[IV:MP] C&C Suggestion

[JackDockz]

Please get your facts straight before throwing them into the outside world, big boy.

Lol but true

[Mihail Junkovich]

Now when I think of it, I am pretty sure new players would opt to car-killing suspects in order to "get them", but in that case, current scripts kick in.. suspect doesn't get a penalty if he gets carkilled. But maybe it could be completely cut out to something we have currently, that is.. passport = access to police duty?

One more thing came to my mind today.. maybe the newcomers could pass some small entry training with dark-blues. Sort of just most basic stuff. Behave in traffic this and that, speed limits, dont shoot people, dont ram.. that's all

And then they could have access to remove them from duty if they are neglecting the rules/training they passed with the police

Reminder, this is just for newcomers aka =/= no passport

[Joey]

We alrdy have allow duty for that.

[Mihail Junkovich]

The initial suggestion was duty for everyone, read joey read!

[Joey]

Reminder, this is just for newcomers aka =/= no passport

[Steven S.]

Good riddance for the people that have that mentality. I'd say quality above quantity.

Are all of your featured vehicles represented solely by Buffalo? :P

The only thing they might apply for is that "solely" buffalo and some shooting trainings.

Please take a look at our application boards. We do have the quality over quantity mentality. Otherwise we would have accepted more than 7 cadets in the past 9 months.

I know paprika, I understood we set rules etcetera etcetera... But, the thing is... We don't see it useful, that's it.
We already have a freecop rank who has to pass a trainings in order to avoid any rulebreak, and we already have a staff list on LCPD, so I don't see it useful having more ranks as freecops when freecops are also criminals (as you mentioned they cannot be suspected more than three times).
That's our opinion.   

[James Conway]

Yes, then let's remove LCPD?

Please take a look at our application boards. We do have the quality over quantity mentality. Otherwise we would have accepted more than 7 cadets in the past 9 months.

I never said you didn't hire quality members, I said it'd be good riddance and better for the quality if the people left that only wanted the rights, the buffalos and all that  privileged shit. But if you use the argument that LCPD will be nothing without it's buffalos and whatnot, then you're just selling LCPD. You don't need to fill up ranks if you don't have the right people, you don't need 10 members if they are only in it for the priveleges.

[JackDockz]

Sorry mihail

[Steven S.]

Yes, then let's remove LCPD?

It's so funny to see how management script supports an official recognized organisation.
Since 2014/2015 we had a considerable loss of scripts and it's fun seeing in 2017 us fighting for a darkblue color which takes not even a line in scripting. lmao.
And yes, that quotes was meant "Remove us everything", you basically are keeping a rank system with nothing for them. At this point I don't see why would we need /promotelcpd.
As Twenty said we perform a full background check on every player who decides to apply for LCPD. And if it's not enough the player goes through an academy which contains several trainings and examinations. Actually we host many events like organised patrols, checkpoints, speed traps... And if you find "funny" my sarcastic quote, then I find quite funny  being judged by someone who should approve warrants awaiting since  February, to atleast "Roleplay" and show our quality.
And yes, I remember old times, players always wanted to get rewarded for their commitment, they used to give a lot from all the aspects.
And guess what? Also in real life you get rewards for being committed in police. I don't understand why we can't have such system, here, on IV:MP, like SA:MP (don't start saying we are two different server bla bla, because we both have two police systems with the same goal) has.
I hereby remind you that time has changed like people's mentalities and the thingy of "getting rewarded" increased of a substantial piece. But let's not go off topic, we were talking about this system. I'm ok with the current one.

[James Conway]

Now we're getting somewhere  ! The only reason why I was moaning about it, is because you make it sound like you need the extra's to make LCPD successfull, that you can only get new members that way. Which I'm highly against it.

And if you find "funny" my sarcastic quote, then I find quite funny  being judged by someone who should approve warrants awaiting since  February, to atleast "Roleplay" and show our quality.

Ouch, I'm not sure which warrants those are, but if you don't get a response you are free to send them every hour just to spam them. Also if there is a lack of response you can, with my permission right now, execute those warrants . I'm happy you spewed your troubles in the open. Scriptwise I cannot do alot for you since that's where Armelin needs to come in, but everything else, send me a PM or a Skype message and we'll get to it .

I hereby remind you that time has changed like people's mentalities and the thingy of "getting rewarded" increased of a substantial piece. But let's not go off topic, we were talking about this system. I'm ok with the current one.

It's fine to be rewarded, I only had problems with recruiting members just so they can get buffalo's and whatnot.

What I mostly like about Mihails suggestions is that they focus on the roleplay side of things, and not so much on the greedy side of things. Rewards are fine for me though, just not the materializing part of it. "I will join the LCPD because... I get more shit", it should be "I will join the LCPD because... it's a great group where I can roleplay with others and have a good time etc etc".

Hit me up with the non-script problems I can help with 

[Steven S.]

It's fine to be rewarded, I only had problems with recruiting members just so they can get buffalo's and whatnot.

We are saying the same things. All the poem above was for committed members who showed themselves roleplaying properly and doing a great job. The point I wanted you to know is: We remove darkblue, we remove buffalos (I know it's a vehicle only, but might be a sign of "step forward" and an encouragement to do the same of above to rank up)... How do we reward our fellow members?
As I wrote on my second post on this topic:

I actually think like you, but  people think on this way, "the features that a group has".

So unfortunately, god didn't give us the power to change people's mentality. But if we show them, a hardworker officer is rewarded for his innovative roleplay, for his spectacular skills (we encourage them on trainings), for a kind behavior then they will get tempt to apply.

I want you to note that we don't want people to apply to get a candy. We want people who apply and hardwork to get a candy.

[Mihail Junkovich]

What I do not understand is if you are denying whole suggestion just because of Buffalos and Darkblue thing? Both of which can be disregarded.. or modified
For example, instead of dark-blue the so called "regular" blue that differs from the current Freecop light-blue one

And as far as I know, LCPD currently has some goodies that are already separating it from the regulars

- Upper ranks can cancel suspects as well as suspect police
- Access to NOOSE
- Leadership in most of the roleplay scenes
- Something more that I won't reveal :coughs:

Then NOOSE on its own has some goodies too.. like /equip ID, 7 or 8 new vehicles, 2 Helicopters, new skins, new weapons, new fun shizzle at the forum
And since you need to be in the LCPD to get to the NOOSE, why isn't that counted towards the whole pool of "For your hard work we can offer you this" ? :|

I even remember when we first begged and then had Buffalo added, just 1.
It wasn't even used because Merit was more agile than it and I personally completely disregarded it and kept using ugly duckling :P

[Steven S.]

And since you need to be in the LCPD to get to the NOOSE

That's where you are wrong.

[Mihail Junkovich]

As far as I remember, you have changed that recently from.. advised to a must?

Did ya change that back? What happened kek

[Younes]

Good suggestions.. read over it rapidly as I'm being lazy to read all, to be honest.

I agree on it but instead: Make LCPD Freecops under LCPD's surveillance (can copban for breaking the law (rp), order in situations..etc). So LCPD Freecop is the lowest rank of LCPD, and is under surveillance of LCPD and cannot be a criminal. Those who like being freecops and like to advance and be good players, they can apply for LCPD.