Substantial confrontation of SA:MP's current problem or nothing.

[Miki.]

Lets keep making these topics, lets keep talking the same shit over and over, blaming the same people over and over. Guess what - nothing will change.
Stuff will change If people go ingame, roleplay or do whatever they feel like whats within the limits of rules and enjoy themselves. If others see people doing that, they will eventually join in and that helps/motivates developers to work on their objectives quicker perhaps. Im not saying they're doing it slow right now or anything, but they see Its worth of doing.

I agree these topics aren't contributing in a any way yet lets not forget the problem isn't that players aren't willing to log in and play, they have a reason not to log in if it was that easy as " lets all login and RP then everyone will come" I stop my self from logging in because I'm informed about the absurd problems and around 25 more guys I know have the same issue it has nothing to do with people being dis-motivated to log in.
Don't forget the other server took the chance just because players left for a reason they didn't prefer it they just found it as an escape room and something a like, but they left in the first place for reasons.

[Khm]

We are the people who constitute this community, this enviroment. You didn't join this community because you had high hopes for HQ's management, but because you found interest in the people in it.

The times and generation have changed from way back and the community leaders way back have had a better grip into the community than now.

Still, who's fault is it isn't the problem, but for the simple reason that Community can exist without Argonath, but not vice versa, there have to be some changes from the heads of the server or high ranks. At the same time, for the sake of the community,for the people that you had fun with , players should try too fixing this problem, if they can clear to themselves if their intent to help the fix of this problem is bigger than their ego.

Who's fault is known and the problem is also known but the failure to acknowledge these things because of egoistic problems won't give the motivation for the players to come back and to actually try to help fix things because they know they will be fucked over. People going IG doing the same thing over and over will get them bored, they will eventually leave after 1 week max just like what happened the past few weeks. The same people that say we should go IG aren't even going IG and are actively playing Mudoo, LSRP and some other random servers. People will only change when the heads change, have you ever seen a country where people changed for their own country? It's always the government heads that get changed by either being voted out or a revolt because the people will never do bad to their country/community as long as they are living/playing freely and normally without being bothered, the criminals/trolls are exceptions of course.
Keep in mind that people are willing to help but they are fed up from seeing the same empty promises over and over and they are fed from the heads not admitting their mistakes when they do one while if they do a simple mistake they get fucked over and at some cases they get written on a blacklist because of one of the head's agenda.

[Thomas_A]

The same people that say we should go IG aren't even going IG and are actively playing Mudoo, LSRP and some other random servers.

Pretty sure you're one of them.

Lets keep making these topics, lets keep talking the same shit over and over, blaming the same people over and over. Guess what - nothing will change.
Stuff will change If people go ingame, roleplay or do whatever they feel like whats within the limits of rules and enjoy themselves. If others see people doing that, they will eventually join in and that helps/motivates developers to work on their objectives quicker perhaps. Im not saying they're doing it slow right now or anything, but they see Its worth of doing.

I like the idea but it will never work even the next 40393 years 

Of course It doesnt If you sit on your ass in the forums and complain about shit, while you could do something about it and that something is so easy, I bet you couldnt come up with it.

[William Carter]

The same people that say we should go IG aren't even going IG and are actively playing Mudoo, LSRP and some other random servers.

Pretty sure you're one of them.

Lets keep making these topics, lets keep talking the same shit over and over, blaming the same people over and over. Guess what - nothing will change.
Stuff will change If people go ingame, roleplay or do whatever they feel like whats within the limits of rules and enjoy themselves. If others see people doing that, they will eventually join in and that helps/motivates developers to work on their objectives quicker perhaps. Im not saying they're doing it slow right now or anything, but they see Its worth of doing.

I like the idea but it will never work even the next 40393 years 

Of course It doesnt If you sit on your ass in the forums and complain about shit, while you could do something about it and that something is so easy, I bet you couldnt come up with it.

Habibi no one is complaining here only you begging players to join which is totally wrong and useless and won't fix anything, many players BEFORE said this including you, in pervious TOPICS, nothing changed, why do you keep telling players to join while you your self don't? 

[Khm]

Pretty sure you're one of them.

So in a post you say that we should stop accusing eachother and stop creating topics and then you falsely accuse me of even playing SA:MP, well bad news for, I am busy studying and travelling until I settle down in the end of July in another country and then come back in September to settle in another country again. But if we talking accusations, how about we stop killing new players for fun and claim that LSRP is better than Argonath and rage quit to there when admins tell us to stop deathmatching. Making new players flee away is also not beneficial for the server. . Hypocrisy is also another problem that we need to fix within this community.
And one more thing, I didn't tell people to IG, I said if the heads fix themselves and actually do something for the community players will come, so kindly go back and reread slowly what I wrote and drop your AoD-Sforza "hatred" elsewhere this is outside of character, look at the comments instead of looking at who are writing them, maybe you could understand a thing or two about the problems we're having.

Of course It doesnt If you sit on your ass in the forums and complain about shit, while you could do something about it and that something is so easy, I bet you couldnt come up with it.

Start then, what are you waiting for. I will login and stay IG for some time if I see you IG for 6 hours in one day without afking. That if I don't get banned for revealing all the intel and information in my resignation topic.

[RastaMousey]

*yawn*

[Carbon]

Just to inform you guys, we are starting with administration team reform. Its highly necessary to do it as soon as possible so we can take the next steps for the future.
Everyone who are interested in future of SAMP and are willing to help us, are welcome to contact me via pm with his point of view. All the cancerous attidude players will be removed instantly.

[Miki.]

Just to inform you guys, we are starting with administration team reform. Its highly necessary to do it as soon as possible so we can take the next steps for the future.
Everyone who are interested in future of SAMP and are willing to help us, are welcome to contact me via pm with his point of view. All the cancerous attidude players will be removed instantly.

Great idea, fresh start true but never saw a problem with administration at least with low staff ranks all did their job with commitment and brain but oh well.

[Thomas_A]

Pretty sure you're one of them.

So in a post you say that we should stop accusing eachother and stop creating topics and then you falsely accuse me of even playing SA:MP, well bad news for, I am busy studying and travelling until I settle down in the end of July in another country and then come back in September to settle in another country again. But if we talking accusations, how about we stop killing new players for fun and claim that LSRP is better than Argonath and rage quit to there when admins tell us to stop deathmatching. Making new players flee away is also not beneficial for the server. . Hypocrisy is also another problem that we need to fix within this community.
And one more thing, I didn't tell people to IG, I said if the heads fix themselves and actually do something for the community players will come, so kindly go back and reread slowly what I wrote and drop your AoD-Sforza "hatred" elsewhere this is outside of character, look at the comments instead of looking at who are writing them, maybe you could understand a thing or two about the problems we're having.

Of course It doesnt If you sit on your ass in the forums and complain about shit, while you could do something about it and that something is so easy, I bet you couldnt come up with it.

Start then, what are you waiting for. I will login and stay IG for some time if I see you IG for 6 hours in one day without afking. That if I don't get banned for revealing all the intel and information in my resignation topic.

1.) You wanna compare the activity/time spent in server recently ? 2.)Why would I give a flying fuck about some Aod-sforza thing 
I simply posted that question because I havent seen you ingame, assuming you'd be spending time somewhere else, in other servers.

[Julio.]

The more time goes on, the more I start to believe that SA:MP is no longer the way forwards.

I don't get much chance to play games these days at all, but the way I see it is that ultimately players are going to play on whatever platform they enjoy the most. They can be tempted away by nifty scripts and being online with 200+ players, but if that's not being offered, then they're 100% going to gravitate to a more modern, sophisticated platform.

Argonath in SA:MP originates from around 2007, San Andreas was released in 2004. It was only 3 years old! Now we're looking at an 11 year old game which is miles behind modern equivalents. Even GTA v is 5 years old, but if FiveM is looking like a credible project with less sync issues and better support than IV:MP then it's a no-brainer to all involved to push towards the more modern game.

I don't know a single person under 20 in my country attracted to newly introducing themselves to San Andreas as would've been the case in 2007. Sure, like VC based platforms we can keep them running as legacy, but in order for Argonath to remain relevant and viable I'd personally like to see a push to FiveM.

[Miki.]

Pretty sure you're one of them.

So in a post you say that we should stop accusing eachother and stop creating topics and then you falsely accuse me of even playing SA:MP, well bad news for, I am busy studying and travelling until I settle down in the end of July in another country and then come back in September to settle in another country again. But if we talking accusations, how about we stop killing new players for fun and claim that LSRP is better than Argonath and rage quit to there when admins tell us to stop deathmatching. Making new players flee away is also not beneficial for the server. . Hypocrisy is also another problem that we need to fix within this community.
And one more thing, I didn't tell people to IG, I said if the heads fix themselves and actually do something for the community players will come, so kindly go back and reread slowly what I wrote and drop your AoD-Sforza "hatred" elsewhere this is outside of character, look at the comments instead of looking at who are writing them, maybe you could understand a thing or two about the problems we're having.

Of course It doesnt If you sit on your ass in the forums and complain about shit, while you could do something about it and that something is so easy, I bet you couldnt come up with it.

Start then, what are you waiting for. I will login and stay IG for some time if I see you IG for 6 hours in one day without afking. That if I don't get banned for revealing all the intel and information in my resignation topic.

1.) You wanna compare the activity/time spent in server recently ? 2.)Why would I give a flying fuck about some Aod-sforza thing 
I simply posted that question because I havent seen you ingame, assuming you'd be spending time somewhere else, in other servers.

That's the thing here logging in isn't reflecting loyalty or commitment to the server, or the amount of will to help and advance.
Some people aren't logging in because of reason and on the same page refuse to log in to the competitor's side or log in like once a month to visit friends from the community but they don't actually spend time here.

Assumptions is exactly what leads to rumors and bullshitting about people that's why shit thrown should be taken with facts or avoided to be heard we've learned it from the past already.


Administration never had nothing to do with server's condition so keep wasting time on useless moves, you can end it all with one simple move really ain't that hard to do and it will firstly bring the people who put effort from there they will raise the server for you but oh well I guess we'll have a few more months of inactivity hopefully not to the grave and try to not carry same bullshit into FiveM or else you can drain it down the toilet right now.

[Julio.]

I'm fairly positive the majority of the bullshit won't follow into FiveM from the players who actually log in to the server. We can all think why 

[Miki.]

I'm fairly positive the majority of the bullshit won't follow into FiveM from the players who actually log in to the server. We can all think why 

Who said the bullshit and problem has something to do with the players though, considering that the problems and bs will most likely move to fiveM.

[Younes]

Let's be honest on this. No one cares anymore. No one really gives a flying crap about what the server had became or what it's going to be. As long as we are just going to blame each other and just pretend that "WE" must fix it or "THEY" must fix it, then the server could be declared to it's own grave from now. I'm not going to lie. I used to have hope until today. I personally no longer believe that the server's situation will change, especially since almost two months have passed and no one really gives a crap about it.

[Dean$]

I'm fairly positive the majority of the bullshit won't follow into FiveM from the players who actually log in to the server. We can all think why 

Who said the bullshit and problem has something to do with the players though, considering that the problems and bs will most likely move to fiveM.

yeah lmao open your damn eyes for once
i doubt everyone should have their eyes opened forcefully you can activate that thingy in your brains and look around