Concept of NPC RP.

[Pedro.]

Hey everyone.

So basicly today I was warned by =BS=Denzel because I didn't comply with FBI's new concept of NPC RolePlay.

I was detained by the FBI for cooking meth, and due to an explosion and also due to them smashing my head against the wall I was injured and bleeding intesivly RPly, instead of roleplaying some basic medic stuff to cure me or whatsoever I'll show you what happened:

[15:11:59] Pedro_Gvardia(22) barely breathes.
[15:12:01] Pedro_Gvardia(22) says: Ugh-..
[15:12:49] Pedro_Gvardia(22) turns around, keeping his chest turned to the ceiling.
[15:13:01] Pedro_Gvardia(22) inhales deeply.
[15:13:20] The FBI doctor would arrive to the interrogation room. (Claudia_Martinez(1))
[15:13:39] where is he (Pedro_Gvardia(22))
[15:13:44] He would observe Pedro's injures, and make him a treatment. (Claudia_Martinez(1))
[15:13:51] wtf is that  (Pedro_Gvardia(22))
[15:13:53] Imagine there's a Doctor in there, RPly. (Sadusky(21))
[15:13:57] what  (Pedro_Gvardia(22))
[15:14:00] fuck no lol (Pedro_Gvardia(22))
[15:14:04] That's RP. (Claudia_Martinez(1))
[15:14:10] That's RP. (Sadusky(21))
[15:14:12] no, thats not RP creating characters (Pedro_Gvardia(22))
[15:14:18] thats powergaming (Pedro_Gvardia(22))
[15:14:18] That's NPC. (Claudia_Martinez(1))
[15:14:22] LOL (Claudia_Martinez(1))
[15:14:25] NPCs dont roleplay (Pedro_Gvardia(22))
[15:14:40] NPCs are bots (Pedro_Gvardia(22))
[15:14:45] bots dont roleplay (Pedro_Gvardia(22))
[15:14:47] That's NPC RP . . . . (Claudia_Martinez(1))
[15:14:51] lol wtf' (Pedro_Gvardia(22))


I'd like to know everyone's opinion on this and since when does this exist... I'm really amazed and will probably create an army of NPC RolePlayers to protect my weed fields and such.

[Afyea]

If you get injured, you should indeed get a medic for the rp, i assume it isn't that hard..

[JackDockz]

Yeah you can ask over /p for a medic. Im pretty sure someone would volunteer unless FBI dont want peopld in their HQ and so, FBI Staff should get medic thing done outside.

[Miki.]

I mean on the one hand this helps the scene progress with out stopping (since there are barely medics around specialy with current activity ) yet this is something new, I'm just confused.

[Vitorrio]

Well, they could’ve waited for a medic. There is practically no excuse here, since SA:MP has 200 player slots, so, a medic could’ve been asked to join in. Role-playing with imaginary characters isn’t illegal, though. It can be used as a last resort, when there is a lack of players available willing to join a roleplay situation (for example, that can happen a lot in a server with only 32 player slots/IV:MP) or if both parties would want to rush the roleplay because they might have something unplanned or might not have much time left.
Sadly, this was a lazy move pulled by those FBI members. Probably they could stick around some more experienced role-players to learn some new things.

[JackDockz]

I do it on cop duty and i am pretty sure I will get in trouble

[Shultz]

Haha better than chester Campbell's high quality Rex roleplay. An imaginary dog that can kill armies and fuck everyone on just a whistle.

[JackDockz]

The problem is that the dog is not available as a player so we needa rp that.
Medics are available as players so are preferred none npc.

[Darty]

I mean on the one hand this helps the scene progress with out stopping (since there are barely medics around specialy with current activity ).

[JackDockz]

Ever tried using /p to call rperz?

[Brian]

NPC RP or also known as 3rd party role play, or generally the usage of /do is accept not only on Argonath but on several high role play servers too, it is used. While we do have a medic system, not at all times is one available, and that doesn't mean role play has to cut off, while I do disagree with the way the role play was done (2 lines of information is just terrible, if you want to role play an NPC do it properly, and actually provide someone with medical role play.)

It is not in fact against the rules to role play someone as a 3rd party, or NPC role play, role play something not actually there but available to increase general atmospheric role play, (I.E. RP a dog, cars passing by, a crowd, something that could give your current situation more 'meaning'.) which in this case was a 'FBI Doctor'.

I'll make sure to chat with the people that were involved in this situation, and get back to you with more information soon.


TLDR;

NPC or 3rd party role play is permitted but should be role played properly, if you wish to NPC role play a medic since there's none currently on duty, actually give the other party a chance to role play too, either role play that you are temporarily the medic and approach the suspect in this case, and allow him to return role play, or role play your interactions properly in /do to ensure the other party actually is able to interact too, rather than force something up on him.

What is shown in the chat logs above is not permitted, since there's little to no role play seen at all.

[Julio.]

I would argue that simulating injuries that extend so far as to requiring immediately medical assistance, when you know there are no available medics online could also be "metagaming" by definition, though this terminology isn't strictly encouraged or used here.

RP is meant to be fun and somewhat realistic. Using /em to simulate an NPC medic is no less realistic within the bounds of roleplay than a cop who suddenly turns out to have a degree in medicine and is a skilled paramedic.

People stick to these "rigid" rules to serve their own intention. Had you have wanted to rush away then I'm sure this topic wouldn't have been created and you'd have been as happy as a pig in it's own s***.

If you want to RP with lots of different people, then you really need to extend the definition in your own mind in my opinion.

Medic RP is boring to a lot of people. If they're not a medic, and there are no other medics available. Don't force it. If you strictly want to argue about these "powergaming" and "metagaming" concepts, then even calling a medic in /p would be incorrect. Another example of people using a "hard-line" to benefit their own agenda.

[Arslan]

Haha better than chester Campbell's high quality Rex roleplay. An imaginary dog that can kill armies and fuck everyone on just a whistle.

made my day 

Last I remember FBI agents used to be trained with basic first aid knowledge to handle situations like this, don't know about now though. I think your warning is completely wrong though and you're not in the wrong in any way for reasons Julio already stated.

[Jeremy.]

So basically FBI agents did a huge mistake by doing poor roleplay and as if that wasn't enough, their leader which is a staff member, punished a "criminal" because his people barely showed roleplay purposes.

The community's mentality of "cops are completely innocent" and "criminals are always guilty" should be erased, in my opinion.

[Ben.]

That's not power-gaming, beyond potentially the "making him a treatment".

To he honest, what? I mean seriously...you clearly had an agenda of your own which is evidenced by deciding to put it on here.