Massive Crash

[X~Shaheen~X]

well i got the taste of a fine server yesterday night. I robbed a store knocked out a thug and went driving with the locals and met great people. No crash no glitch no error. I was done downloading and setting up regstriation getting a skin and renting a hotel room and it was 5 am so i called it a night. i said goodbye to all the people i met and that was the end of that.

I woke up today at 9, instantly go to my computer and go on samp and start things up. All goes well and everything is fine. 10 minutes of fun gameplay saying hi to old time pals BOOM my first error. Samp error access denied 000000c. I said thats cool prolly just a glitch or something. I play for another 5 minutes, sadly i spawn in las venturas and everyone always chills at los santos. I hit the los santos region and BOOM another error.

This repeated itself for a few times getting quicker and quicker. Sometimes it gives a samp error, sometimes the gta exe just closes insantly. I have no clue whats going. Everytime i need to drive 5 minutes to los santos only to find il glitch and crash to re appear 5 minutes away. its been 2 hours i tried getting to los santos nothing. Then i tried going other places and still i crash.

I figured id ask the locals whats going on, some stated they crash as often as i do. i constantly relogin and i notice they are never out of the server while i am constantly relogging in because of a recent crash. Some said it happens often in the server, some say develepores are trying to fix it. Why did i not crash yesterday from 3am to 5 am? And now it will not let me do anything. When i try to spawn , i am stuck under a car therefore it wont let me spawn because while driving i crashed leaving the car exactly ontop of my location.

Now im stuck, sad , tired and depressed.
If anyone could find out why and how these crashes and glitches happen and if there is a way to fix them, please, please please please! tell me the solution thanks


edit: i also would like to say another thing, many server disconnect or crash when i enter so it might be because i have mods. problem is the mods i have seem to be stuck on any grand theft auto install i do. it appears to be hiding in my harddrive or something and i dont know what to do. i think some server dont allow mods or samp gets lost and shuts down on me, im going to try to find a way to uninstall the mods, if anyone can help please post.



EDIT EDIT!!!

i put this up on samp because 200 people are on thread and answers come fast but you guys tend to be smarter than the avg perosn at samp so try to asnwer these questions:








Hello 

Im new to samp and there are a lot of things that im learning. im having fun and im enjoying my stay at samp but there are a few issues that i would like to resolve before i can really start to enjoy the full potent ional of samp. if you can answer any question just write the number and answer and any links if added. Thanks ahead of time





1 - i have mods on my san andreas that do not want to delete no matter how hard i try. i have reinstalled over 15 times. im not sure what keeps putting it there. i have downloaded a clean fresh san andreas but once im done downloading the mods are there. i bought another legit cd and then again the mods come up. the mods i have are only txd files so im not sure if they do much damage but id like to fix them anyways. The following are the mods that do not want to disappear


bmx - pimp lowrider bike

truck - towing long truck , i think a dff is included with it not sure if this is bad

player txd, i tried a superman mod which made him white but now he has no eyes or a mouth and hes really weird looking. white arms black legs grey chest etc.

San fierro garage you unlock in missions - it looks really ugly and old so i got a mod to make it look nice and new. Its a building txd

And i think 1 or 2 extra txd car files.


Im not sure if they do much damage other than lag sometimes but is there a way to get rid of them? They keep coming back and i don’t know what to do





2      there seems to be this one annoying error in which i am just playing and all of a sudden san andreas just shuts down. no warning no error, all i see is the samp client and my gta disappears. It happens sometimes when i immediately after i login in a home server or when i go to a server and select a skin. im not sure why it does this. i sometimes get a error il send it out once i get it again since its pretty random.

example: i join a server it loads up fine i can chat with people and everything is ok. i select a skin and i press shift - game ends with no warning. it just stops smoothly not even a  crash just sudden death disappears

example 2 : i could be logging in and im able to play for anywhere from 1- 10 mins then im walking around and again it just shuts down with no warning and its a smooth shutdown it does not give a error, when i get the error il be sure to write it down.


              does anyone know why it just shuts down like that? if you want my system requirements they are below


           


       3   this is a slight addition to 2


In some servers usually and oddly server with less than 10 people, im able to play normally. i was playing a dm server with no problem for 2 hours. when i join a pg server i like or servers with 40 ish people, it usually does the crash from #2. im not sure if the amount of people have to do with anything or the amount of script involved but could anyone explain if this is just me or if there is a theory behind it



       INFO


if there is some justification you need for any question please ask me for info and il modify as soon as i can. This is to help others and me. Thanks in advance for your help i really hope i can get #2 solved asap because i cant play on  the servers i like im forced to play dm servers with 9 people so it gets pretty boring 



SYSTEM

im running a >>>VISTA<<<< - im probably going to get shanked for this but ive seen many people play with vista fine

New computer got it in Septembers
1 gig of ram
64mb NVIDIA video card
dual core 3gh



IF THERE IS ANYTHING YOU NEED , MORE INFO ON MY QUESTIONS OR WHAT IVE TRIED BEFORE PLEASE POST IL GET BACK TO YOU FAST

[Omri]

Shut down all programs in background! Easy and simple

[X~Shaheen~X]

everything is off

[X~Shaheen~X]

sorry for double post but i just found something out
on  any samp server for some reason it will only let me select servers with under than 10 ppl , if i go to a server with 11 when i press shift to start it jsut boots me automatically. im going to smap forum see what  i can do

[Gandalf]

The difference between our server and many other is that we have the SAC (Anticheat) turned off, and do not put in a ping kicker. From your scores at some games it seems that you have a good lag. Basicly you crash because of timeout (lag). On servers with SAC and/or ping kicker you will be kicked, on ours you will crash.
If you crash frequently, if might be because of some things remaining in memory after crash.
Something that has helped in the past (do not ask me why) is not to log in for 30 seconds, then after being kicked come back as normal.

We are working on resolving the issues, however most are because an RPG script uses a lot of memory for its features. And while by recoding and using less variable we have managed to bring down the script size with 50%, there are still some things that cause players to time out.

[X~Shaheen~X]

that made some sense but even if its a time out or a kick, i dont spend more than 5 seconds on the server after loging in, and i know that the script has  a skipe timeout meaning if a i spike it atleast gives a warning ot waits a bit for my spike to go down. i think it has something to do with my sanandreas mdos that i cant remove, if u or anyone else has info on how to remove the mods plz tell me, i have a fully good version of sanandreas but whenever i install on my computer mdos come up, on a friends no mods. something is hiding from me im trying to fix it.

[Fatboy_Rob]

Gandalf explaned the best, its somthigng with the scripts they are working very hard on.

Its not your SA:MP with the crashes, its the server - im on another server for about 10 hours - no crash.
Also, about 50% of crashes is client side, not server.

About the under 10 - not sure, ask SA:MP forums.

About login - wait until you see people start chatting til' you login - that was your not stuck in LV

[VMNT]

Gandalf explaned the best, its somthigng with the scripts they are working very hard on.

Its not your SA:MP with the crashes, its the server - im on another server for about 10 hours - no crash.
Also, about 50% of crashes is client side, not server.

About the under 10 - not sure, ask SA:MP forums.

About login - wait until you see people start chatting til' you login - that was your not stuck in LV

Or just until the textures appear... i.e the bridge where you stand on, Then log in, you will log in at the last point you were when you crashed, you also save your skin.

[X~Shaheen~X]

alright il take your word for that ,but what about when i go to other servers and when i press shift to spawn my client shutsa down. and when i close samp it gives me a violation error and the error pops up 100 times a second crashing my comptuer everytime i clsoe samp. there is soo much problems with it all. i also think its my modded gta. even so i want to de mod my gta but its not working

i jsut installed it on a new hardrive but im already doubting it will make a difference

[Fatboy_Rob]

Ive heard of mods that dont run from the game itself (gta3.img) but from other folders (from vent on other community)
And they said it was fucking his game up.

Also, it sounds like you use Vista - you have two ways to safely close SA:MP/VC:MP
1) ctrl+alt+delete - End SA:MP process
2) close it normally with the X - HOLD enter til all boxes go away.

when i press shift to spawn my client shutsa down.

Sounds like your modded GTA
If worse comes to worse, backup your files that you want to keep, and system restore - or format & reinstall Vista.

Because if its an external mod, and you cant find the folder - kinda screwed

[X~Shaheen~X]

yeah its a hidden mod, there is nothing i can do. i erased all my system restores, wish i kept the first one. i dleted my system restores and got 30 gegs of memory back. eitherway i have no clue whats going to happen to me. im deleting and cleaning otu computer, downloading everything again from enw sources. I am able to play on  a few servers but some not and im googling how to take out those other mods. if i cant take them out im screwed badly. if anyone could help drop a word - thanks for info

[Fatboy_Rob]

Honestly shaheen, is Format + Reinstall OS.

Its faster than going in and manually deleting + gets rid of virus's (if there are any)

Just backup Music on MP3 disc - Pics/files/pr0nz on a DVD.
Then reinstall GTA & all necessary things

[X~Shaheen~X]

wow that sounds big. ok im willing to attempt it, give me a step by step guide on exactly what im formating where the buttons are. excuse my low knowledge of it all first time formatting :3

give step by step guide


edit: just so we know were on the same page here, the only way im getting rid of these mods is to tottatly re install my vista, which sucks bad since i need to back up everything lol , im jsut saying this so i dont end up doing something you werent really talking about. since i cant jsut uninstall and reinstall game its gone much farther than that. so what your saying is i have to total format

if so give step by step guide

if not , excuse it :p and tell me

[Watti]

 u on Vista??

[X~Shaheen~X]

yes im using vista

also i have some good/bad news


the only way i can fully restore the txd files is to format my hardrive. now im not going to spend 120$ or the time to copy and paste 500 gega bytes worth of stuff. so thats the semi bad news. good news is that it checks out all i have is the txd files. if you dont do moding, txd is the texture of your car. so i can make a bike look like a tank but it will still be a bike altough youd look really stupid pedaling a tank. Im missing 1 ddf file which was truck and extra long weight balance i did a year ago. im safe aslong as this car is not on the server i play at. its the ugly truck that you probably only see once or twice while finishing the wholegame. :p

im working on getting a whole new gta3.img file , if anyone is willing to copy and paste and host it for one day id love you forever. im surfing the web i know i can find parts of the gta img but there are plenty of things i want to fix. i want the txd back to normal still, some cars are heavily detailed. I turned the blade into a full blown pimp mobile and tv in dashboard etc. so it lags whenever i see it. although it sounds dumb the car is worth 10mb of space... meaning if there is like 5 people around me and im driving the car = halarious lag...


once again if anyone has access to the gta3.img file id really love it if u could host it or something.

The only thing thats confusing me is why i was crashing so bad when i played. i did not crash with udner than 10 people but when there is above 10 people i start to crash. il be looking up samp errors see if its samp or this server. otherwise im gald i figured that out.