Some suggestion from Vik. :D

[Macy_Ema]

I took all this from chatlog:

-we're done from mafia wars, now sapd vs criminals. -and dm scenes are happening daily.

-now days, no one is able to be/act useful to create smth like a cool family or bizz.
-(Kris says that in chat due what did Vik. says): Ya, SAPD killed server
-(Vik replies): No Kris. -I don't blame SAPD. -In fact i find it good to see cops powerful af. -But, they should RP more than hunting.

-remove the free cop ranks, and improve from the SAPD requirements.

-Remove the mashed potatoes and healing items so we can see medics online.

-Make state vehicles only ABLE TO BE USED by new players.

-other players should rent vehicles or call taxi

-mayors should fund the public and legal departments

-farmers should farm items for restaurants to be added in their price lists. -i can sell mashed potatoes at my cluck n bell.

-remove ammunations return the crafting, higher the weapons parts prices.

-create weapon licenses script.

-More hard the scripts are, more cool it'll be

-return the horse betting.

Note: Token from Chatlog not my own create

[Volcom]

Heavily supported

[Bennzy]

Supported if it will be added.

[KJ_deactivated]

Why this all happens?

• Guy drives at 110 km/h in town in front of City hall Los Santos. What happens next? He got pulled over and a conversation starts. After asking license to make fine - he runs away or even worse he comes out and opens fire on the officer, later cries in chat that he got killed without reason. But wait, where started this all? -> the ticket for speeding. Let's be honest, you guys earn good money for illegal things or official jobs,  is there really too hard to pay 150 for speeding? Of course no, better let's start a war and finish with DM.
• Nowadays in Argonath main thing to do is grow weed, is this correct? No f*cking,  no! We forgot that old Argo where we really played Roleplay, but now first thing to do on a server is growing weed or shooting random guys buy acing "war". I heard a just best quote from "You guys, forgot how to imagine situations, you know how to click mouse and shoot. You forgot what is Roleplay."

About SAPD. It's totally lost. Guys who are leading positions, they don't have time teach new cadets. Thank you, John, that you got time to teach me. Yes, I'm not the best officer in SAPD, I'm learning from fouls, but If I hear that one of our teammates and joining to criminal side and opens fire to our other officers, like acting as criminal, I don't have the motivation to go up by carrier stairs. That's that main problem I see in SAPD, we don't have good leading staff who would bring to new recruits, to change their mind for serving as the officer not like Call of Duty in Los Santos.

Conclusion.  While we will think that the main job in Argo is growing weed in hills and while we will think that cops are minded to kill you and take you to jail, we will have Argonath DM.

[Jairo.]

Why this all happens?

• Guy drives at 110 km/h in town in front of City hall Los Santos. What happens next? He got pulled over and a conversation starts. After asking license to make fine - he runs away or even worse he comes out and opens fire on the officer, later cries in chat that he got killed without reason. But wait, where started this all? -> the ticket for speeding. Let's be honest, you guys earn good money for illegal things or official jobs,  is there really too hard to pay 150 for speeding? Of course no, better let's start a war and finish with DM.
• Nowadays in Argonath main thing to do is grow weed, is this correct? No f*cking,  no! We forgot that old Argo where we really played Roleplay, but now first thing to do on a server is growing weed or shooting random guys buy acing "war". I heard a just best quote from "You guys, forgot how to imagine situations, you know how to click mouse and shoot. You forgot what is Roleplay."

About SAPD. It's totally lost. Guys who are leading positions, they don't have time teach new cadets. Thank you, John, that you got time to teach me. Yes, I'm not the best officer in SAPD, I'm learning from fouls, but If I hear that one of our teammates and joining to criminal side and opens fire to our other officers, like acting as criminal, I don't have the motivation to go up by carrier stairs. That's that main problem I see in SAPD, we don't have good leading staff who would bring to new recruits, to change their mind for serving as the officer not like Call of Duty in Los Santos.

Conclusion.  While we will think that the main job in Argo is growing weed in hills and while we will think that cops are minded to kill you and take you to jail, we will have Argonath DM.

You are talking about things you don't know a percent about, grow weed or any ilegal stuff is a way to you earn money as being police you know that police nowadays don't even roleplay and shoot randomly so don't blame the illegal players about this. They make weed, meth, heroin and they fairly know how to roleplay besides all of that illegal stuff but this isn't just about growing weed its about having fun while playing and roleplaying. You are one of the cops that randomly pull over people maybe because you're drunk or you are just hunting a expicific player.

"We forgot that old Argo where we really played Roleplay, but now first thing to do on a server is growing weed or shooting random guys buy acing war. I heard a just best quote from You guys, forgot how to imagine situations, you know how to click mouse and shoot. You forgot what is Roleplay.

Old argo?
What about it? Wasn't it the same? grow weed make heroin?
There's no big difference between that, the only thing who changed was the way how people roleplayed from both sides, i've seen alot from you in-game and alot of them was complains on public chat or besides that you don't roleplay either.

Conclusion.  While we will think that the main job in Argo is growing weed in hills and while we will think that cops are minded to kill you and take you to jail, we will have Argonath DM.

You choose your own way to roleplay and if people like to grow weed you can't complain about it, true that most of them like to DM but if you try to do the same as them you will never make any difference, so if you want Argonath to be like the old days start it by yourself instead of posting this and that.

Truth is most of the Argonath players pretty much come by the forums to complain about DeathMatch and PlayerBase, if you want Argonath to change in all of it's ways you must do something about it starting by yourself, talking won't solve anything!

Macy Ema Supported.

Regards,
Jairo.

[Subhan]

Heavily supported

[Younes]

While I agree to some points stated, I don't agree to others and especially referring to closing SAPD by removing freecop rank.
This has been done before (when the server had at least 40 players a day), and all it has brought is complete inactivity of SAPD from the server, leading to no presence of police officers during most of times.

The current issue is that we as SAPD members try to interact with the other side but all they do is just ignore us or hunt for notoriety. It is rare to find a legal citizen to roleplay with because they don't wish to roleplay and rather make money, that's what I've seen in past year(s) unfortunately.

What should rather be done is having scripts that improve roleplay and actually removing those that encourage money farming and zero interaction between players, and just notoriety farming.

[John Ley]

Heavily supported

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Add more RP Jobs and assist any player if he wants to make a RP Group. Weapon license to be given ONLY to legal people after a test and close ammunation to avoid DM... most of times DM is done by illegal people.
And more...

[Macy_Ema]

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Add more RP Jobs and assist any player if he wants to make a RP Group. Weapon license to be given ONLY to legal people after a test and close ammunation to avoid DM... most of times DM is done by illegal people.
And more...

Ye, but why not make it for only who got passport and after test as you said but not for legal people only, legal people can be illegal , don't think that, you mean only legal families like collin or gatsby or Something else? Well I hope so..

[shroud]

This would be nice.

[John Ley]

Well, what can I say ?

Argonath wants to stay as it is without updating anything. Many applications kept the same options for their users and after months, they were forced to close the application.

You always have to keep updating and giving new things to your users. What will we enjoy now?  Weedfield, DM, notoriety and cases.
One or two players who wants to RP.
Good luck then 👏👏. I suggest you to take those suggestions above into confederation. Thanks.

[Dante3905]

Heavily supported

[Brian]

Hey there, as for this idea. I will do my best to get some of the above points to get worked on, but our main focus right now is repairing old jobs, like the fire/ EMS duty, taxi duty (Viktor Gvardia is doing a real good job with it) and similar to those, so that the people between gangs, and cops have things to do too, it'd create more role play for both parties (if people actually wish to want that, both criminals and cops need to work on this together!) and it'll overall just create a better atmosphere, more options for both legal and criminal to still work together (on fire duty for example, on fire duty you are a neutral party, and as Argonath allows you to give your character multiple personalities, it'll allow you to be both a criminal, as a fire fighter (You do criminal and legal-neutral work as the same person, you won't be getting in trouble with your other person, but it'll allow you to role play as one, as something else.) and for police to have a legal and legal-neutral role play, and have the possibility to stand besides criminals instead of fighting them, and vise versa.

 This, in my opinion will bring back the role play level we had in RS4, or maybe even better, and it'll also give people more options to choose for when picking out their role play.

[Macy_Ema]

*claps* .. no comment 

[Jairo.]

Hey there, as for this idea. I will do my best to get some of the above points to get worked on, but our main focus right now is repairing old jobs, like the fire/ EMS duty, taxi duty (Viktor Gvardia is doing a real good job with it) and similar to those, so that the people between gangs, and cops have things to do too, it'd create more role play for both parties (if people actually wish to want that, both criminals and cops need to work on this together!) and it'll overall just create a better atmosphere, more options for both legal and criminal to still work together (on fire duty for example, on fire duty you are a neutral party, and as Argonath allows you to give your character multiple personalities, it'll allow you to be both a criminal, as a fire fighter (You do criminal and legal-neutral work as the same person, you won't be getting in trouble with your other person, but it'll allow you to role play as one, as something else.) and for police to have a legal and legal-neutral role play, and have the possibility to stand besides criminals instead of fighting them, and vise versa.

 This, in my opinion will bring back the role play level we had in RS4, or maybe even better, and it'll also give people more options to choose for when picking out their role play.

It is actually great to see someone that's actually interested on doing something for the server which is rare, thanks alot Brian