My new PC

[SamirM]

Right now I've got a shit-to-moderate PC, so I decided to upgrade.
This is the PC I'm aiming at right now, considering for only 69 marks more ($43.125) the requirements tower over a PC ima show you aswell
https://bnc.ba/product/fujitsu-esprimo-p700-i5-2500s-8-500-gtx750ti/
(language is Bosnian, but you can get what it's saying)

Yet this is the cheaper PC I was talking about
https://bnc.ba/product/hp-8100-tower-i5-750-4-250-dvd-rw-gt710/

Now I have 2 questions;
What's you opinion on those PCs?
Is it worth it buying the first PC?

Also if I posted on the wrong section let me know

[Max_Crawford]

Fujitsu in 2017
they created very reliable computers in the past don't know about now but if u have extra $$ definitely go with the Fujitsu computer its a lot better deal than the other one

[SamirM]

Fujitsu in 2017
they created very reliable computers in the past don't know about now but if u have extra $$ definitely go with the Fujitsu computer its a lot better deal than the other one

Yep, but how good that PC in general though? Does it have any flaws, anything very old, bottlenecks or anything of that nature?

[Solis]

The first PC is the better choice but both are antiquated for today. I would wait till next year and get a coffee lake i3 (now they're 4 cores instead of 2) along with one of the cheaper motherboards for it. Or a Ryzen 3. They'll have similar or better performance to the i5 2500 while being cheaper (prolly) and more up-to-date.

Also get a 1050 Ti instead of the 750 Ti.

[SamirM]

Alright then.
Which games (preferrably AAA) can my rig run and how good can it run them? Use any as an example

I know that I can look this up many websites like gamedebate but I don't trust those sites very much.

[Max_Crawford]

Yep, but how good that PC in general though? Does it have any flaws, anything very old, bottlenecks or anything of that nature?

the cpu and gpu are kinda outdated like the is gpu is from 2013 based on the Kepler architecture (not very future proof) and that cpu was released on 2011, but you'll be able to run most of the games released 1-2 years ago with decent fps and settings, but you'll soon need to upgrade it to be able to run the newer games coming out, and you're better off with an LGA1511 motherboard that  supports ddr4 and newer cpus if you ever want to upgrade.

[SamirM]

the cpu and gpu are kinda outdated like the is gpu is from 2013 based on the Kepler architecture (not very future proof) and that cpu was released on 2011, but you'll be able to run most of the games released 1-2 years ago with decent fps and settings, but you'll soon need to upgrade it to be able to run the newer games coming out, and you're better off with an LGA1511 motherboard that  supports ddr4 and newer cpus if you ever want to upgrade.

Alright then, I don't plan to play many newer games right now.
How would be the FPS on a game say.. Call of Duty: WWII? On GameDebate it says that the rig surpasses the minimum settings.

Also, I've heard that the computers have been used for ''mineing'' (I dunno what that means in my language, letalone English, I used google translate for ''mineovanje''), in short they have been on 24/7 for approx. 2 months, so would that PC (or that graphics card) die out soon?

[Max_Crawford]

Alright then, I don't plan to play many newer games right now.
How would be the FPS on a game say.. Call of Duty: WWII? On GameDebate it says that the rig surpasses the minimum settings.
Also, I've heard that the computers have been used for ''mineing'' (I dunno what that means in my language, letalone English, I used google translate for ''mineovanje''), in short they have been on 24/7 for approx. 2 months, so would that PC (or that graphics card) die out soon?

You can't predict exact performance on a computer (GameDebate can be wrong sometimes)  but I think you would be able to play COD:WW2 on low-medium settings with good fps.
Mining wouldn't be a good idea for you to do, here's why:
-Mining requires more than 1 GPU to be efficient.
-It can eventually fry your GPU.
-Even you make a good amount of money you'd have to pay a lot of money for electricity bills so it's really not profitable.
-Many people joined the mining community which makes it even harder for individuals to make money.
-AMD's GPUs are a lot more superior when it comes to mining.

[SamirM]

You can't predict exact performance on a computer (GameDebate can be wrong sometimes)  but I think you would be able to play COD:WW2 on low-medium settings with good fps.
Mining wouldn't be a good idea for you to do, here's why:
-Mining requires more than 1 GPU to be efficient.
-It can eventually fry your GPU.
-Even you make a good amount of money you'd have to pay a lot of money for electricity bills so it's really not profitable.
-Many people joined the mining community which makes it even harder for individuals to make money.
-AMD's GPUs are a lot more superior when it comes to mining.

I didn't imply that I want to mine, I just heard from a reliable source that BNC's (the people from who I'm buying) computers were used for mining for a long time, so I wondered if they'd break down in a year or a couple of months or so..? Would they last long if they were used for mining for a long time? I just plan to use it for gaming, and well whatever I need on it.

[AK47]

On GameDebate it says that the rig surpasses the minimum settings.

Always;



Sure it can surpass the minimum settings, but at what cost? That can mean that it runs the game at ultra low @ 480p etc.


And all honesty, that PC is shit so better save up for something else

[SamirM]

https://bnc.ba/product/fujitsu-esprimo-p710-i7-3770-8-500-gtx1050ti/

I don't have the budget to afford this PC, but I think this PC is the shit, the father the baba m8

Atleast in my country lmao

[EDIT]
https://bnc.ba/product/everest-rampage-glory-g01-tower-i7-2600-8-500-gtx-1050ti-dvd-rw/
Found this one aswell, how is it?

[SamirM]

So I have got up the budget to buy either this
https://bnc.ba/product/everest-rampage-glory-g01-tower-i7-2600-8-500-gtx-1050ti-dvd-rw/
or this
https://bnc.ba/product/fujitsu-esprimo-p710-i7-3770-8-500-gtx1050ti/
PC, I think I'd rather buy the cheaper (first) one because there isn't much of a difference but it's cheaper, is it worth it for that little bit of CPU power?

[AK47]

You have no options to buy parts and build it yourself? The 1050ti is a good choice but the rest is kinda meh, I mean DDR3 in 2017/2018 and a 500GB HDD will fill instantly. Also a locked old CPU isnt really the best bang for the buck so to say

[Joe_George]

You have no options to buy parts and build it yourself?

that's the best choice imo 
since the shops nowadays try to rip off our money just becoz their pc has only 1 good part: good RAM/ good cpu/ dedicated gpu/ newest windows... the rest of it is totally meh and lame   

[SamirM]

I agree, it's also cheaper in the most cases, but problem is my parents don't trust me, they think that electricity from a totally plugged off computer can kill me..
and they think everybody's smarter than me so that's another minus, so I only have a choice to buy a premade one
Once I bought a harddisk with my father, and he doesn't let me plug it in.. what's the point of buying a HDD then genie?

About the HDD, I won't get many games, and those games which'd bore me I'd just deinstall them apart from the save files so I can pirate install them again and play them again.

RAM, I don't really see the weakness in DDR3, most of the PCs I see are DDR3, DDR4 is kind of a rare sight for me, and 8 GB is more than enough for my purposes

CPU, you're probably right, I wonder though how different those 2 CPUs are, I mean is it worth it forking over more dough for a slightly more powerful CPU or are the differences miniscule?