Jobs Analysis and Suggestions

[Alex00747]

Dang, Well said ser!

There's an issue which came up to my mind..

If this gets accepted and requires reset of players' profiles (as in new RS6), as it launchs a totally new system.. would we as players agree or disagree to this?

Yeah, will be unfair to people who made lots :,)
If they don't mind, all'd be fine!

[Subhan]

Thumbs up for the fishing job.

[Antonio.]

Once a player gets shot rapidly, they no longer instantly die, but can choose death and lose all their weapons + some money and respawn at a hospital OR choose to stay alive upto a maximum period of 5 minutes and be cured by a medic and retain their weapons. A medic will be able to heal on foot, but only 10%, in ambulance upto 40% and in hospital till 100%.

And then you will have never ending shootouts in which players "return" and medics getting deathmatched for healing someone's enemy.

If you are a part of an accident you can no longer just ignore and drive away, at times you'd get a message depending on the impact :
You are too injured to drive, EMS have been informed. or
Too injured to run, please contact an EMS

If players are not willing to roleplay car accidents, then this will just make people moan about how they can't be annoyed to always roleplay a car accident as Argonath isn't a strict RP server. The idea is good when you look at it from an RP perspective, but not really suitable for Argonath in my opinion.

Bonus for treating government officials, which includes not only police officers and firemen but also CMB officials and Court members.

Not supported.

Just get rid of this one already, it did not work in RS4 its not working now even with Uber script implemented. There should be self driving buses instead which take you from one part of the city to another(Philip was working on this). Those who wish to roleplay this will still be able to roleplay it, and charge passengers on prepaid basis before the ride begins or after. If the person declines to pay, the cab company / driver can simply sue the person in Argonath court.

As an addition, there can also be self-driving trains which takes you from one city to another. The self driving buses can be easily implemented in a small town like Montogomery / Palomino creek as pilot project.

Remove it if you want, though there is no need for it. But what are cops supposed to do when a suspect takes a bus or someone in mid-shootout takes it? Have the ability to explode the bus with the NPC driver in it? If yes, then this will be a problem.

Everything else seems okay, but still could need some adjustments.

[Hammer_]

Same would happen like it happens in RS4 people left Argonath for money because ththey lost and weren’t mature enough to earn it back again.

[MarceloS.]

Sounds good.

[Matt Murdock]

First of all, I am glad someone did take some time to try to find some problems with the idea and discuss them, so we can perfect it further. So, I thank both of you.

There's an issue which came up to my mind..

If this gets accepted and requires reset of players' profiles (as in new RS6), as it launchs a totally new system.. would we as players agree or disagree to this?

It would not require a reset as far as I am aware. As the suggestions are to fix what's broken (aka legal jobs other than trucking) , and make them a solid career choice. It does not require the introduction of a completely new game mode and such. Moreover, RS5 reset was necessary due to RS4 scripts going laggy. It had to be written from scratch.

The only reset needed will be at groups level, aka ARFD/SAFD and EMS. A complete restructure of those groups will be required as current members in those are missing since well over a year.

And then you will have never ending shootouts in which players "return" and medics getting deathmatched for healing someone's enemy.

Healing during shootouts is already disallowed. It will not be a never-ending shootout, as once the bleeding out period passes (which is upto discussion and adjustments) the person will indeed die, and respawn at hospital. The person will not be able to move and be frozen during bleeding out phase. let me explain in a more realistic scenario :

War between "Scarface" and "Godfather" families, 10 people each side. Say even if they are evenly matched in skills, at the end there will be a last man standing, and at least one on the ground (last one to die) , the last man standing can easily prevent the last one on the ground from being healed by a medic for the next 3 mins (or shoot him down again as even if healed he'll be healed only to 10% without ambulance, if there's an ambulance the medic can help him escape). Typically a shootout lasts longer than 3 mins.

If players are not willing to roleplay car accidents, then this will just make people moan about how they can't be annoyed to always roleplay a car accident as Argonath isn't a strict RP server. The idea is good when you look at it from an RP perspective, but not really suitable for Argonath in my opinion.

Its not a forced thing, neither will every accident end up in you ending up injured. But if a player slams a car against a tree at speeds over 150 it must have some repercussions right? Instead of only car losing 200-300 hp player will lose some hp as well as end up injured and require assistance in some cases.

Not supported.

They already earn $500 bonus for treatening Firemen and PD officials, but alright

Remove it if you want, though there is no need for it. But what are cops supposed to do when a suspect takes a bus or someone in mid-shootout takes it? Have the ability to explode the bus with the NPC driver in it? If yes, then this will be a problem.

It should not explode, in a real case scenario officers would not shoot down a bus full of passengers just to stop one robber. The bus would wait on stop for a while where the suspect can be shot down. You will not be able to board or deboard a moving bus. Its basically the same thing as trains.

If it is such a big problem, we can also implement "You cannot board a bus as a suspect" message.

Everything else seems okay, but still could need some adjustments.

Open to suggestions. 

[Pete]

500$ nah we get 200$ sadly

[Shorty.]

Let me tell you something, Jobs are not balanced well on this server, hence why most of players prefer criminal life, cuz it's profitable..



I'll make this very simple, and might even start something new on this server.. MAYORS should fund the governmental agencies in their cities, Like PD, FD, Driving schools, CMB, FBI, SWAT  Medics ....etc so they get paid monthly $50k-$150k. or something, drug system should remain the same, taxi job should be based on companies, a player create a taxi company, and pay his employees monthly, BUT there should be income for the company, that's how we can balance the server.

^^ This is very creative, trucking should be strict more, cops should pull over truckers to check their cargo..etc and they should rent roadtrains or such trucks instead of using state ones. 

Simply open a trucking company, let the trucker rent the truck for $5k or $10k and simply he can earn $30k-$50k in few minutes/hours, to balance the server we need such mentality.

[Matt Murdock]

Let me tell you something, Jobs are not balanced well on this server, hence why most of players prefer criminal life, cuz it's profitable..



I'll make this very simple, and might even start something new on this server.. MAYORS should fund the governmental agencies in their cities, Like PD, FD, Driving schools, CMB, FBI, SWAT  Medics ....etc so they get paid monthly $50k-$150k. or something, drug system should remain the same, taxi job should be based on companies, a player create a taxi company, and pay his employees monthly, BUT there should be income for the company, that's how we can balance the server.

^^ This is very creative, trucking should be strict more, cops should pull over truckers to check their cargo..etc and they should rent roadtrains or such trucks instead of using state ones. 

Simply open a trucking company, let the trucker rent the truck for $5k or $10k and simply he can earn $30k-$50k in few minutes/hours, to balance the server we need such mentality.

There are no mayors. 

And if player creates taxi company and pays its employees where will the income come from? lol

Why would anyone rent a roadtrain for $10k/hour, when they can easily make $50k/hour and purchase their own in 2 hours of work+get the 25% bonus?

[Shorty.]

There are no mayors. 

And if player creates taxi company and pays its employees where will the income come from? lol

Why would anyone rent a roadtrain for $10k/hour, when they can easily make $50k/hour and purchase their own in 2 hours of work+get the 25% bonus?

The income will be from renting buddy.

Exactly, 10k ? it's nothing right? anyone can afford 10k, state vehicles should only be used by new players, others can rent/buy vehicles.

When someone rent roadtrain for 10k for 1 hour, he can easily make 50k, and the owner of the roadtrain is making profit, that's how the profit will come.


About taxis, it's a poor job anyways, but renting the taxi for 5k, with the removal of state cars will make it alive, and the driver can reach 5-10k with tips, it's cool to rp as a taxi driver.

If the state vehicles ONLY spawned for new players, i'd be the first one to open a taxi company, and i'll be giving monthly payments.

[Matt Murdock]

The income will be from renting buddy.

Exactly, 10k ? it's nothing right? anyone can afford 10k, state vehicles should only be used by new players, others can rent/buy vehicles.

When someone rent roadtrain for 10k for 1 hour, he can easily make 50k, and the owner of the roadtrain is making profit, that's how the profit will come.


About taxis, it's a poor job anyways, but renting the taxi for 5k, with the removal of state cars will make it alive, and the driver can reach 5-10k with tips, it's cool to rp as a taxi driver.

If the state vehicles ONLY spawned for new players, i'd be the first one to open a taxi company, and i'll be giving monthly payments.

You mixed the two. So I'll explain them a little bit better.

Exactly, 10k ? it's nothing right? anyone can afford 10k, state vehicles should only be used by new players, others can rent/buy vehicles.

When someone rent roadtrain for 10k for 1 hour, he can easily make 50k, and the owner of the roadtrain is making profit, that's how the profit will come.

Why would you take a roadtrain on rent to do trucking job, when you can purchase your own at $110k which you can earn from 2 hours of trucking? Then why pay the $10k rent?

About taxis, it's a poor job anyways, but renting the taxi for 5k, with the removal of state cars will make it alive, and the driver can reach 5-10k with tips, it's cool to rp as a taxi driver.

If the state vehicles ONLY spawned for new players, i'd be the first one to open a taxi company, and i'll be giving monthly payments.

I agree, but state vehicles would never be removed. HQ and I think even Gandalf himself has already confirmed that. 

Nice idea tho, but you are right, Taxi job can only work if there were no State vehicles for regulars.

[CrUpt3d_$oUL]

instead of removing them, limit the permissions to only newcomers like who dont have passport.

[Bennzy]

Little bit complicated, but supported.

[Palat]

Idea would be good if people were to RP.

[Cizzi]

Looks good.