taser usage clarification

[Jeremy.]

[20:47:16] JoshThePenguin(1) has unholstered their taser.
[20:47:17] Bogdan_Gvardia(2) got hit in their body armour by the taser of JoshThePenguin(1).

[20:48:13] JoshThePenguin: (1) Who says we can't shoot an armed suspect with a taser, you weren't shooting when I shot
[20:48:16] JoshThePenguin: (1) Be happy I hit your vest
[20:48:21] JoshThePenguin{909090}: (1) Don't act all cool and shit against me
[20:48:26] Bogdan_Gvardia: (2) i was holding a deagle in my hand
[20:48:34] JoshThePenguin{909090}: (1) That still gives me the right to tase you
[20:48:38] Bogdan_Gvardia{909090}: (2) nope
[20:48:40] JoshThePenguin{909090}: (1) I just cannot tase you in an active shootout
[20:48:42] Bogdan_Gvardia{909090}: (2) go read sapd regulations lol
[20:48:47] JoshThePenguin{909090}: (1) Dude, stop smartassing.
[20:48:50] A staff member has muted you from all chat functions.
[20:48:53] You have been muted from all chats temporarily.
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[20:59:43] Staff message from JoshThePenguin(11): Don't make up your own server rules or SAPD regulations, thank you.
[21:00:07] PM to JoshThePenguin(11): I'm not making anything on my own, I stated the SAPD regulation itself.
[21:00:28] PM to JoshThePenguin(11): Cops are not allowed to shoot a suspect in combat or while holding a gun in their hand.
[21:00:51] PM from JoshThePenguin(11): We aren't allowed to tase suspects who are actively shooting, that's a server rule to begin with.
[21:01:18] PM from JoshThePenguin(11): Besides that, we're permitted to tase anyone who holds a gun or whatever.
[21:01:21] PM from JoshThePenguin(11): As long as he's not shooting.
[21:01:32] PM from JoshThePenguin(11): if you're not the cop here, stop smartassing and stop making shit up.








Okay, totally ignoring the part while it was actually an active shootout and we were both exchanging fires, while I was shooting with deagle he was shooting with taser. He totally denied that but once I stepped out of my vehicle I was holding my deagle in my hand and trying to find a place where I could open fire on police officers. My point is, I was clearly holding my deagle in my hand the entire time, I've tried to explain that politely to JoshThePenguin admin and suddenly I turned out "smartassing" muted then "smartassing and stop making shit up".

Here you go, mister admen:

The Taser can't be used if:

- The suspect is wielding any type weapon.(firearms and sharp objects)

If you ever wonder why the playerbase is decreasing, this might be one of the reasons. Ignoring the fact that he's administrator, he is also a Senior Officer which lowers the possibility of him doing an unwanted mistake. Now I need someone to clarrify this properly since the SAPD regulations are "hidden". Thanks.

[Kacper_Gorski]

You can not taser a player that is actively shooting.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=100219.msg1605344#msg1605344

Got it from that

[Hevar.]

doesn't it require RP to taze? like you must taze it rply ?

[Younes]

You can not taser a player that is actively shooting.

[Sawyer]

Taser is meant to be used for suspects who fail to comply or simply resist in surrendering.
There are also certain facts about its usage that are in the SAPD rulebooks.

[Arslan]

From what I remember you can't shoot a taser at someone with a gun showing.

[Bruce.]

[20:48:13] JoshThePenguin: (1) Who says we can't shoot an armed suspect with a taser, you weren't shooting when I shot
[20:48:16] JoshThePenguin: (1) Be happy I hit your vest

Of course you cannot do it. It is against the server rules. Even if he is holding a weapon and not using it.

[Arslan]

This is a very old rule to be honest. It came soon after taser. All admins should read rules.

[Bruce.]

Why even have a taser out when someone has a weapon out. Like Charles said, Taser is meant to be used on un-armed suspects who are either not complying or the ones running away on foot.

[TheGreasyChopper]

 Welp, not complying and having your hands up still means you get tased nowadays, so I don't see where the problem is. 

[Khm]

[20:48:13] JoshThePenguin: (1) Who says we can't shoot an armed suspect with a taser, you weren't shooting when I shot
[20:48:16] JoshThePenguin: (1) Be happy I hit your vest

Of course you cannot do it. It is against the server rules. Even if he is holding a weapon and not using it.

The server rule book doesn't state holding a weapon but it states active shootouts. However SAPD regulations, that's something I don't have that much of idea about.

[Bruce.]

Well this one is on SAPD's student book. Can't quote it with the link as it is a locked topic.

In case they begin to run away, you should attempt to tase them, while taking into account the surroundings as well as the circumstances at hand. For example, if they draw a firearm, do not use the taser as it is dangerous, you must unholster your service firearm. If you decide to tase them, you must verbally state your intention to prevent the suspect being tased by multiple officers, which is also lethally dangerous.

It is as well common sense, why would you even use a taser when someone has a shotgun or a SMG on his hand. Use the duty weapon and ask for compliance.

[Kacper_Gorski]

Well, then it's an SAPD matter, not an Administrative matter, right?

[Khm]

Well, then it's an SAPD matter, not an Administrative matter, right?

Pretty much.

[.Mario.]

I love how you bitch on forum for anything that happens to you. Is this the way you have found justification? Suck it up and deal with it.