Request | Gruppe Sechs Rights

[Kowalski.]

FROM: Gruppe Sechs Security Chief Steve McQueen

TO: Liberty City People's Court, Jury Spokesman Mane Jugovic

SECTOR ONE: DETAILS
Honourable Court,
I'd like to request that Gruppe Sechs are given special rights. I will, in Sector Two, elaborate on the rights we are requesting, and why we require them.

SECTOR TWO: REQUESTS

The first right I would like to request is that Gruppe Sechs is given permission to use lethal force. The reason for this is that we offer protection for any property, and we take every measure required to protect that property. If we have the right to use lethal force, we can then protect and safe-keep the property that our clients hire us for. Without this right, we are unable to protect the property, and although we may be able to dial 911, police aren't always available to respond. If Gruppe Sechs is given the right to use lethal force, we can neutralize the attackers instantly, and any property given to us for safe-keeping remains safe. We also offer security for any event, party or building, and we provide heavily-armed units, who can stop attackers. If we cannot stop them by brandishing our guns, we need the right to use lethal force against them, in order for the property to remain safe, and to provide reliable services, at an affordable price.

The second right I would like to request is that we can use the following military-grade weapons:

• Remington Model 1100 TAC 4 Combat Shotgun
• M4A1 Carbine Rifle

The reason for this is that if we use standard weapons, they may not be powerful and efficient enough to neutralize armored attackers. In the event that armored attackers come in a large group, Gruppe Sechs need to be able to effectively neutralize the attackers, keeping any property under our care safe. I would also like to point out that although I am a former criminal, it's been a very long time since I committed a valid crime, and I've handed all my illegal goods in. LCPD Cadet Kerrar can confirm this if needed. If any rights given to us by the court are abused, the employee who abused them would be reported to the courts, and removed from our company, as we need to keep a good attitude standard, and if these disciplinary actions are needed to keep a high standard, we will carry them out, 100% guarantee.

My third request is that Gruppe Sechs is declared the official security company of Liberty City, reason being, we are the ONLY corporate providing such services. However, if the court doesn't deem us ready for an official status at the present, our request is changed to the following:

"My third request is that Gruppe Sechs is given an official status once the court deems us ready, after proving ourselves"

I also would like to point out that most of the businesses I founded were useless. I acknowledge this, which is why I completely reworked Gruppe Sechs and I have also found a  renewed interest in this business.

I would like to thank the courts for their time reviewing this case.

Steve McQueen
Gruppe Sechs Security Chief

[superh2o]

The court, isn't authorized to give something like this, this needs to be approved by the HQ then courts, as we for sure cant give out licenses for killing, and unique weapons.

CASE CLOSED unless HQ says its ok.

[James Conway]

If permission/license granted by the lcpd it is okay.

[superh2o]

From:Courts of the State of Liberty
Frankfort Ave.
Liberty City, Algonquin


From Liberty State Supreme Judge of the Liberty State Supreme Court, Mane_Jugovic

To: Gruppe Sechs Security Chief Steve McQueen

The following demands have been recognized:
Demand 1)

The first right I would like to request is that Gruppe Sechs is given permission to use lethal force

Demand 2)

The second right I would like to request is that we can use the following military-grade weapons:

Demand 3)

My third request is that Gruppe Sechs is declared the official security company of Liberty City

Elaboration of solution for demand 1)

The only thing court is able to hand out to civilian operated Security & Transport company's is the reminder of rights to defend there lives in case of a threat against the same, killing anyone in a self-defense, backed by ideally cam footage, pictures, audio or witnesses statements, will not be prosecuted by the law.

Using lethal force to protect property would be a criminal act.
The protection of property must be done with non lethal force unless confronted with lethal force.

This means, G6 can indeed take actions against aggressors who are threatening there lives, or lives of there client.
But G6 can't be the aggressor, you can't shoot/detain/maim/harm someone and claim they were a threat if they did nothing to in danger your lives or lives of your client/s.
G6 is obliged to notify police as soon as they encounter any danger, or when they face a situation where they have no right to act, lets say you are securing a party, you have no right to remove individuals by force, who have done no action against you or your clients, you must notify police and let them escort the subject off the property grounds.

All laws of the Liberty City apply to G6, that means, that means for Demand 2) You will need to receive approval of the LCPD.

Act 10.3

Spoiler for Hiden:

Remington model 1100 TAC 4 Combat shotgun, SW MP-10 submachine gun, AK-47, M4A1 and PSG-1 are classified as military-class weapons and only Law Enforcers are permitted to possess and operate these, and only when performing their duties.

LCPD will be notified by court about this case, and they will give there statement as soon as they are able, also LCPD is able to set there own demands and rules how the guns can be used, and in what situations, heavy weapons like those who you are requesting must not be used in every situation.

Demand 3)

Gruppe Sechs can't be declared official security company of Liberty City, as individuals are those who pick who will they employ for security, as for all other threat's, that might happen we have LCPD,FBI and NOOSE. *as described in demand 1 elaboration, you can only react to aggression you cant be the aggressor*

The Liberty City approves of all company's to find there own way of distinguishing them self's, so that one day they might be sponsored by the city, but as of now, no Company has reached that level of organisation and trust by the citizens.

Till we wait for LCPD to share there opinion, dose G6 understand the terms they can operate as a legal company?

Signed
The Liberty City Supreme  Judge:
            Mane_Jugovic

[Steven S.]

Liberty City Police Department Emerald St. Liberty City, Algonquin		National Office of Security Enforcement Bismarck Ave. Liberty City, Algonquin

TO:

Courts of the State of Liberty
Frankfort Ave.
Liberty City, Algonquin


DATE: 08/01/2018
FROM: LCPD Captain / N.O.O.S.E. CIU Inspector Steven Seagal
TO: District Jury's spokesman Mane Jugovic.


SUBJECT: LCPD STATEMENT

Honorable Judge,

The Liberty City Police Department is concerned about the many switches between criminal and legal life that the organisation's owner has done and the instability of the same as he has been banned from applying for two official law agencies (FBI & LCPD). For this, we are forced to reject the demand to the war grade weapons usage in public.
However our goal is not about destroying dreams, so the department might (doesn't guarantee) evaluate the same demand in future but only with the current established terms and rules below.


- The organisation must run for atleast a year.

A newly established organisation who has been closed many times shouldn't receive rights to use the war grade weapons. We decided to let it run for atleast a year without closing even once.

- The organisation must have a minimum of 5 members.

It would be useless giving a license if it's members are lesser than 5.

- The organisation must be active.

During the year the organisation must be active both in the playing side and in the roleplay events side.

- None of the organisation's members must be a criminal.

LCPD is fighting about the illegal holding of this demand, therefore none of it's member must be a criminal. We are aware that this license will be valid only during the duty, but we want to avoid the abuse as much we can.

- Public feedback.

At the end of this year we would like to hear the feedback from the organisation's customers in order to see if the service is satisfying enough  or badly performed.


As stated above the LCPD doesn't guarantee that the license will be approved after the operating year, but if the terms above will be followed without any mistake, the LCPD will tend to the positive verdict. Also, the judge can change/add rules listed above in order to test if the subject has really changed or just a sentence like the thousand others.
By the laws, the subject may exercise his service in the meantime and will be costantly evaluated by the LCPD Command.
Ending, we would like to see an agreeing statement from the judge and the verge chief.



Signed,

Steven Seagal
LCPD Captain
N.O.O.S.E. CIU Inspector

[Kowalski.]

FROM: Gruppe Sechs Security Chief Steve McQueen

TO: Spokesman Mane Jugovic, LCPD and NOOSE.

RESPONSE TO THE LCPD
There are some inaccuracies and points which weren't pointed out, by Inspector Seagal.

Sure, I've switched multiple times. However, I've been clean for 4 months now, handing in ALL of my illegal criminal goods. That, and I wanted a fresh start with the coming of 2018.

I was NOT banned from LCPD or the FBI. I was only given a ban from VCPD, and it wasn't because of criminal concerns, if the Spokesman requires the details, they'll be sent in private.

Another problem is, although Mane Jugovic has given us the lethal force rights required for our services as stated below:

Using lethal force to protect property would be a criminal act.
The protection of property must be done with non lethal force unless confronted with lethal force.

This means, G6 can indeed take actions against aggressors who are threatening there lives, or lives of there client.

If we are confronted with armed burgulars, who will try to steal the property under our care, or if we are working on a Security Detail (guarding event) and armed burgulars come and pose a threat, we will indeed use lethal force, however we will have cameras working.

(out of rp) I cannot do camera footage, upload speed is less than 1mbps grr 

In terms of the military weapons, if criminals have illegally obtained those weapons somehow, and we only have standard weapons to respond, it decreases the reliability and security provided by our services.

Gruppe Sechs do not and will not compromise the safety of our clients.

I am also looking for potential candidates for this corporate  however, I can handle the duties required until we are able to recruit Security Guards.

Also, Gruppe Sechs is not a newly established organization. This corporate was founded and under the lead of former Gruppe Sechs Director KhornateMonkey. I revived the business and have refined it to work with our limited resources, as well as to provide quality with credibility.

If it's useless to give an organization with only one member at the present, in the event we are required to use such force against criminals armed with military-grade weapons, we may as well go die in a hole, if not on the scene. I don't intend to be rude, but that's a logical statement.

In terms of not recruiting criminals, sure. That's a logical and fair request, and we'll ensure this.

As it's a new year for me to prove myself and my company, I'd like these rights, which would prove that we are capable and trustworthy.

I'd also like for the Judge to consider giving us our rights for a period of two months. We will show all proof of lethal force encounters until the expiry date arrives. By the expiry date, we surely would have given in all the proof of encounters.

If not, the decision won't be contradicted, however, it will affect the quality of our services in such events where criminals approach us with military-grade weapons.

Thank you.

Signed,
Steve McQueen
Gruppe Sechs Security Chief

[superh2o]

From:Courts of the State of Liberty
Frankfort Ave.
Liberty City, Algonquin


From Liberty State Supreme Judge of the Liberty State Supreme Court, Mane_Jugovic

To: Gruppe Sechs Security Chief Steve McQueen

Mr Steve McQueen, the right to defend your life is not something that's unique, it apples to all Citizens Of Liberty State.

As such, we have just explained to you how you can operate your company in legal way, so let me say this once again.

Term 1)
Using lethal force to protect property would be a criminal act.
Term 2)
The protection of property must be done with non lethal force unless confronted with lethal force.
Term 3)
This means, G6 can indeed take actions against aggressors who are threatening there lives, or lives of there client.
Term 4)
But G6 can't be the aggressor, you can't shoot/detain/maim/harm someone and claim they were a threat if they did nothing to in danger your lives or lives of your client/s.
Term 5)
G6 is obliged to notify police as soon as they encounter any danger, or when they face a situation where they have no right to act, lets say you are securing a party, you have no right to remove individuals by force, who have done no action against you or your clients, you must notify police and let them escort the subject off the property grounds.
Term 6)
All laws of the Liberty City apply to G6.
Term 7)
Legally speaking G6 is a private company and can only use civil laws of the Liberty State, you must use LCPD, for all actions of detaining/pursuit with force, you are at this point just a assistant to the LCPD, FBI and NOOSE.

Side note: The evidence that G6 can gather can be crucial to Court and LCPD pursuing those subjects, in that terms G6 can achieve a lot. *screens do the job fine, just videos are even better*

Once again i hope you understand that means exactly as court has presented it.

All terms must be followed by G6

As for robbers and such, G6 can engage in pursuit to locate buglers/robbers, but same terms apply as in guarding situations.

For guns motion, once again we need to point out Term 6, as they are military grade weapons, if G6 is possessing them without proper license G6 is conducting a criminal act, as we have said, until you prove your self, G6 is counted as civilian company, and all laws of the Liberty City apply to G6.

LCPD terms have been presented to a Jury, we will speak more about them once the Jury has done a review of them.

As for time you can start using this rights and conducting on the terms we have pointed out, that would be any time you wish, as this laws are the right of all citizens of Liberty City, no special rights are given, and as such you can use them as soon as you are ready.

That said, you have no right to use lethal force, you have right to defend your lives, from subjects who used lethal force on you.

Signed
The Liberty City Supreme Judge:
            Mane_Jugovic

[Kowalski.]

Thank you. The military-class weapons would make the job more efficient, however, we thank you for your verdict as it should suit us for now.

In terms of Term 4, if someone is refusing to exit property after security tells them to leave, are they allowed to brandish a pistol? A pistol seems reasonable to scare the person.

We are requesting a military-class weapon license, yes, for a civilian corporate, however, these weapons will be used by highly-trained staff in the industry, and we want to have the opportunity to prove ourselves with these weapons. If we can obtain a temporary license of two months for this, we can post every encounter where we use these weapons, and we can post strict guidelines on where to use them and when. If we can have a two-month license, we can post every encounter until the expiry date, and the court will make a further decision from there. It would be very convenient for us.

Thank you.
Gruppe 6

[superh2o]

From:Courts of the State of Liberty
Frankfort Ave.
Liberty City, Algonquin


From Liberty State Supreme Judge of the Liberty State Supreme Court, Mane_Jugovic

To: Gruppe Sechs Security Chief Steve McQueen

This are the major points in law that have a impact to G6 operating.

Act 2.7
A person who is not a Law Enforcer is not allowed to arrest another person.
A person who is not a Law Enforcer is not allowed to stop a crime by using force that could cause serious injuries or death to the perpetrator.

Act 2.12
Provocation is the act of attempting, by gestures, words or blows, to start hostilities.

Act 2.15
A person witnessing a crime must report this crime as soon as he deems it safe.
A person who possesses weapons without proper authorization or drugs must give up on them at the nearest police department

Act 3.10
Using weapons in order to cause harm or incite fear is prohibited.

Act 3.11
Threats to cause injury or death are prohibited.

Act 10.4
A person is not allowed to possess a weapon he is not authorised to possess by either the court or a LEO. Such person would be guilty of illegal possession of a firearm.

Act 10.7
Other hand held items that were not mentioned in earlier acts of part ten of the Criminal laws may still be classified as weapons if they were intentionally used to cause bodily harm.

Acts that are in favor of G6

Act 3.6
Unlawful assembly is an assembly of people obstructing a property owned by the government or citizens.
All streets and houses are government property unless properly stated otherwise.

Act 2.13
Trespassing, or the fact of entering a property without a proper authorisation, is prohibited.

Act 5.7
Causing disturbance on public places by shouting, fighting, screaming, swearing or using obscene language, being drunk or impede or loitering or molesting is a crime.

Act 5.8
A person who endangers the comfort, safety, property or lives of others is guilty of common nuisance.


As you can see you cant use Pistols to threaten citizens, also people under threat tend to act irrational, and you might have a real issue on your hands rather then a trespasser, and then G6 could be blamed for all the aftermath of the incident.

With Term 2)
The protection of property must be done with non lethal force unless confronted with lethal force.

As per Act 2.7 A person who is not a Law Enforcer is not allowed to stop a crime by using force that could cause serious injuries or death to the perpetrator.

The amount of force G6  can use is minimal, unless Term 2) starts applying.

As for gun license, we will need to wait for Jury to review it and give there opinion.

Signed
The Liberty City Supreme Judge:
            Mane_Jugovic

[Steven S.]

Liberty City Police Department Emerald St. Liberty City, Algonquin		National Office of Security Enforcement Bismarck Ave. Liberty City, Algonquin

TO:

Courts of the State of Liberty
Frankfort Ave.
Liberty City, Algonquin


DATE: 09/01/2018
FROM: LCPD Captain / N.O.O.S.E. CIU Inspector
TO: District judge's spokesman.


SUBJECT: ANSWER TO THE GIVEN STATEMENT

I see you don't agree with this, I wanted to let you prove yourself but you still seem to rush things. Alright, let me refresh your mind a bit.

I was NOT banned from LCPD or the FBI. I was only given a ban from VCPD, and it wasn't because of criminal concerns, if the Spokesman requires the details, they'll be sent in private.

*shows some sheets to the judge and the defendant*

Spoiler for National Office of Security Enforcement:

National Office of Security Enforcement Greetings, MrMeeses Your application for the National Office of Security Enforcement has been rejected. Unfortunately, the National Office of Security Enforcement has decided to reject your application for our organisation. Refer to the information below to learn further details: Unsuitable yet for the division. Banned from the server.                   Please file another application after: You hereby exceeded the limit of 2 applications. You aren't able to submit a new one (either TRU or CIU) untill the NOOSE Command staff deems you are ready to do so. Signed by, Steven Seagal N.O.O.S.E. CIU Inspector 22-07-2017

Defendant was given a chance to prove himself, but failed again.

Spoiler for Vice City Police Department:

Nah, f**k it.

We gave you enough chances. You do not improve, you repeat same mistakes over and over again and now you went and think that communication does not flow between the departments? Come the f**k on.

Session #1: Procedures and Regulations
One of the regulations say rather clearly; "You must act professional at all times". You FAILED this on so many levels I can't even begin to describe it.

Consider this application as successfully failed one, as per Huntsman's signature, and you're not to re-apply before 2019. This application ban will not be lifted.

Bye.

Spoiler for Federal Bureau of Investigations (IV:MP Division).:

This is a roleplay group but we take things seriously and don't tolerate bullshit. You need time to grow up and mature. I'm not going to put a time limit on re-applying, but Kessu's recommendation seems fair. I suggest you start doing the things that you say you are going to do and ffs stop with the rankhunting and just be yourself.

Only a ban right?
Why should we grant a dangerous license to someone who is banned from three law enforcement agencies? We don't care if the reason is not related to criminal matters. They are related to your immaturity and someone who is defined as this last shouldn't obtain a license to hold a military class weapon.

We are requesting a military-class weapon license, yes, for a civilian corporate, however, these weapons will be used by highly-trained staff in the industry, and we want to have the opportunity to prove ourselves with these weapons. If we can obtain a temporary license of two months for this, we can post every encounter where we use these weapons, and we can post strict guidelines on where to use them and when. If we can have a two-month license, we can post every encounter until the expiry date, and the court will make a further decision from there. It would be very convenient for us.

he military-class weapons would make the job more efficient

Why do you urgently need them? Why should a security company hold military class weapons? You pretend to be it's chief when you don't even know what's a security company. A security company offers primary defense while waiting the police to arrive. A security company is not a law enforcement agency, you can't arrest/detain a civillian. So you are a guard that warns the police when a threat's shown.


You would like to prove yourself? I'm more than happy but you should begin first without the license, and if we see the organisation is not like the thousand others, we might give a green light to the license. Terms remain the same above, you have everything to run your organisation normally. LCPD rejects the demand and opposes it.






Signed,

Steven Seagal
LCPD Captain
N.O.O.S.E. CIU Inspector

[superh2o]

From:Courts of the State of Liberty
Frankfort Ave.
Liberty City, Algonquin


Order in the courtroom, please gentlemen behave your self's.

The terms of LCPD are not questioned by court, i see no reason to go further into the terms, or argue about details.

The Jury will have the final word about the LCPD terms, the court thinks that the rights and obligations of G6 have been set and court is open to all questions from G6, but only questions, no arguing with LCPD terms will be allowed.
LCPD is a serious organisation that has strong cooperation with the court, we will not question there reasons, unless there is evidence that claims other wise, in that case make a appeal to the judge with the same. *forum pm me or senate*

Signed
The Liberty City Supreme Judge:
            Mane_Jugovic

[Steven S.]

Misunderstood, sorry. Message deleted.

[Kowalski.]

Why should we grant a dangerous license to someone who is banned from three law enforcement agencies? We don't care if the reason is not related to criminal matters. They are related to your immaturity and someone who is defined as this last shouldn't obtain a license to hold a military class weapon.

I have a question. What does this have to do with a military-class weapon license? It's not a criminal concern that got me denied. I wasn't banned from the LCPD or the FBI as you can clearly read in the FBI application. VCPD banned me, yes.

However, what does this have to do with a license? My VCPD ban doesn't change my capabilities, physical, mental and it also doesn't change my intentions, especially as the ban wasn't at all related to crime.

[superh2o]

Please read two posts above yours, i will not tolerate arguing in this topic, take what you got to pms.

I already stated jury will decide about a trial license, once you cross that bridge worry about a permanent one.

You can post any questions that have to do with terms and situations that G6 can encounter and you have doubts how to react.
Other then that its court and jury who ask the questions and ask for explanations.

[Kowalski.]

Please read two posts above yours, i will not tolerate arguing in this topic, take what you got to pms.

I already stated jury will decide about a trial license, once you cross that bridge worry about a permanent one.

You can post any questions that have to do with terms and situations that G6 can encounter and you have doubts how to react.
Other then that its court and jury who ask the questions and ask for explanations.

I have some enquiries.

1. If we're on a Security Detail, and we tell someone to get off the property, we can threaten to dial police if they don't comply, yes?

2.

The evidence that G6 can gather can be crucial to Court and LCPD pursuing those subjects, in that terms G6 can achieve a lot. *screens do the job fine, just videos are even better*

We'd love to provide such services, how can we make this possible?

3. Are we authorised to engage using lethal force in the event that an unrelated person's life is in danger? E.G. A police shootout or people with guns threatening a civilian

4. As you're a part of the Lucchese, would you like to hire Gruppe Sechs Security for your bank? We can make a contract, we tried to provide Badboy Bank but he declined claiming that he doesn't need security because "he's Badboydhia"

Anyway, here is a deal we can work out, if you would like to test our services.

We receive payment with the following rates:
Cash Delivery: $2,000 for amounts below $100,000 to $3,500 for amounts exceeding $100,000
Item Transportation - $250-$1,500 depending on the amount and weight of the items being transported.

We would like a weekly cut of $2,500, in order to build funds for our corporate to invest in resources, and for us to constantly supply Lucchese with these services.

We are, however, willing to provide a 1 week trial.

Waiting for your decision.

Thank you.

Signed by,
Steve McQueen
Gruppe Sechs Security Chief