Fair Warning

[Astaroth]

Just sayin'. HQ has had enough of everybody's shit.
As stated, anyone is more than welcome to try and see what used to be a verbal warning has turned to now

[Mark]

Just sayin'. HQ has had enough of everybody's shit.
As stated, anyone is more than welcome to try and see what used to be a verbal warning has turned to now

You may have turned into Thor now but there is always an admin that will misjudge a situation or an admin who is too soft on players because they're less than 30 on average. There is an always an HQ that has to unban a few veterans just to get a few players that will end up doing the same shit you mentioned in the first post.
The answer to this is: SAMP Roleplay is dead (there are more hackers and butthurts than rpers around any samp server) and Argonath playerbase got tired.

More punishments won't work nor being too soft with players on this community (whoever says the opposite is either blind or needs to play more). Two years ago same shit was going on and guess who put the blame on the previous HQ for that? Get ready for another HQ purge in the next 6 months if you are going to kill "his" playerbase.

IMO the few, still, interested players will come back if you give them a reason to: new features, better scripts, a better atmosphere and more groups to interact with (that is the biggest issue since the last huge update was released). I have no idea how you can make that work without scripters and less toxics around but it's the only answer i have for topics like this.

[Vitorrio]

Everyone invited to Queens for a good roleplay without any rulebreak =)

I might make a visit back to SA:MP, then!
Anyway, talking about rulebreaking, it has always been there in any server on any game that supports a multiplayer port, somehow. The bad part is the player limit of the Argonath SAMP server (200), so, it's more likely there will be a lot of rulebreaking people to be dealt with, and players (regulars or simply people willing to help) or admins can't always keep up with them and can't be everywhere at once, so, some will keep on breaking them.

Spoiler for Hidden:

For instance, the IVMP community has a low player limit (32), so, it's easier to deal with them. Because of this, the community isn't filled with too many deathmatching or rulebreaking people at once and the rest of the community can carry on.
A down side is that there aren't many roleplay scenarios going on in one single day. If there's barely one, it is mostly tied to the LCPD or weed, somehow.

I really do hope punishing those who rulebreak seriously in the manner Astaroth talked about will lower the urge to deathmatch in every gang/criminal family meeting (2 families meeting each other).

[Astaroth]

Far as I can see it, it is people with the attitude of "I will join to DM and /q"
And "Argonath is dead no more chances" are the problem.

To put it simple:
If you keep that attitude and pray for a change - it won't come.
If you improve yourself, if you promote actual roleplay and create a fun environment for yourself and the people around you, we have a very good chance to change for the better.

Now that we have made this step and put bans into use more often, we are already seeing a change and we are convinced that anyone with the attitude of the example above should be removed.

It's the simple truth and I am sorry if some of you can't accept it, but this is the change we are making.

[AK47]

Interesting.

[Mr.Lawrence]

Far as I can see it, it is people with the attitude of "I will join to DM and /q"
And "Argonath is dead no more chances" are the problem.

To put it simple:
If you keep that attitude and pray for a change - it won't come.
If you improve yourself, if you promote actual roleplay and create a fun environment for yourself and the people around you, we have a very good chance to change for the better.

Now that we have made this step and put bans into use more often, we are already seeing a change and we are convinced that anyone with the attitude of the example above should be removed.

It's the simple truth and I am sorry if some of you can't accept it, but this is the change we are making.

Its not a DM server to do that. We are here to roleplay and have fun, nothing more.

[MarceloS.]

 

[Astaroth]

I don't think we understand eachother yet:

This is not me, or the HQ asking you to improve yourselves and behave.
This is us letting you know that you will be banned without hesitation if you behave like shit.

This is not for Corleone vs. Gvardia vs. SAPD topic. This is for every player individually. You are simply being informed that you will no longer be tolerated by anyone here.

Cheers,

Astaroth

[Astaroth]

Man, have you ever heard this wisedom ''you cant expect to teach a old dog learn how to sit '' how can you expect to teach the other? haha

We will donate them to SeanC(China)

[Andeey]

Off topic post's removed, If you all want to have an argument with each other i suggest you go talk it out in PM or skype/discord, We don't want to have another topic derailed over simple issues.

[sausage]

i think problem is mindset that néed to be established like people suggest things that will aid and enhance roleplay like for example no blips or ooc ic mg pg but then say no and then now u guys want stronger role play it hard to do so hq needs to decide if strong roleplay or freeroam, there is no really in the middle because it leaning towards freeroem

((sorry for bad spelling im on phone))

[Richard.]

Off topic post's removed, If you all want to have an argument with each other i suggest you go talk it out in PM or skype/discord, We don't want to have another topic derailed over simple issues.

The issue you call simple has been going on for years, including admins & managers being part of these type of situations. It has never been an issue before until tables were turned and started backfiring on these individuals.
Again, I don't see this going no where. Specially when you personally have told me that you warned us & other groups who were doing the specific mentioned "issues" and if they're repeated, we shall get banned. Guess what? People been doing this over and over, nobody gives a shit what you or the other HQ members say by the looks of it as you guys have been away from the scene for so long and once you decided to step in, you told another admin to make the topic instead of delivering the message as the server management yourself.

Real issue here isn't Corleone, Gvardia, Soprano or Luciano.
"Wars" is what you call issue, even though they keep the server alive.
Do you even recall the last time Argonath got a new player? They don't even get past the registering stage before getting banned for silly reason full of disrespect like "bye" "fuck off", even though they are innocent.
It will be a better start and step if you guys could actually put some effort & time into gathering proofs and having collective decisions over groups and scripts, instead of these boring topics that never get any results.

[jovanca]

The rules already exist. Instead of making a forum topic to tell players you will punish people who break the rules just go ahead and do it already. I find it absurd that there was another case of blatant deathmatch in game yesterday and the outcome was 'one free pass because everyone didn't read astaroth's topic yet'.

[James]

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I'm sure that will happen more times, ohh wat topic? i din read shit yo, then he goes away free

[jovanca]

I'm sure that will happen more times, ohh wat topic? i din read shit yo, then he goes away free

Topic does not even matter. Theres players who dont use forum at all. Just start enfotcing the rules that exist already thats all.