[SA;MP] 3 hour gang rule

[Kacper_Gorski]

So much salt

[James]

So much salt

salt of its own

[ImamRasyid]

So much salt

makes it spicy

[James]

So much salt

makes it spicy

do u wanna get reported, altobello lucianoT

[Stivi]

It's not about time limits in any way, if one side dies the reason and the war should end right there every attack should have a reason behind it.
Yes if one side wasn't entirely killed then the left overs can go and avenge if they fail - that's it no one left for this reason to continue.
Often what happens is one shoot out occurs and one side dies, but yet has people that were not logged that later go to avenge finding a twisted way to get informed RPly about the death of the mates and then it goes around again - they come avenge and kill the other group yet the other one has "left overs too"
and this circle never ends leave your OOC agenda and hate out and stay with in rules and I promise you'll enjoy the game much more.

Yes the circle does end, three hours after the first shootout happens. That's when the circle ends. You have three hours to avenge your fallen beloved ones or whatever the fuck died. But apparently the rule is "you can return after three hours" which is dumb as shit, and should be EXPLAINED and then people not realizing it should be PUNISHED. It's a dictatorship, right?

[Miki.]

Yes the circle does end, three hours after the first shootout happens. That's when the circle ends. You have three hours to avenge your fallen beloved ones or whatever the fuck died. But apparently the rule is "you can return after three hours" which is dumb as shit, and should be EXPLAINED and then people not realizing it should be PUNISHED. It's a dictatorship, right?

Thing is it's theoretically supposed to end, that's far from reality that's not what is happening IG manny issues appear around it.
Rather the first group hunts every person IG that is connected some how to the group they have beef with which is entirely ridiculous and weird.
and overall the rule is you can return after three hours but with a solid reason I believe, after you lost/won the scenario before things reset you need a proper reason you'd get your hands dirty for again-.. you need a reason to interact with the other group in such manner again.

I mean rule is quite clear to me, at least I suppose. 

[ImamRasyid]

So much salt

makes it spicy

do u wanna get reported, altobello lucianoT

No sir, apologise me!

[Stivi]

Thing is it's theoretically supposed to end, that's far from reality that's not what is happening IG manny issues appear around it.

I live in Albania, blood feuds are still common and rarely end. And this isn't real life.

Rather the first group hunts every person IG that is connected some how to the group they have beef with which is entirely ridiculous and weird.

True, that is up to admins to determine a proper cause to start this hunting. I'd love me some group war rules but then we'd have to implement a lot of other things. So, this is the situation we're facing, like it or not.

and overall the rule is you can return after three hours but with a solid reason I believe, after you lost/won the scenario before things reset you need a proper reason you'd get your hands dirty for again-.. you need a reason to interact with the other group in such manner again.

No, that's not what the rule says. The rule says you can counterattack/retaliate/take revenge/punish the group WITHIN 3 hours. I don't know what rule you read but returning after death is not allowed and has never been, so there's no point in discussing the return, no matter what you think the rule says. And yes, I read the bit where you say a solid reason. What's a solid reason? A car accident, aiming, insults, all sorts of provocative behaviour can lead to a death of a member, and then the shitstorm starts. You know, I also kill people who refuse to RP, and admins accept that reason. I just straight up blast them, if they're not here to RP then what's the point in making the RP enjoyable if I'm gonna kill the guy anyway?

I mean rule is quite clear to me, at least I suppose.

Is it now?

[LeoSforza]

It doesnt matter if you do it 24 hours .. 5 hours or 3 hours.. they will keep ' crying ' if you return 5 mins early.. will be the same thing.. just time will get increased.

[Andeey]

Let me make it clear, Returning after death and/or Returning to the person that killed you in hopes of revenge has and will never be allowed, Once you die it's over, The whole scenario is done for.

Hunting down a player because they killed you the other hour/day/week is never allowed and will result in harsh punishment.

[Miki.]

I live in Albania, blood feuds are still common and rarely end. And this isn't real life.

I didn't mean reality by real life, wrong phrasing.

True, that is up to admins to determine a proper cause to start this hunting. I'd love me some group war rules but then we'd have to implement a lot of other things. So, this is the situation we're facing, like it or not.

You're right on that but many people have their gameplay ruined and it's up to the players to understand when they cross the boundaries or not.
Admins can't sit and babysit every situation and they are not there for that as well.

No, that's not what the rule says. The rule says you can counterattack/retaliate/take revenge/punish the group WITHIN 3 hours. I don't know what rule you read but returning after death is not allowed and has never been, so there's no point in discussing the return, no matter what you think the rule says.

I know it's not allowed, but lets face it the on going wars and hunting have no proper reasons behind it every time you question these cases it's 'they killed us before ' , I mean seriously these hunts go on the same group/person 3-4 times a day and trust me they don't want to give the hunter reasons instead people are getting hunted IG and have their whole gameplay ruined while the circle doesn't stop because there are no reasons.

And yes, I read the bit where you say a solid reason. What's a solid reason? A car accident, aiming, insults, all sorts of provocative behaviour can lead to a death of a member, and then the shitstorm starts.

Yes these are all valid reasons, but does it really happen? I mean if the groups had proper reasons for 24/7 hunts every time the 3 hour rules stops then It'd be fine by me but these hunts are circling around with out reasoning all the time or rather the other group provokes and pushes the enemy group to give them reasons for the hunt you can't just go around provoking all the time untill you get provoked back and then kill a group for that. many situations are going on like this the whole idea of roleplay is to be two sided and not forced into scenes.

I also kill people who refuse to RP, and admins accept that reason. I just straight up blast them, if they're not here to RP then what's the point in making the RP enjoyable if I'm gonna kill the guy anyway?

That's how you deal with such stuff, I just avoid going into interactions into such people and if in some case they came to interact with me I'm not lowering my standards just because this person tends to end everything with in a seconds you can't just go around ending the roleplay in blast and then saying the other person isn't roleplaying because you just ended the scene you can never know what the other person was planing. after all this is a roleplay server and people who aren't here to RP will be gone sooner or later. the point of the server is to have interactions with other parties/people and have fun instead of pushing people to go into wars and forcing and manipulating people into twisting scenarios into your way - none of the things above were pointed to any one or any group that's just stuff you can see around the server and admins/staff can't be blamed for that they can't do much in response to such things.

[Mehmet]

it would be nice with a timer after death, like it should be a cmd with /death

and you can see how long you been alive since last death

I completely agree with this

[Stivi]

Let me make it clear, Returning after death and/or Returning to the person that killed you in hopes of revenge has and will never be allowed, Once you die it's over, The whole scenario is done for.

Hunting down a player because they killed you the other hour/day/week is never allowed and will result in harsh punishment.

The rule says you can retaliate within three hours(not the person who died). But, if we were to implement some metagame rules, not necessarily disallowing metagame, but making it so that if you don't know a certain group killed one of your own, without proper roleplay, then the retaliate part would be harder, or?

I live in Albania, blood feuds are still common and rarely end. And this isn't real life.

I didn't mean reality by real life, wrong phrasing.

True, that is up to admins to determine a proper cause to start this hunting. I'd love me some group war rules but then we'd have to implement a lot of other things. So, this is the situation we're facing, like it or not.

You're right on that but many people have their gameplay ruined and it's up to the players to understand when they cross the boundaries or not.
Admins can't sit and babysit every situation and they are not there for that as well.

No, that's not what the rule says. The rule says you can counterattack/retaliate/take revenge/punish the group WITHIN 3 hours. I don't know what rule you read but returning after death is not allowed and has never been, so there's no point in discussing the return, no matter what you think the rule says.

I know it's not allowed, but lets face it the on going wars and hunting have no proper reasons behind it every time you question these cases it's 'they killed us before ' , I mean seriously these hunts go on the same group/person 3-4 times a day and trust me they don't want to give the hunter reasons instead people are getting hunted IG and have their whole gameplay ruined while the circle doesn't stop because there are no reasons.

And yes, I read the bit where you say a solid reason. What's a solid reason? A car accident, aiming, insults, all sorts of provocative behaviour can lead to a death of a member, and then the shitstorm starts.

Yes these are all valid reasons, but does it really happen? I mean if the groups had proper reasons for 24/7 hunts every time the 3 hour rules stops then It'd be fine by me but these hunts are circling around with out reasoning all the time or rather the other group provokes and pushes the enemy group to give them reasons for the hunt you can't just go around provoking all the time untill you get provoked back and then kill a group for that. many situations are going on like this the whole idea of roleplay is to be two sided and not forced into scenes.

I also kill people who refuse to RP, and admins accept that reason. I just straight up blast them, if they're not here to RP then what's the point in making the RP enjoyable if I'm gonna kill the guy anyway?

That's how you deal with such stuff, I just avoid going into interactions into such people and if in some case they came to interact with me I'm not lowering my standards just because this person tends to end everything with in a seconds you can't just go around ending the roleplay in blast and then saying the other person isn't roleplaying because you just ended the scene you can never know what the other person was planing. after all this is a roleplay server and people who aren't here to RP will be gone sooner or later. the point of the server is to have interactions with other parties/people and have fun instead of pushing people to go into wars and forcing and manipulating people into twisting scenarios into your way - none of the things above were pointed to any one or any group that's just stuff you can see around the server and admins/staff can't be blamed for that they can't do much in response to such things.

Up to the players? Really now? You trust that the players in this community know boundaries?

Yes, but the reasoning is within the rules and allowed. You have to change the rules/guidelines for it.


Yes, it does really happen, have you never been lagrammed by a group before? Called gay, a bitch or old man, or something of sort? Or is it my group getting all these things. You want it to end? You need players to learn when to give leash. A guy died because he didn't man up to his words? Big deal. But of course that's rare so we're at this situation again and again.

Nah, you have 7 guys pointing a gun at you and you're gonna say "suck my dick gvardia 0 rp all u do is shoot", I will kill you, then go to the nearest hospital and kill you again, until you /q the game. Not you personally though.

[Volcom]

Let me make it clear, Returning after death and/or Returning to the person that killed you in hopes of revenge has and will never be allowed, Once you die it's over, The whole scenario is done for.

Hunting down a player because they killed you the other hour/day/week is never allowed and will result in harsh punishment.

Ok i roleplay with you today and you kill me, i can not roleplay ever again with you if the scenario ends me killing you rofl.

[Miki.]

Yes, it does really happen, have you never been lagrammed by a group before? Called gay, a bitch or old man, or something of sort? Or is it my group getting all these things. You want it to end? You need players to learn when to give leash. A guy died because he didn't man up to his words? Big deal. But of course that's rare so we're at this situation again and again.

Nah, you have 7 guys pointing a gun at you and you're gonna say "suck my dick gvardia 0 rp all u do is shoot", I will kill you, then go to the nearest hospital and kill you again, until you /q the game. Not you personally though.

Yeah sadly I can see that happening, I get your point and I've passed this many times myself.
Overall there is a huge play to win mentality IG rather if we admit it or not, it's all about the roleplay level and the amount of effort parties are willing to take in interactions. where are the days I used to love getting kidnaped? I never wanted being dominated RPly but when ever it happened I gave all my efforts into RPing back and received it from the dominant party in the scenario  I miss these times.