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[Whiteman]

Get a fucking grip or get the fuck out.

I think everyone's already left.

[Huntsman]

Yeah well no wonder SAMP's having problems, with crybabies like you making up the majority of the community.

[Legolas]

Problem in all of this, that players received allot of scripts for gaming. Instead of RP it by /me command. And everybody forget (in my opinion ofc) what RP stands for. I respect scripters work and their patience, mappers also as-well.
I was mapper in past. The game became next job and duty. For players, scripters, mappers ending on admins. Games are for fun... aren't they? Most Argonath members left just because of other members, not administration or lack of scripts. Aggression on forum and server. Pointles.

I could say many mistakes that players made, but what is the point?  If someone really care about SAMP, you will see scripts, if not...well that's called life.

In end its funny for me, that... drug script was changed and people left. Like there was nothing to do on server. End of world...we cant make drugs no more...

[Bennzy]

It's not like that, players left because the changers(who change in scripts) suddemly made cops more over powered. I heard meth price used to be 50p/g but people were still playing why? because meth first price was 50. the changers ruined it and made it 100+, it's because of the changers that players addicted to METH, okay you made them addicted, then why to ruin the players fun now? because suddenly you reaslised that METH price is too over powered? you should calculate that before when you are increasing it. The changers should need to make something which let players USE alot of money so the money balance should be balanced.

And tell me how will you react if you get 100$ pocket money on daily basis and suddenly it decreases to 10$?

[AK47]

And tell me how will you react if you get 100$ pocket money on daily basis and suddenly it decreases to 10$?

Probably upset at first, then I will adapt and not cry about it. Life isn’t fair.

[Legolas]

70% of server was drug dealing, 25% cops trying deal with drug dealers, 5% other people doing RP different that drugs or cops.  95% of server was busy around drugs, and at some point in this madness passed one point. Mass shotouts, DM etc...moans about lack of RP. So administration changed drug scripts in hope, that players will do other activities than drug dealing. Reaction was different. People left, because they didn't know what to do on Argonath. Drug script was only thin they knew. It was taken from them...

You don't belive ma about this drug script addiction, madness? Here is example from yesterday.
3 players online... one of them was working on weed. Empty server and he still farm weed for money, that nobody cares. Instead of having fun, he farm weed on empty server.

If i ask you, what you did in past year... I'm sure i will heard: police officer or mafia member, witch equals drug dealing (from what i remember mafia did only this). 

[Bennzy]

I was drug dealing last year(Not farming, only buying) and was trying to do something cool in the server with a family name "Trapani", which got hated by 50percent + ACTIVE members, why? IDK im not sure but i think because it was abit rich then the other new Mafias. The family got trolled alot, anyone who remembers that family, you can ask him about that, he'll say for sure "Most trolled family of argonath history" and in last i lost hope and closed it. Then i realised how people of argonath would be against you if you'll try to do something new.

[William Carter]

It's not like that, players left because the changers(who change in scripts) suddemly made cops more over powered. I heard meth price used to be 50p/g but people were still playing why? because meth first price was 50. the changers ruined it and made it 100+, it's because of the changers that players addicted to METH, okay you made them addicted, then why to ruin the players fun now? because suddenly you reaslised that METH price is too over powered? you should calculate that before when you are increasing it. The changers should need to make something which let players USE alot of money so the money balance should be balanced.

And tell me how will you react if you get 100$ pocket money on daily basis and suddenly it decreases to 10$?

People started to focus more about money instead of a role play, months ago, I caught meth cooker as soon as he saw me approaching, he jumped to the water he choosed 'hey he come take my drugs I go and kill my self so I don't lose them' this happened many times, many players park there helicopter nearby and cook so they escape, it killed the rp. Still remove things that player wan't is wrong though. Then recently saw a new player doing the same..

[Legolas]

Then i realised how people of argonath would be against you if you'll try to do something new.

People started to focus more about money instead of a role play, months ago.

All i can say is that i agree with you both on this point 

[AK47]

"Most trolled family of argonath history"

Pretty sure that's scotto :p

[Younes]

Players never left because of drugs prices. If you left because of it, then say "I left because of drug prices". Don't use everyone's name on your own statement.

The problem isn't in drug prices. The problem is in overall performance of the server. It is correct that roleplay can be done only by /me and /do(/em), but you also would need more functions which our server heavily lacks or have incomplete or totally screwed from it's base. Compare the server to other stable servers with 50-500 playerbase and you'll know where the issue is. It's not in drug prices, it's not in not willing to roleplay.

[Legolas]

If you ask me... i never had opportunity to visit other servers than Argonath (except before Argo). So i cant compare this. But if you ask me about scripted commands... well in age of dinosaurs in MTA:VC we had commands to RP, that you could count in both hands. Everyone was having same fun.  Now after 10 years as new member or old player (like me) with huge brake. You need to download "Argonath Encyclopedia of Commands". That scares newcomers in my opinion. Older people like me, refuse to play... because old people want to have simple fun instead learning how fly a real space ship "step by step". 

edit:
...it does not mean i don't like all scripted commands, some are really cool

[TedHamilton]

If you ask me... i never had opportunity to visit other servers than Argonath (except before Argo). So i cant compare this. But if you ask me about scripted commands... well in age of dinosaurs in MTA:VC we had commands to RP, that you could count in both hands. Everyone was having same fun.  Now after 10 years as new member or old player (like me) with huge brake. You need to download "Argonath Encyclopedia of Commands". That scares newcomers in my opinion. Older people like me, refuse to play... because old people want to have simple fun instead learning how fly a real space ship "step by step". 

edit:
...it does not mean i don't like all scripted commands, some are really cool

I said the same thing a few days ago when I mentioned the example of money transactions. I said that withdrawing money is better with /withdraw amount instead of having to create a bank account and go through a long list of commands, and some people accused me of being lazy and complaining about a 'simple' script. I could get along with it myself, but it is discouraging for new players.

[Andeey]

The amount of players that only care about money vastly outnumbers the players who care about quality roleplay.

You can claim that the scripters are the ones who made you "addicted" to meth but no, Just no.. Your own greed and intent to own everything in sight made you "addicted"

There is a handful of players complaining about there not being enough scripts.. Which is just an excuse for something deeper than "lack of scripts" because we have fully functioning jobs that people can complete and work on.  So many people just cook meth 24/7 and once confronted by players/cops they just suicide and blame the people coming after them because they're "targeting" them.

Sure.. There's room for more scripts/better scripts but people need to just take a look at what they're doing when ingame once in a while and see they're just doing the same activities day after day, No wonder you get bored and blame scripters for it.

Focus more on roleplay rather then personal gains and i promise you will realise what a great server you have here.

Another note: Don't play the game to please others, Play the game so you can enjoy it and bring enjoyment to those around you, Even if that may be trying to please managers/Arun to get your group recognized, Just play your game the way you want to play it, If you're doing something wrong im sure you will be told what that is.

During my time as manager i saw too many people trying to please people that is came off as asslicking more than "doing the right thing" - Keep your intentions clean and clean.

[Kostas]

People started to focus more about money instead of a role play, months ago,

Make that years... everyone is dead rich IG... It has no point having money... no one will actually do shit for money... actual RP shit...