus more capable than you are, doesn't mean I know everything, I am not "the Argonath GOD". Sauron isn't Einstein either, even if he is the Argonath God. Also, stop trying to involve my non-profit business in this court case, it is irrelevant. Please, use common sense  :neutral2:
He was Saying that He didn't knew that and in Part-2 5:11 he said that "you jail someone who had no clue about that being a lawbreak".
Again, refer above.

I did this , because there were no other Officers free to Investigate him, and I was recording the Scene, so I continued the Investigation.
Have you ever heard of patience? Don't be impatient. You also could have handled the other suspect while another Officer handled my investigatiom.
Investigation has to happen in a secured place, where no other people can Interfere, I thought Burger shot would be Good, as there will be no Disturbance in the Process, as most of the people wont come there often.
So, Bohan PD, Hove Beach PD, Francis International Airport PD and all the other Police Stations weren't good enough? Use some common sense  :neutral2:

How can u go and order something, I mean without asking the permission of the Officer who is Investigating you. and by the way I didn't say that, Why did u buy or eat something. I was little angry because u were not trying to answer my Questions.
You take me to Burger Shot amd you expect me not to order food or a can of Sprunk? Technically, I never broke any rules, you also never told me I could not order without permission. Also, you aren't of any authority to prevent me from ordering food. Please use some common sense  :neutral2:



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Reply #6 on: June 10, 2017, 01:05:08 pm


Liberty City Police Department
Emerald St.
Liberty City, Algonquin

National Office of Security Enforcement
Bismarck Ave.
Liberty City, Algonquin




TO:

Courts of the State of Liberty
Frankfort Ave.
Liberty City, Algonquin




DATE: 02.11.2016
FROM: LCPD Deputy Chief / N.O.O.S.E. CIU Inspector Gregory Parker
TO: Temporary Judge James Conway



SUBJECT: Regarding the complaint against an LCPD member.



Honorable Judge,

I would like to refer to the following act(s) which the complainant has broke, and which goes against all his statements above:

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Act 4.6
Impersonating a Law Enforcer is a crime.

Act 2.5
Ignorance of law and mental disorders are not an excuse in a process of justice.

Act 4.3
A person who willfully attempts to obstruct, pervert or defeat the course of justice is guilty of obstruction to justice.

The acts mentioned above clearly state that John Meeses is guilty of his crimes, and thus all his demands do not apply and shall be dropped. IT does not matter if it is "Fake FBI" or "False FBI" or "Faking FBI" or "Impersonating FBI", as long as the reason stated has clear meaning and refers to the act he's been breaking, which is impersonating; And thus, the charges which've been placed by officer Jeevan, are correct and do not represent any mistakes.

As for the investigation done by the suspecting officer, due to the low resources during that time, and that an investigation shall not exceed an amount of time as the officers have got more duties than just investigating a criminal /which clearly broke the law and should go to jail at first place/. Waste of time is waste of the police resources, and this may lead to breach of security in the Liberty City and would give those who have the will to do terrorist acts, chance to proceed and put the city in danger. Therefore, why the officer has gone for the investigation, and it being in a burger shot due to the occupied investigation room, is totally fine and should not be a problem. As for him buying from the shop, that's totally unacceptable because: 1. He's not been given permission by the officer, and rather used it for trolling. 2. He's been cuffed, and thus has broken the rules of the server, in which someone who've been cuffed cannot move his hands freely like the magician Meeses did.

I would like to remind John Meeses that the LCPD and law enforcement in general, do no babysit the criminals. We do not "understand" your acts, but rather act with what the law states. If you've broke the law, then you'd need to pay for it and visit the prison, like any other criminal whether he's known or not.


To conclude with, I'd like the court to take further actions against Meeses for the continuous disrespectful attitude towards the LCPD and it's members, and his cases which are completely false, and rather shows a bad picture for the LCPD and Meeses himself.





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Reply #7 on: June 10, 2017, 01:21:05 pm


Liberty City Police Department
Emerald St.
Liberty City, Algonquin

National Office of Security Enforcement
Bismarck Ave.
Liberty City, Algonquin




TO:

Courts of the State of Liberty
Frankfort Ave.
Liberty City, Algonquin




DATE: 02.11.2016
FROM: LCPD Deputy Chief / N.O.O.S.E. CIU Inspector Gregory Parker
TO: Temporary Judge James Conway



SUBJECT: Regarding the complaint against an LCPD member.



Honorable Judge,

I would like to refer to the following act(s) which the complainant has broke, and which goes against all his statements above:

The acts mentioned above clearly state that John Meeses is guilty of his crimes, and thus all his demands do not apply and shall be dropped. IT does not matter if it is "Fake FBI" or "False FBI" or "Faking FBI" or "Impersonating FBI", as long as the reason stated has clear meaning and refers to the act he's been breaking, which is impersonating; And thus, the charges which've been placed by officer Jeevan, are correct and do not represent any mistakes.

As for the investigation done by the suspecting officer, due to the low resources during that time, and that an investigation shall not exceed an amount of time as the officers have got more duties than just investigating a criminal /which clearly broke the law and should go to jail at first place/. Waste of time is waste of the police resources, and this may lead to breach of security in the Liberty City and would give those who have the will to do terrorist acts, chance to proceed and put the city in danger. Therefore, why the officer has gone for the investigation, and it being in a burger shot due to the occupied investigation room, is totally fine and should not be a problem. As for him buying from the shop, that's totally unacceptable because: 1. He's not been given permission by the officer, and rather used it for trolling. 2. He's been cuffed, and thus has broken the rules of the server, in which someone who've been cuffed cannot move his hands freely like the magician Meeses did.

I would like to remind John Meeses that the LCPD and law enforcement in general, do no babysit the criminals. We do not "understand" your acts, but rather act with what the law states. If you've broke the law, then you'd need to pay for it and visit the prison, like any other criminal whether he's known or not.


To conclude with, I'd like the court to take further actions against Meeses for the continuous disrespectful attitude towards the LCPD and it's members, and his cases which are completely false, and rather shows a bad picture for the LCPD and Meeses himself.





Signed,

Gregory Parker
LCPD Deputy Chief
As I have already said, I had no idea about impersonation being an offence. These acts are law however I had no idea so I will admit to them, however the Officer threatened me and I request that the court take action over it. Also, on what authority can an Officer prevent a civilian from buying food? This is a joke.


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Reply #8 on: June 10, 2017, 01:31:19 pm
Because you're detained, and you were cuffed. How could you buy food if you're cuffed, and which dealer would actually sell food to a criminal when an officer is present? Be logical.

Also, how did Jeevan threaten you? By saying "Do you want to go to jail"? That's not a threatening, and he has the right to even take you to jail at first place.



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Reply #9 on: June 12, 2017, 03:22:53 am
Because you're detained, and you were cuffed. How could you buy food if you're cuffed, and which dealer would actually sell food to a criminal when an officer is present? Be logical.

Also, how did Jeevan threaten you? By saying "Do you want to go to jail"? That's not a threatening, and he has the right to even take you to jail at first place.
If a civilian surrenders immediately without resistance, it's their full right to request an investigation, not to go to jail. Also, if a civilian has clearly stated that they are joking, why is it a criminal offence. If the LCPD will send peole to jail for offences they had no clue about, that is severely disappointing


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Reply #10 on: June 12, 2017, 09:16:02 am
Also, if a civilian has clearly stated that they are joking, why is it a criminal offence.
What if someone burned down your house, but says "It's a prank bro" afterwards. Would it still be a criminal offence or should we let him go because it was just a joke?



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Reply #11 on: June 12, 2017, 10:28:45 am
What if someone burned down your house, but says "It's a prank bro" afterwards. Would it still be a criminal offence or should we let him go because it was just a joke?
The imitation of FBI was not a serious offence and had no impact on anyone, thus it shouldn't be but apparently is a criminal offence. If the house was burned down, they would still need to pay for the property, psychological trauma and the loss, as well as their own punishment.


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