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on: December 09, 2017, 03:06:42 pm
Your in-game name: Jake

Your account name: Basico
Ban reason as was stated in-game: Rulebreaking
Admin who banned you: paprika
When you were banned: 09/12/2017 (d/m/y)

Reason why you did it: After I`ve been told that I died in the rp and helped johny, he got unsu-ed and he got inside my car to drive him away. Got frozen and then banned. Why the hell ?

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Reply #1 on: December 09, 2017, 03:14:34 pm
Do you know why did I drive slowly away from him and you with my radar expanded to full zoom-out? Just so that I could see if you would help him out to get to the nearest car.

Hurr-durr.. paprika will not see it

At the moment I am only wondering if you guys knew that he is at low /rhl, so you thought it would be okay to do it that way.



Regardless of that situation, the question remains - Why did you return to help him even though you died in roleplay and I specifically told you that you can not return to help?



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Reply #2 on: December 09, 2017, 03:16:38 pm
Do you know why did I drive slowly away from him and you with my radar expanded to full zoom-out? Just so that I could see if you would help him out to get to the nearest car.

Hurr-durr.. paprika will not see it

At the moment I am only wondering if you guys knew that he is at low /rhl, so you thought it would be okay to do it that way.



Regardless of that situation, the question remains - Why did you return to help him even though you died in roleplay and I specifically told you that you can not return to help?

No man, the thing is, he ran towards the mid park, i told him to get back and run behind me because there was the nearest state car, and when he got in my banshee as a passenger right about then he got unsu-ed. So when I saw that, I drove like 5 meters, and then got frozen- banned. I didn`t tell him to get in my car, you can check the logs.

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Reply #3 on: December 09, 2017, 03:18:25 pm
Regardless of that situation, the question remains - Why did you return to help him even though you died in roleplay and I specifically told you that you can not return to help?

10 Minutes have elapsed after I died, that`s why I came back. And I don`t remember you saying that I cannot, because if you did, I wouldn`t have got him and help him.

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yes, i did know that, he told me every minute when a minute have elapsed out of his rhl

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Reply #4 on: December 09, 2017, 03:23:09 pm
I specifically said "no?" to your question to which you replied with the "5-10" minutes rule.

The de facto rule which is only connected to the police officers returning to chase after death... which I personally find pathetic regardless of the situation.



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Reply #5 on: December 09, 2017, 03:25:02 pm
I specifically said "no?" to your question to which you replied with the "5-10" minutes rule.

The de facto rule which is only connected to the police officers returning to chase after death... which I personally find pathetic regardless of the situation.

so what is the conclusion? i got banned because i didn`t see your "no" / you didn`t say it? will i ever get unbanned or I will just end my story of the server here and never come back? I really don`t want the last option..

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Reply #6 on: December 09, 2017, 03:31:30 pm
As always with all the players on this server, we expect them to show the understanding for all of their current and previous actions.

Our conclusion is then drawn from their statements after all of the issued penalties.

Here is the list of punishments connected to your account from the previous ban up to this point:

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1 Mihail paprika Ban Ignoring server /rules|Constant rulebreaking 2017-12-09
2 Joey Joey_Stark Kick Learn not to use the N word 2017-11-30
3 Joey Joey_Stark Tempban Bad Attitude 2017-11-20
4 gabrielkiriac Brian_Gale Warn abusing flipped vehicle as a suspect 2017-10-24
5 Bob123 Bob123 Tempban Terrible RP, ignoring administration, refusal to follow officers while surrendered 2017-10-15
6 harzy98 Harzy Kick Trolling 2017-10-05
7 harzy98 Harzy Ajail Bad Attitude 2017-09-30
8 batman Bruce_Wayne Tempban insulting/bad attitude 2017-09-28
9 mIDO mIDO Kick enough with the insulting 2017-09-17
10 Joey Joey_Stark Kick ramming 2017-09-11
11 Joey Joey_Stark Kick Keep that stuff yourself 2017-09-06
12 Joey Joey_Stark Tempban Abusing script | Using duty to avoid pullover 2017-09-03
13 Joey Joey_Stark Kick Misleading 2017-09-01
14 Joey Joey_Stark Kick Stop moaning 2017-08-16
15 Joey Joey_Stark Ajail Constant insulting/moaning 2017-08-16
16 Joey Joey_Stark Kick No insulting here 2017-08-16
17 osamad112 Osamad Tempban fucking around is not allowed here 2017-08-05
18 gabrielkiriac Brian_Gale Kick enough trolling 2017-04-01
19 JamesC [R*]James_Conway Kick kick not getting the payday back 2017-03-31
20 Mihail paprika Warn Last warning|Respect the server rules or change the game 2017-03-30
21 mIDO mIDO Kick calm down and watch your attitute 2017-03-30
22 Loon Bert Kick Watch your language 2017-03-29
23 Mihail paprika Warn Do not mislead 2017-03-28
24 mackos freddy Ajail flooding 2017-03-26
25 Mihail paprika Kick Do not go afk as a suspect|Welcome back 2017-03-19
26 Senate [R*]Senate Ban constant rulebreaking 2017-02-21


Show us understanding so that we can show you some from our side.

What would be a fair penalty for the list of rulebreaks you did earlier on up to this point?



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Reply #7 on: December 09, 2017, 03:38:11 pm
As always with all the players on this server, we expect them to show the understanding for all of their current and previous actions.

Our conclusion is then drawn from their statements after all of the issued penalties.

Here is the list of punishments connected to your account from the previous ban up to this point:

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1 Mihail paprika Ban Ignoring server /rules|Constant rulebreaking 2017-12-09
2 Joey Joey_Stark Kick Learn not to use the N word 2017-11-30
3 Joey Joey_Stark Tempban Bad Attitude 2017-11-20
4 gabrielkiriac Brian_Gale Warn abusing flipped vehicle as a suspect 2017-10-24
5 Bob123 Bob123 Tempban Terrible RP, ignoring administration, refusal to follow officers while surrendered 2017-10-15
6 harzy98 Harzy Kick Trolling 2017-10-05
7 harzy98 Harzy Ajail Bad Attitude 2017-09-30
8 batman Bruce_Wayne Tempban insulting/bad attitude 2017-09-28
9 mIDO mIDO Kick enough with the insulting 2017-09-17
10 Joey Joey_Stark Kick ramming 2017-09-11
11 Joey Joey_Stark Kick Keep that stuff yourself 2017-09-06
12 Joey Joey_Stark Tempban Abusing script | Using duty to avoid pullover 2017-09-03
13 Joey Joey_Stark Kick Misleading 2017-09-01
14 Joey Joey_Stark Kick Stop moaning 2017-08-16
15 Joey Joey_Stark Ajail Constant insulting/moaning 2017-08-16
16 Joey Joey_Stark Kick No insulting here 2017-08-16
17 osamad112 Osamad Tempban fucking around is not allowed here 2017-08-05
18 gabrielkiriac Brian_Gale Kick enough trolling 2017-04-01
19 JamesC [R*]James_Conway Kick kick not getting the payday back 2017-03-31
20 Mihail paprika Warn Last warning|Respect the server rules or change the game 2017-03-30
21 mIDO mIDO Kick calm down and watch your attitute 2017-03-30
22 Loon Bert Kick Watch your language 2017-03-29
23 Mihail paprika Warn Do not mislead 2017-03-28
24 mackos freddy Ajail flooding 2017-03-26
25 Mihail paprika Kick Do not go afk as a suspect|Welcome back 2017-03-19
26 Senate [R*]Senate Ban constant rulebreaking 2017-02-21


Show us understanding so that we can show you some from our side.

What would be a fair penalty for the list of rulebreaks you did earlier on up to this point?

I was afraid that you`ll come up with that, but I can explain most of them;
Well the thing is I`m kind of sure that I won`t come back this year or probably not even the next year but I know that the actual reason for my permanent ban was that I aided johny, and after your warn, even if he was not a suspect anymore..

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Reply #8 on: December 09, 2017, 03:46:50 pm
I was afraid that you`ll come up with that

Show us understanding so that we can show you some from our side.

What would be a fair penalty for the list of rulebreaks you did earlier on up to this point?


The point of administration is not to make players on the server afraid of it issuing the penalty of a permanent ban, but to stop you from reaching that point.

The question still remains - What would be a fair penalty for the list of rulebreaks you did earlier on up to this point?



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Reply #9 on: December 09, 2017, 03:48:57 pm
The question still remains - What would be a fair penalty for the list of rulebreaks you did earlier on up to this point?

well i dont really know, because i dont have the power to judge my own penalty.. but i would say that i would get up from 1 month of ban to 1 year, or permanent..

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Show us understanding so that we can show you some from our side.

im assuming that most of them are my fault, but not all. i can also see that most of them are about my behaviour, and i know that, i cant ever shut up even if im guilty, and i also swear a lot especially when im angry, thats one of my worse defects..

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Reply #10 on: December 09, 2017, 04:00:52 pm
Thank you for admitting at least some of your flaws. As for the penalty period of 1 month to 1 year.. that is a wide range

What would be fair by your opinion? Think of it a bit and then post here, we are in no rush...

We are just trying to figure out here what would work out the best regarding our cooperation, between you as a player and us as the administration. We don't like dealing with rulebreaks either.. but since we did apply for it, we kinda have to

Just think of a situation where I am having fun doing some stunt.. and all of sudden I get a report to deal with some newcomer that does not understand English, except the words "weapon","kill" and "ok"



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Reply #11 on: December 09, 2017, 04:10:59 pm

The point of administration is not to make players on the server afraid of it issuing the penalty of a permanent ban, but to stop you from reaching that point.

The question still remains - What would be a fair penalty for the list of rulebreaks you did earlier on up to this point?

the thing is, at this point i will pay any consequences just to get back playing on the server. i will surely miss my assets that i worked almost a whole year for them and guys on the servers, especially hemanth, dread, steam, castellos, etc.
i will wait as much as it takes to, and check the forum everyday for news, and while doing this i am sure that i will fix my behaviour towards the admins ( joey especially, as i see a lot of punishments from him ), and learn how to control my anger, at least while playing iv:mp.


Thank you for admitting at least some of your flaws. As for the penalty period of 1 month to 1 year.. that is a wide range

What would be fair by your opinion? Think of it a bit and then post here, we are in no rush...

We are just trying to figure out here what would work out the best regarding our cooperation, between you as a player and us as the administration. We don't like dealing with rulebreaks either.. but since we did apply for it, we kinda have to

Just think of a situation where I am having fun doing some stunt.. and all of sudden I get a report to deal with some newcomer that does not understand English, except the words "weapon","kill" and "ok"


okay.. im not sure about this though. im not finding this funny, but honestly, my mouth would now say unban me now lmao but thats just  impossible at this point. i cant choose a short period of time for the ban, because that can be too short, and i would sound like a complete piece of selfish shit, and not a long one because i will have to wait for what ive chosen. but, honestly, i would say at least 3 months, as my last ban was 1 month.

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Reply #12 on: December 10, 2017, 10:47:27 am
I personally am not a fan of long punishments or the indefinite ones [Exceptions can be made in some cases], but here is what I would suggest:

- Either 3 months of unban pending
- Or 1 month + Cannabis/Weed-seeds/Weapons/Money/Vehicle removed from your invent without refund


But anyways, I leave it to the management to decide



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Reply #13 on: December 10, 2017, 12:16:35 pm
I personally am not a fan of long punishments or the indefinite ones [Exceptions can be made in some cases], but here is what I would suggest:

- Either 3 months of unban pending
- Or 1 month + Cannabis/Weed-seeds/Weapons/Money/Vehicle removed from your invent without refund


But anyways, I leave it to the management to decide


oh anything but my assets. i can wait as much as possible but i dont want anything deleted from my inventory

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Reply #14 on: December 31, 2017, 11:42:32 am
Your punishment list quite long, I'm surprised you weren't banned any sooner. I hope this break from IVMP will also give you an indefinite break from any further punishments in the future. Break the rules and we will be annoying, stay within the lines and you will never hear of us ;)

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