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Red Phosphorus ad clarification

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on: December 18, 2017, 02:25:40 am
Hello,

Is advertising the sale of red phosphorus illegal? I mean considering it is only a chemical with many uses, it shouldn't be. According to admins it is illegal though common sense would say otherwise.

Please clarify this.

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Reply #1 on: December 18, 2017, 02:26:38 am
it's not classified as illegal in the constitution, so it's not illegal to advertise sale of it.

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Reply #2 on: December 18, 2017, 02:28:44 am
it's not classified as illegal in the constitution, so it's not illegal to advertise sale of it.

Yes but admins enforce it as a rule claiming it is illegal hence I think HQ needs to clarify. I made ads and no admins said anything before but Ikhm and Kyle say no.

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Reply #3 on: December 18, 2017, 02:33:55 am
/facepalm, any meth ingredient is considered illegal thus why ppl say math books or cooking ingredients instead of naming each chemical.



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Reply #4 on: December 18, 2017, 02:36:42 am
/facepalm, any meth ingredient is considered illegal thus why ppl say math books or cooking ingredients instead of naming each chemical.
There is a difference between meth itself and ingredients put together to create it. People use math books because they are saying meth. I am simply selling a chemical on its own, not a collection of ingredients or meth. 

I don't see how this is a "/facepalm" situation. If anything, facepalm should be at this logic.

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Reply #5 on: December 18, 2017, 02:37:46 am
/facepalm, any meth ingredient is considered illegal thus why ppl say math books or cooking ingredients instead of naming each chemical.

I wouldn't say that they should be illegal, otherwise every other chemical element should be. There's many different uses for them, you can use them to craft a dildo that goes on fire (RPly) so I don't see a point of calling it illegal. It's just chemistry shit.

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I am simply selling a chemical on its own, not a collection of ingredients or meth. 
I don't see how this is a "/facepalm" situation. If anything, facepalm should be at this logic.
I agree.



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Reply #6 on: December 18, 2017, 02:38:42 am
It's just chemistry shit.
Exactly.

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Reply #7 on: December 18, 2017, 02:51:26 am
I know it's illogical and not every rule is set on logical grounds either however i was applying what i was told of and I'm not gonna change that by myself.
The facepalm is because you're refusing to understand after a dozen of repeated explanations.



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Reply #8 on: December 18, 2017, 02:53:18 am
I know it's illogical and not every rule is set on logical grounds either however i was applying what i was told of and I'm not gonna change that by myself.
The facepalm is because you're refusing to understand after a dozen of repeated explanations.
How can one understand something that is illogical which you've just pointed out yourself. It requires change hence I made this topic. I ain't refusing anything, I am merely disagreeing with this rule and pushing for change.

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Reply #9 on: December 18, 2017, 02:54:45 am
Lol don't advertise illegal stuff. Use common sense



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Reply #10 on: December 18, 2017, 02:55:43 am

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Reply #11 on: December 18, 2017, 03:21:26 am
meth - maths
meth equipment - maths equipment
toys - guns
nerf guns - real guns
tea - weed
green tea - definitely weed
red powder - red phosphorus

6 months of detective work to figure this out you're welcome


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Reply #12 on: December 18, 2017, 03:46:18 am
Selling such chemicals isn't even illegal IRL AFAIK. Sure it will definitely raise red flags to the cops but they can only make an arrest once meth is actually made or intent to make meth is proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I get ID'd at any store when I buy anything containing chemicals that could aid in manufacturing meth. Most of the time it's something like a bottle of cold syrup, and the store has to keep log of it in case cops need it.

TL;DR - It shouldn't be illegal to tell but it definitely should give cops enough probable cause to start investigating and watching those who buy and sell it.

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Reply #13 on: December 18, 2017, 03:53:02 am
Just because it can be made to meth you can't illegalize it. With that logic, let's illegalize metal too because people can make tanks out of it.



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Reply #14 on: December 18, 2017, 08:51:52 am
Your ad clearly indicates that you intend to use the materials in the production of meth, which makes the ad illegal.




 


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