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[Salmonella]

At the very least you are being hypocritical again. I didn't accuse you of anything or adressed you at all but i found myself in your list of people 'spreading rumors about you'. And i thought for a second we can have a civilized conversation. I forgot how salty you are

You're not that important (to my post)

[jovanca]

You're not that important (to my post)

It doesn't really matter really. The way you talk to everyone who speaks against you is just wrong. None of the people here disrespected you called you stupid or anything like that yet your whole post is pretty much lowkey provocations and personal attacks

[AK47]

It doesn't really matter really. The way you talk to everyone who speaks against you is just wrong. None of the people here disrespected you called you stupid or anything like that yet your whole post is pretty much lowkey provocations and personal attacks

Well if it is, he fits right in with the current administration of the server;

[Salmonella]

The point is that you and the others I quoted are accusing me of things I've never done. Both ingame and here. Just because you didn't directly say ''sal ordered a hacker'' doesn't disqualify me from listing you as one of those people because you 'low-key' defend those that do.

If you're offended by the word ''stupid'' and ''fuck'' I advice you get a thicker skin on the internet.

And yeah, why do you always insist on pointing out minor things in my post while a.) that isn't the point of the post and b.) others like Astaroth do the same yet you stay put. That to me is hypocritical, rather than calling a liar spreading rumours ''stupid''.

[Mark]

@Salmonella re-read my post, i clearly said i can't speak about that situation as all i know comes from a video of a hacker who loves memes, so what are you on about?
Who the hell cares about Gvardia, corleone, soprano, luciano and whatsoever paki group is still around? I'm not talking to you as one of them, i really don't get why we we must identify ourselves on a side in order to discuss.
You have been community banned before, reasons were clear and i think you shouldn't speak about rules at all considering your history. HQ doesn't need you tell them what to do either even if it's the shittiest we ever had.

You are not in the position to call the community out in this situation and pretend those who know your previous community bans not to react.

[Stivi]

So please, excuse me, Mark, IV:MP admin super2ho that I have never met, Jovanca, Sarmed, Lawrence, Stivi, and other players that also happen to be strongly tied to Gvardia, get your facts straight before you start spewing rumours your friends have made up.

I think people are rather accusing Sal of being aware of this and doing nothing about it, not helping them hack the server. Right?

It was just a personal opinion on the matter, but it still remains off topic.

As strongly tied to Gvardia I am, I didn't claim to have any fact. In fact, I was on your side this time, but sure, I'll take being a Gvardia as a valid argument to prove me wrong.

The point is that you and the others I quoted are accusing me of things I've never done. Both ingame and here. Just because you didn't directly say ''sal ordered a hacker'' doesn't disqualify me from listing you as one of those people because you 'low-key' defend those that do.

If you're offended by the word ''stupid'' and ''fuck'' I advice you get a thicker skin on the internet.

Did I?

[Rei]

@Salmonella
You have been community banned before, reasons were clear and i think you shouldn't speak about rules at all considering your history.

[Mark]

Keep going with non constructive posts, we will have more material to forum mute you.

[Salmonella]

@Salmonella re-read my post, i clearly said i can't speak about that situation as all i know comes from a video of a hacker who loves memes, so what are you on about?
Who the hell cares about Gvardia, corleone, soprano, luciano and whatsoever paki group is still around? I'm not talking to you as one of them, i really don't get why we we must identify ourselves on a side in order to discuss.
You have been community banned before, reasons were clear and i think you shouldn't speak about rules at all considering your history. HQ doesn't need you tell them what to do either even if it's the shittiest we ever had.

You are not in the position to call the community out in this situation and pretend those who know your previous community bans not to react.

You're calling me a hypocrite and I assumed you sang your tune in the key others did it in, because this topic has turned into a ''Salmonella is with them, why take him seriously!?'' topic. Identifying with one of those groups makes more sense than to call someone out on having been community banned over four years ago. What's up with that? Brian used to be a banevader. Janek used to be a banevader. I even remember banning Andeey back in the day. Why do you have to bring up that I have been community banned? Why not bring up that I was also a SA:MP Admin for four years in a row?

I am in as much as a position to call the community out as anyone. If anything I am more qualified to do so, given my history on both sides of the spectrum, my experience and my current positions in this community. But yeah, I guess being banned in 2013 for being involved in photoshopping a penis superimposed on another player's face outweighs all that. As for the other community ban, that one was invalid from what I've gathered after talking to both Teddy (whom issued the ban) and the person I supposedly ''harrassed'' (Link9rly) about it.

But yeah, I guess ''reasons are all clear'' to Mark. I don't even know who you are and I have never talked to you about my bans, so maybe you are the one that should do some reading.

As strongly tied to Gvardia I am, I didn't claim to have any fact. In fact, I was on your side this time, but sure, I'll take being a Gvardia as a valid argument to prove me wrong.

Did I?

Not that I know of. I was talking to Jovanca whom I've seen say things like that ingame. You were hardly on my side. You were rephrasing those accusing me of things I'd never done to put them in a better light. Pointing out that all of you are on Gvardia's side to me is very relevant because that shows the motives you guys have, because apparently I am ''Gvardia hater #1''. 

[Stivi]

Not that I know of. I was talking to Jovanca whom I've seen say things like that ingame. You were hardly on my side. You were rephrasing those accusing me of things I'd never done to put them in a better light. Pointing out that all of you are on Gvardia's side to me is very relevant because that shows the motives you guys have, because apparently I am ''Gvardia hater #1''. 

I would have posted to back my post up, but since I didn't - I don't have any. You mentioned my name, quoted my post, that doesn't look like you were talking to Jovanca. Yes, I rephrased what I thought others were saying, also denying that you were involved in the hacking while doing so. Being part of a discord with literally half the player base of SA-MP doesn't make you a hacker and that was my opinion as well. Is that what you're trying to say? And even if I thought so I still didn't say anything that would accuse you, or back those accusing you right now.

Don't drag Gvardia in this at all, it really is not an argument.

[Mark]

@Salmonella I'm not with gvardia and honestly i don't give a crap about picking a side, i stopped doing that since long now. So since i'm not on any side there is no need to point that out.
We've talked in past and i've seen you shitting and trolling during last year just like everyone else on "your" side, so pardon me if i don't want to see you trying to teach a moral to others. It's my opinion that you are not a valid example for other players of this community and in part it is true that someone from HQ should show up but as i said previously, that guy is not you.

[Rei]

Keep going with non constructive posts, we will have more material to forum mute you.

Judging someone from his past is constructive to you? shot me with a bow please.

[jovanca]

The point is that you and the others I quoted are accusing me of things I've never done. Both ingame and here. Just because you didn't directly say ''sal ordered a hacker'' doesn't disqualify me from listing you as one of those people because you 'low-key' defend those that do.

If you're offended by the word ''stupid'' and ''fuck'' I advice you get a thicker skin on the internet.

And yeah, why do you always insist on pointing out minor things in my post while a.) that isn't the point of the post and b.) others like Astaroth do the same yet you stay put. That to me is hypocritical, rather than calling a liar spreading rumours ''stupid''.

I didn't defend anyone. Just pointed out that 'luciano hacking spree' has nothing to do with anything we're discussing on this topic.

Being disrespectful when talking to everyone who disagrees with you is not a minor thing.

Stay put? Just like when John and idk who else brought up bans in that topic the other day and as soon as Djole replied to it you told him to quit derailing the topic? See what i mean by 'hypocrite'?

You got the wrong idea of why i called you a hypocrite. It's rather because you said we should keep prejudice out of this community but still had to point out that the players calling you out are affiliated with Gvardia.

I don't get offended by words stupid and fuck but since this is supposed to be a community and all i think there's no need for such language. But i guess you don't think the same way, and that makes you a stupid fuck.

[Salmonella]

I would have posted to back my post up, but since I didn't - I don't have any. You mentioned my name, quoted my post, that doesn't look like you were talking to Jovanca. Yes, I rephrased what I thought others were saying, also denying that you were involved in the hacking while doing so. Being part of a discord with literally half the player base of SA-MP doesn't make you a hacker and that was my opinion as well. Is that what you're trying to say? And even if I thought so I still didn't say anything that would accuse you, or back those accusing you right now.

Don't drag Gvardia in this at all, it really is not an argument.

Glad to hear that you can use logic and reasoning. Your posts made it look as if you were defending those ganging up on me, which is why I included you. Given that everyone that appeared to be attacking me was related to Gvardia, I pointed that out too because that to me is a comical coincidence.

@Salmonella I'm not with gvardia and honestly i don't give a crap about picking a side, i stopped doing that since long now. So since i'm not on any side there is no need to point that out.
We've talked in past and i've seen you shitting and trolling during last year just like everyone else on "your" side, so pardon me if i don't want to see you trying to teach a moral to others. It's my opinion that you are not a valid example for other players of this community and in part it is true that someone from HQ should show up but as i said previously, that guy is not you.

Okay, that is your opinion and as much as I disagree, I can respect that. However, listing a community ban from 2013 that you don't know jack-shit about doesn't make sense at all. If you feel like I've been shitting and trolling recently, then I get your stance, as much as I know I have done no such thing to great extents.

I didn't defend anyone. Just pointed out that 'luciano hacking spree' has nothing to do with anything we're discussing on this topic.

Being disrespectful when talking to everyone who disagrees with you is not a minor thing.

Stay put? Just like when John and idk who else brought up bans in that topic the other day and as soon as Djole replied to it you told him to quit derailing the topic? See what i mean by 'hypocrite'?

You got the wrong idea of why i called you a hypocrite. It's rather because you said we should keep prejudice out of this community but still had to point out that the players calling you out are affiliated with Gvardia.

I don't get offended by words stupid and fuck but since this is supposed to be a community and all i think there's no need for such language. But i guess you don't think the same way, and that makes you a stupid fuck.

You fail to make sense and you're actually insulting me now, while I haven't insulted anyone lol

[jovanca]

You fail to make sense and you're actually insulting me now, while I haven't insulted anyone lol

Nah you just failed to understand.

If you're offended by the word ''stupid'' and ''fuck'' I advice you get a thicker skin on the internet.