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Removal of $500 penalty for LCPD / FBI / NOOSE

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Reply #15 on: September 06, 2017, 02:11:35 pm
SUPPORTEED!

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Reply #16 on: September 06, 2017, 02:33:38 pm
this will be usefull.
i totally agree  :gand:



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Reply #17 on: September 06, 2017, 04:37:23 pm
Why do you have to kill anyone in a shooting training?

2 medics 2ems vehciles parked in jail fenced yard and 6 armed mobsters, deaths happened so rare and they did happen most  the time when one side trolled another and didn't stop on stop signal or one side didnt say stop.
So for a disciplined group shooting traning required guns/healing option of some sorts/communication and discipline. We did train like we were playing paintball, you hit 1/3, 1/4hp you use up arrow to spam already prepared stop/give up signal, you then heal up refill ammo and rinse and repeat.

Ranked officers/agents are elite if they missjudge a situation and kill a fellow law enforcer they deserve the fine.

Idea not supported.

Healing up is a possibility. However we always train at the abandoned house at Colony Island, with no resources nearby for a /heal. It is much easier to set your spawn point and just shoot untill someone gets killed. Not every person knows the weakspot and it is a pain in the ass to find it and to heal everytime. If we do that it can count up like 5 times healing, the same money you use to get fined.

- If you dont want the 500$ penalty >> easy off duty and train.

- Remove it for TRU/ARPD/FBI and keep it for freecops? >> thats not fair at all.

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- Off duty and train? How does that work? No guns to train with, no real footage and no real training sessions. We can't even drive police cars then + we need to /cs. = Useless

- As said above, it can be removed for freecops too, however I like the idea of having a command to disable it. As long as something is done about it and its not alot of work for Armelin.

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Reply #18 on: September 06, 2017, 05:12:36 pm
Supported but mostly if used as a command because it can lead to reckless freecops.



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Reply #19 on: September 06, 2017, 05:27:14 pm
Healing up is a possibility. However we always train at the abandoned house at Colony Island, with no resources nearby for a /heal. It is much easier to set your spawn point and just shoot untill someone gets killed. Not every person knows the weakspot and it is a pain in the ass to find it and to heal everytime. If we do that it can count up like 5 times healing, the same money you use to get fined.

Not necessarily, EMS requested a way to prove they got what it  takes to be a official group, why not link up and talk about money % refund to LCPD, as for vehicle spawns i'm sure the government can set a EMS vehicle wherever the LCPD requests it.

Also 5x lower per a "death" seems like a improvement already.


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Reply #20 on: September 06, 2017, 05:32:09 pm
Why keep the fine for freecops too? Since they get training now, it should be fine.

in foot chases the butthurt ones will take it as a chance to shoot each other. then they will moan saying "he was in front of me"



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Reply #21 on: September 06, 2017, 05:39:25 pm
UNSUPPORTED
If cops dunno how to drive/shoot , get the heck off duty



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Reply #22 on: September 06, 2017, 06:04:24 pm
UNSUPPORTED
If cops dunno how to drive/shoot , get the heck off duty
What?



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Reply #23 on: September 06, 2017, 06:06:33 pm
I believe training was done before too all these years, since back then this wasn't an issue why it has to be now? Also ranked members get salaries now, so you can just add the refund if you want instead of removing the penalty. Cops are already killing other cops before they kill the suspect, this will just increase that.
 



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Reply #24 on: September 06, 2017, 06:18:12 pm
UNSUPPORTED
If cops dunno how to drive/shoot , get the heck off duty

Please go and read the first post again before you comment something useless, thanks.

I believe training was done before too all these years, since back then this wasn't an issue why it has to be now? Also ranked members get salaries now, so you can just add the refund if you want instead of removing the penalty. Cops are already killing other cops before they kill the suspect, this will just increase that.
 

I believe there was no penalty before neither. The salarys are there for a reward of their work, not to pay trainings with.

Not necessarily, EMS requested a way to prove they got what it  takes to be a official group, why not link up and talk about money % refund to LCPD, as for vehicle spawns i'm sure the government can set a EMS vehicle wherever the LCPD requests it.

Also 5x lower per a "death" seems like a improvement already.

EMS currently exists of 5 members, 3 of them being a member of a law enforcement agency. Good luck finding a timing when the other 2 members are online, including a trainer and a cadet, all available on the same time.



As said, this is all just to improve our experience / trainings. I do believe that if you are against this idea it is equal as seeing the LCPD members getting bankrupt / less experienced.

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Reply #25 on: September 06, 2017, 06:50:50 pm
Giving some input from VC:MP point of view here:

Why would you want to kill someone during shooting training? We have a script here that allows cops to restock body armor in an enforcer, so enforcer is always present during shooting trainings. Officers only shoot each other till their armor goes down, then restock and continue training. I expect IV:MP also has something similar. If not, just use EMS. Killing people in trainings is considered against the rules in most Argonath branches.

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Reply #26 on: September 06, 2017, 07:01:04 pm
Giving some input from VC:MP point of view here:

Why would you want to kill someone during shooting training? We have a script here that allows cops to restock body armor in an enforcer, so enforcer is always present during shooting trainings. Officers only shoot each other till their armor goes down, then restock and continue training. I expect IV:MP also has something similar. If not, just use EMS. Killing people in trainings is considered against the rules in most Argonath branches.

VC:MP and IV:MP are different servers with different scripts. We for one do not have any body armor in total, and noone can see your health neither. I believe in SA:MP and VC:MP you are able to see each others health. This means you can see whenever you have to stop and when not. We do not have such things.

Say for example a cadet has to find the 'special' spot (yes, we have just one spot you can hit in IV:MP) but cannot find it, they should keep trying untill it gets hit. Makes you loose -10 health. Not a good arguement for the idea, true.

However, we came to training lag shooting now. How should a cadet know that he hit the instructor when he is running? You cannot see how much health he has left..

As said, you cannot compare IV:MP to VC:MP.

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Reply #27 on: September 07, 2017, 12:43:57 am
Please go and read the first post again before you comment something useless, thanks.
I'm talking in general , you want to remove it at all not only at training :)



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Reply #28 on: September 07, 2017, 07:19:20 am
I'm talking in general , you want to remove it at all not only at training :)

Whatever works for the HQ, if a temporary disable works then we are pleased to see that. Watch your assumptions ;)

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Reply #29 on: September 07, 2017, 07:23:11 am
I support this suggestion cause it is very annoying if we're on a training and have to lose $500 or even more..

but there's one thing to consider, if that $500 fee is removed then freecops can kill anyone without losing anything which makes it an advantage for them to not get suspected like civilian do.

Nothing, or nothing you can see..


 


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