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Offline Younes

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Sorry but i have to say this, If you can't hear the truth or get offended easily then i suggest you do not read the following enclosed message.


Spoiler for Hiden:
The server issue is not scripts, It isn't bad ruling(Rules could do with some clarification/renewing though), To some extent it is Lack of roleplay..

The fucking issue in this server at this current time is the amount of spoilt little fuckwits running around the server, Main ones being certain leaders of Criminal groups running their mouths to all new faces in the community spreading lies and turning people against other people.

Alot of the posts in all of these shitposting topics is done by two people individually Khm and KyleSforza, They will act like almighty gods with no flaws but the blatant disrespect they had shown when in the staff team was appalling, Once they would receive a disciplinary action against them they would run their mouths to their group and then it would spread from there, Now this may not seem serious at all to those who haven't been around but.. Players who get told lies by trusted people in this community believe everything to the full extent of the lie.

Another form of this hatred certain people spread around the community, Main one being "andeey is with Gvardia he hates every other group"
A certain report came in about Deathmatch on the SA:MP server, An admin handled the situation, A player starts a rumour that i told them and ordered them to leave Gvardia alone when i wasn't even ingame. I then get insulted and flamed by a fucking 12 year old kid and his group for siding with their "enemies"

Another problem is, DEVELOPERS AREN'T FUCKING SUPERHUMAN GODLIKE BEINGS.
To anyone active, Take a look at the past, Jeremy, Djole in particular. Any post about something being developed would get a trollish remark made or a "joke" made about it, like just fuck off cunt. If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything.

People need to stop typing and defending themselves on these topics but rather do something about the issues, If you have an issue with the ruling of the server for example, You could write a word document with all the current rules and add changes, Add explanations to the rulings and send it in to a HQ member, Get it reviewed and actually make a change.

If you think the scripts are bad and need improving how about you write up a descriptive suggestion to the development team on the forums rather than bitch about scripts being broken or scripts not being added.

If you can't play with others because of personal issues how about you grab a mirror, Look deeply into it and realise what a fucking loser you are. Or Look into that mirror and realise that you're playing a game and that grudges that prevent you from even looking at someones name without grinding your teeth is absolutely pathetic and that you should grow up. 

Another note: If HQ treated this SA:MP community like regular humans instead of chidlren there would be a 3 page unban section, So you're lucky they go easy on most of you and give you a fair chance.

These are my honest opinions from being a manager, Nothing personally against anyone mentioned, It's just a game afterall. Add me on discord if you want to chat about anything. #stoptheshitpostingandgetingameandmakeadifference

Totally agree with most of what you said except some points  which I still do not agree on (the ones about Khm and Kyle) because: 1. I don't know what really happened. 2. From what I've been shown it's rather rushed and recklessly taken.

Sorry but i have to say this, If you can't hear the truth or get offended easily then i suggest you do not read the following enclosed message.

you are my idol man, after gordon ramsay of course.

And Younes stop blaming the environment, if you're bored from the server don't try to fix it with topics and forum complaints, that annoys the people who actually put effort in fixing it. We understood server is empty, we acknowledge that many people went to Mudoo and many left forever. HQ did some mistakes, so did Gandalf, so did I, so did you. However the real power is when you realize your mistakes and try to fix them. You are SAPD chief, many people never reached that high. You are supposed to be one of the captains of Argonath, don't let the ship sink.

I really am sorry if I seemed to be so negative in my posts. I really never wanted to post anything until I saw things going downways. I only wanted to have the people's hearts moved so they start working and know that if they don't things would be getting more worse. I do play in another server now and it's not Mudoo of course, and the fun I get there can't even be compared to a minute in Argonath even though it hits 100+ players with dozens of nice scripts.. I'm no gonna lie, I just wish we never had this downfall sometimes.. and what bothers me even more is how it lasted more than two months without something being done..

I'm looking forward for the changes especially in the rules, since I've always been saying it's outdated and not clear and need to be updated according to the server's gameplay and the scripts. Looking forward to seeing ya'll in the game and destroy your fields with my Hydra  :lol:



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Are you coming to say i have something to hide? No i dont, we just need to avoid bullshit and people who think they are above someone while acting disrespectful. We have to look in the mirror and start from yourself if you want to fix something. Yes, there is a blame on everyone (players, staff, HQ and including myself) and i never told im innocent and atleast i admit it (As i see all the other guys who are arguing here are role models). I figured out how to make the division way better and i started to reform the staff team. I hope everyone understand its a game and gaming is for fun. We have to be friendly with eachother and stop spreading shit. About past year ive seen the friendship in the community doenst cost anything and there is no trust inside the staff team and also between the players. We are the  community and we have to play here as friends, not as enemies - like where the hell comes the hate between the groups? x_mafia1 logs in and x_mafia2 runs to just DM with the other player without any proper roleplaying. So thats the point where we reached now. People are playing for "fun DM" and money. Ill let you know about the latest updates as soon we reach them.

If anyone have something against me or misunderstood something wrong then just let me know. Lets stop talking about someones back.

*Re-writting server rules
*Staff re-form
*5.3 Update
*Changing drug prices what makes more sense.




"We just need to avoid people who are disrespectful and think they are above others" "we have to put a mirror and start from ourselfs"

Alright so you're saying Khm was disrespectful and considering him self above others he was banned the moment he threw an immature "retard" comment towards you he didn't reveal anything yet  and as well you claim you have nothing to hide so the banning reason was this disrespectful retard comment he threw towards you. but lets for a second collect the following comments you threw towards him the constant immature insults you sent him that finally triggered him to respond with an insult " this will be a mirror for yourself there are too many to count.


Not to mention Khm was demoted for "making other players leave the community" funny how irresponsible the whole demotion was so you're hearing a story from a few of your close friends together with a few staff that hold personal hate towards Khm and you don't even bother to address the person all the accusations are thrown at and you demote him instantly, the moment he comes to you and asks you for a damn reason or the names of the people he forced to leave you respond with the most pathetic way of avoiding an answer " you're just too stupid to understand I don't own any one explanations I can do what ever I want" ( "we just need to avoid people who think they are above others") not to mention these exact rumor one is simply immature and has personal issues with Khm and the second one just rushed into conclusions and after I cleared shit and stood up with evidence instead of Khm that was mature enough to ignore all the rumors HE WENT and apologized to Khm  and the immature one took his stuff back as well so after all this demotion reason is invalid and poorly handled.

Yeah  true issues came out with Khm often but that's because you let your friends freely address your PM any time they get frustrated and cry you rivers over rivers in PM you know what happens when friends address Khm with their personal issues? he sends us to fuck off he tells us there is no reason we'll specifically address him since there are plenty of staff around and we shouldn't expect special treatment from him.

Marcel is a cool guy and all but giving a scripter power to ban people? isn't this a bit absurd I'd even say give him an administrator rank rather then letting this loop hole exist not to mention he banned people for disrespectful language while he himself talks this way very often I doubt he'll ban him self for this.

Andeey of course appeared here to shit on Khm and Kyle why I'm not surprised? the guy constantly shoves the put a mirror in front of yourself so do it Andeey. I won't go over any damn time you Favorited your friends but when people bring you a full video with evidence you blame them for witchhunting and threaten to close their group, when your fellas are DMing Kyle ends up losing helper for not taking your shit silently and then of course when your friends are about to get crushed you stop the scene for no valid reason, when you decide you friends have lack of properties you always manage to bring them some fresh ones out of the tax stock. And another absurd issue I investigated my self the issue of a damn RP server stealing all our IPs every single IP any one of you reading if you ever logged into SAMP your IP was stolen by another server which I won't reveal here but I'll gladly reveal in my PM together with the two main HQ members that decided that it's a waste of time to investigate since they don't give a sh*t about you the players in which server would IP stealing go like this? why wasn't it investigated and handled since clearly the staff who forwarded the IPs is still a staff your own community players got their privacy breached and the only reason this was dismissed because this precious server was related to your friends ain't that right? and the other HQ members is very known for his love for these friends.

Andeey andeey andeey, It's quite ironic when you're talking about disrespectful attitude when you're the most disrespectful guy in the staff team . Every staff member was always cautious when banning one of your friends as the consequences are very known, angry kangaroo storming in to remove his friend's punishment and incase that administrator is protected, you delay the "talk" about the punishment until the staff member forgets it and claim it was a wrong decision taken just to remove your friend's punishment (hint: Waka's case). Another one when Antonio Gvardia casually stopped his helicopter and shot down someone else without any roleplay approach with anyone, he got warned and you came in like a wrecking ball insulting and calling your staff cunts and sandblacks and remove his punishment aswell when there was a full video of him deathmatching, not biased at all. When someone else who isnt your friend reports (Jovanca's case) he'd be told that you talk with the punishing admin to sort things out, the poor guy didn't hear shit from you after talking with the staff member and you didn't even want to pull logs to check things and left him unanswered till now. :lol:
When bogomil got banned for constantly being disrespectful to Waka, Mazen and administration as a whole, you came in crying and insulting the shitout of Khm on HQ seniors chat on the staff server writing about 2 damn full discord pages with insults because "Khm making people leave, Khm making veterans leave" when in reality he was the source of cancer at that time making the players frustrated from his cocky attitude which is when server leaders had to step in and put you back in your place. You can find his unban request here to see how "invalid" his ban as Andeey claims :lol: and oh yeah, he's also Bogomil's friend which explains why.
And the jokes of all when Jeremy got banned, the guy got banned for leading a dm scene as he TOLD and led 15 players to shoot everyone on sight while admins where on an active duty right in the middle and shot the admins buuuuut Andeey of course would come crying again insulting and he is like always trying to excuse Jeremy's actions and accusing khm of making "veterans" leave and then on the unban request, he says that khm should have banned everyone http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=122226.msg1914543#msg1914543, if that actually happened khm would have been banned from the server aswell :lol:
And the funniest of them all when khm was in an auction for the EQ PnS when khm bid and his net went down for 2-3weeks, what Andeey says?
"Andeey - 07/07/2017
alright, here is the decision from HQ, "you have 24 hours to come ingame and purchase the property, if you fail to do so in that timeframe you will be minused $4,550,000 and the property will be left unowned"
Brian had to intervene in this one aswell to put him in his place as he wanted khm to lose everything I had aswell (not that I care about virtual digits.)


@Grimbeorn  You have nothing to hide? can I please get a permission to go public here with the evidence? I'll clear them to not have any personal agendas or insults pure evidence in them as well as what I wrote here isn't offensive and nothing but facts and my own experiences so I see no reason for this to be removed if we have free speech in this community.

I've been playing since 2011 never been banned barely been punished I'm punishment clean since 2013 yet my first ban is coming for letting the community members see the truth the information the big god leaders hide behind the scenes and I don't mind most of the community members here were friends to me and people I actually care about so I tell you guys now I'm prob banned already but please consider your staying I did all of this just for you guys not to waste time.

As well as for Khm worked on a new mayor system (together with Brian)/ re written rules / and constant mapping as his friend I couldn't get 5 mins to play with him as he was so busy with manager duty and all these extras from community members while other HQ members played fortnite or simply didn't appear IG.



Offline Matt Murdock

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  • Discord: KyleSforza#2938
Sorry but i have to say this, If you can't hear the truth or get offended easily then i suggest you do not read the following enclosed message.


Spoiler for Hiden:
The server issue is not scripts, It isn't bad ruling(Rules could do with some clarification/renewing though), To some extent it is Lack of roleplay..

The fucking issue in this server at this current time is the amount of spoilt little fuckwits running around the server, Main ones being certain leaders of Criminal groups running their mouths to all new faces in the community spreading lies and turning people against other people.

Alot of the posts in all of these shitposting topics is done by two people individually Khm and KyleSforza, They will act like almighty gods with no flaws but the blatant disrespect they had shown when in the staff team was appalling, Once they would receive a disciplinary action against them they would run their mouths to their group and then it would spread from there, Now this may not seem serious at all to those who haven't been around but.. Players who get told lies by trusted people in this community believe everything to the full extent of the lie.

Another form of this hatred certain people spread around the community, Main one being "andeey is with Gvardia he hates every other group"
A certain report came in about Deathmatch on the SA:MP server, An admin handled the situation, A player starts a rumour that i told them and ordered them to leave Gvardia alone when i wasn't even ingame. I then get insulted and flamed by a fucking 12 year old kid and his group for siding with their "enemies"

Another problem is, DEVELOPERS AREN'T FUCKING SUPERHUMAN GODLIKE BEINGS.
To anyone active, Take a look at the past, Jeremy, Djole in particular. Any post about something being developed would get a trollish remark made or a "joke" made about it, like just fuck off cunt. If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything.

People need to stop typing and defending themselves on these topics but rather do something about the issues, If you have an issue with the ruling of the server for example, You could write a word document with all the current rules and add changes, Add explanations to the rulings and send it in to a HQ member, Get it reviewed and actually make a change.

If you think the scripts are bad and need improving how about you write up a descriptive suggestion to the development team on the forums rather than bitch about scripts being broken or scripts not being added.

If you can't play with others because of personal issues how about you grab a mirror, Look deeply into it and realise what a fucking loser you are. Or Look into that mirror and realise that you're playing a game and that grudges that prevent you from even looking at someones name without grinding your teeth is absolutely pathetic and that you should grow up. 

Another note: If HQ treated this SA:MP community like regular humans instead of chidlren there would be a 3 page unban section, So you're lucky they go easy on most of you and give you a fair chance.

These are my honest opinions from being a manager, Nothing personally against anyone mentioned, It's just a game afterall. Add me on discord if you want to chat about anything. #stoptheshitpostingandgetingameandmakeadifference
:app: Bravo, we need more of this. Let's blame others for own failure.

The whole community knows why the ship sank, its the hatred that we all garnered towards each other.

But lets test out your theory, just because I respect everyone's opinion, even if I have to prove them wrong.

Warning : Do not read the response below if you get triggered easy. Do give it a read if you enjoy bitter truth with some entertainment. 

Spoiler for Hiden:
So, according to you, Khm and Kyle (yes, I'll refer to self in third person because it looks cool) carry more influence on the community than the staff, server leaders and owners themselves? Let's do a small test, look at your last few posts and count the number of "fucks" you gave in those posts and then look at mine. Another test, Kyle and Khm have been active since 2017(after returning), Kyle held helper rank thrice, he did not carry any ambitions to move higher due to the hatred he witnessed during his time as a mod. So why all of a sudden, Khm and Kyle decided to enrage the community NOW in 2018, when they could do it long ago back in '17 itself? If I remember correctly I (Kyle) , still lead the same groups, still owned same assets, still had similar views about you. Then why did it come to this now? Shouldn't you be ashamed, that the two people you mention hold more prestige in the community that the community is so highly influenced by them rather than you, a long time manager?

Lets look at another theory. Andeey returns to server - Population dies (happened both in '17 and '18)
Andeey goes inactive - Server population is witnessed breaking all kinds of records.

Another thing, you are mad because a 12 years old kid raged at you? lol You were 12 once. This is where you fail mate, never discriminate against someone based on their age, gender, nationality or the group they belong to. That is why a majority of this community does not take you seriously. You rage more than anyone else.

#RoleplayingMoreInaDayThanYouDoInaYear

Want to know what your problem is Andeey? You get butthurt too easy.

and oh, I was in-game 10 mins ago. Did not see you there, so came here to mention that.

In regards to the topic. We need to acknowledge the hatred as one of the problems, as witnessed in Andeey's post. If we do not acknowledge it, we will never solve it.

Do feel free to hit me up on discord whoever else seems to have an issue with me.


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Sorry but i have to say this, If you can't hear the truth or get offended easily then i suggest you do not read the following enclosed message.


Spoiler for Hiden:
The server issue is not scripts, It isn't bad ruling(Rules could do with some clarification/renewing though), To some extent it is Lack of roleplay..

The fucking issue in this server at this current time is the amount of spoilt little fuckwits running around the server, Main ones being certain leaders of Criminal groups running their mouths to all new faces in the community spreading lies and turning people against other people.

Alot of the posts in all of these shitposting topics is done by two people individually Khm and KyleSforza, They will act like almighty gods with no flaws but the blatant disrespect they had shown when in the staff team was appalling, Once they would receive a disciplinary action against them they would run their mouths to their group and then it would spread from there, Now this may not seem serious at all to those who haven't been around but.. Players who get told lies by trusted people in this community believe everything to the full extent of the lie.

Another form of this hatred certain people spread around the community, Main one being "andeey is with Gvardia he hates every other group"
A certain report came in about Deathmatch on the SA:MP server, An admin handled the situation, A player starts a rumour that i told them and ordered them to leave Gvardia alone when i wasn't even ingame. I then get insulted and flamed by a fucking 12 year old kid and his group for siding with their "enemies"

Another problem is, DEVELOPERS AREN'T FUCKING SUPERHUMAN GODLIKE BEINGS.
To anyone active, Take a look at the past, Jeremy, Djole in particular. Any post about something being developed would get a trollish remark made or a "joke" made about it, like just fuck off cunt. If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything.

People need to stop typing and defending themselves on these topics but rather do something about the issues, If you have an issue with the ruling of the server for example, You could write a word document with all the current rules and add changes, Add explanations to the rulings and send it in to a HQ member, Get it reviewed and actually make a change.

If you think the scripts are bad and need improving how about you write up a descriptive suggestion to the development team on the forums rather than bitch about scripts being broken or scripts not being added.

If you can't play with others because of personal issues how about you grab a mirror, Look deeply into it and realise what a fucking loser you are. Or Look into that mirror and realise that you're playing a game and that grudges that prevent you from even looking at someones name without grinding your teeth is absolutely pathetic and that you should grow up. 

Another note: If HQ treated this SA:MP community like regular humans instead of chidlren there would be a 3 page unban section, So you're lucky they go easy on most of you and give you a fair chance.

These are my honest opinions from being a manager, Nothing personally against anyone mentioned, It's just a game afterall. Add me on discord if you want to chat about anything. #stoptheshitpostingandgetingameandmakeadifference
:app: Bravo, we need more of this. Let's blame others for own failure.

The whole community knows why the ship sank, its the hatred that we all garnered towards each other.

But lets test out your theory, just because I respect everyone's opinion, even if I have to prove them wrong.

Warning : Do not read the response below if you get triggered easy. Do give it a read if you enjoy bitter truth with some entertainment. 

Spoiler for Hiden:
So, according to you, Khm and Kyle (yes, I'll refer to self in third person because it looks cool) carry more influence on the community than the staff, server leaders and owners themselves? Let's do a small test, look at your last few posts and count the number of "fucks" you gave in those posts and then look at mine. Another test, Kyle and Khm have been active since 2017, Kyle held helper rank thrice, he did not carry any ambitions to move higher due to the hatred he witnessed during his time as a mod. So why all of a sudden, Khm and Kyle decided to enrage the community NOW in 2018, when they could do it long ago back in '17 itself? If I remember correctly I (Kyle) , still lead the same groups, still owned same assets, still had similar views about you. Then why did it come to this now? Shouldn't you be ashamed, that the two people you mention hold more prestige in the community that the community is so highly influenced by them rather than you, a long time manager?

Lets look at another theory. Andeey returns to server - Population dies (happened both in '17 and '18)
Andeey goes inactive - Server population is witnessed breaking all kinds of records.

Another thing, you are mad because a 12 years old kid raged at you? lol You were 12 once. This is where you fail mate, never discriminate against someone based on their age, gender, nationality or the group they belong to. That is why a majority of this community does not take you seriously. You rage more than anyone else.

#RoleplayingMoreInaDayThanYouDoInaYear

Want to know what your problem is Andeey? You get butthurt too easy.

and oh, I was in-game 10 mins ago. Did not see you there, so came here to mention that.

In regards to the topic. We need to acknowledge the hatred as one of the problems, as witnessed in Andeey's post. If we do not acknowledge it, we will never solve it.

Do feel free to hit me up on discord whoever else seems to have an issue with me.
Spoiler for Hiden:
This is purely hilarious, If you can't see how much of a child you're being than you're not worth my time. You didn't Choose to not be a moderator you were fired for being biased. then fired for having attitude issues when you insulted the entire staff team and hq team and demanded we "do our fucking jobs" " roleplay more before handling your tickets"

If you weren't sucking the butthole of the division leader and his butt buddy of a manager you would have been banned 15 times over for being provocative and childish.

#imdone



Offline Matt Murdock

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  • VC:MP: DareDevil
  • Discord: KyleSforza#2938
Sorry but i have to say this, If you can't hear the truth or get offended easily then i suggest you do not read the following enclosed message.


Spoiler for Hiden:
The server issue is not scripts, It isn't bad ruling(Rules could do with some clarification/renewing though), To some extent it is Lack of roleplay..

The fucking issue in this server at this current time is the amount of spoilt little fuckwits running around the server, Main ones being certain leaders of Criminal groups running their mouths to all new faces in the community spreading lies and turning people against other people.

Alot of the posts in all of these shitposting topics is done by two people individually Khm and KyleSforza, They will act like almighty gods with no flaws but the blatant disrespect they had shown when in the staff team was appalling, Once they would receive a disciplinary action against them they would run their mouths to their group and then it would spread from there, Now this may not seem serious at all to those who haven't been around but.. Players who get told lies by trusted people in this community believe everything to the full extent of the lie.

Another form of this hatred certain people spread around the community, Main one being "andeey is with Gvardia he hates every other group"
A certain report came in about Deathmatch on the SA:MP server, An admin handled the situation, A player starts a rumour that i told them and ordered them to leave Gvardia alone when i wasn't even ingame. I then get insulted and flamed by a fucking 12 year old kid and his group for siding with their "enemies"

Another problem is, DEVELOPERS AREN'T FUCKING SUPERHUMAN GODLIKE BEINGS.
To anyone active, Take a look at the past, Jeremy, Djole in particular. Any post about something being developed would get a trollish remark made or a "joke" made about it, like just fuck off cunt. If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything.

People need to stop typing and defending themselves on these topics but rather do something about the issues, If you have an issue with the ruling of the server for example, You could write a word document with all the current rules and add changes, Add explanations to the rulings and send it in to a HQ member, Get it reviewed and actually make a change.

If you think the scripts are bad and need improving how about you write up a descriptive suggestion to the development team on the forums rather than bitch about scripts being broken or scripts not being added.

If you can't play with others because of personal issues how about you grab a mirror, Look deeply into it and realise what a fucking loser you are. Or Look into that mirror and realise that you're playing a game and that grudges that prevent you from even looking at someones name without grinding your teeth is absolutely pathetic and that you should grow up. 

Another note: If HQ treated this SA:MP community like regular humans instead of chidlren there would be a 3 page unban section, So you're lucky they go easy on most of you and give you a fair chance.

These are my honest opinions from being a manager, Nothing personally against anyone mentioned, It's just a game afterall. Add me on discord if you want to chat about anything. #stoptheshitpostingandgetingameandmakeadifference
:app: Bravo, we need more of this. Let's blame others for own failure.

The whole community knows why the ship sank, its the hatred that we all garnered towards each other.

But lets test out your theory, just because I respect everyone's opinion, even if I have to prove them wrong.

Warning : Do not read the response below if you get triggered easy. Do give it a read if you enjoy bitter truth with some entertainment. 

Spoiler for Hiden:
So, according to you, Khm and Kyle (yes, I'll refer to self in third person because it looks cool) carry more influence on the community than the staff, server leaders and owners themselves? Let's do a small test, look at your last few posts and count the number of "fucks" you gave in those posts and then look at mine. Another test, Kyle and Khm have been active since 2017, Kyle held helper rank thrice, he did not carry any ambitions to move higher due to the hatred he witnessed during his time as a mod. So why all of a sudden, Khm and Kyle decided to enrage the community NOW in 2018, when they could do it long ago back in '17 itself? If I remember correctly I (Kyle) , still lead the same groups, still owned same assets, still had similar views about you. Then why did it come to this now? Shouldn't you be ashamed, that the two people you mention hold more prestige in the community that the community is so highly influenced by them rather than you, a long time manager?

Lets look at another theory. Andeey returns to server - Population dies (happened both in '17 and '18)
Andeey goes inactive - Server population is witnessed breaking all kinds of records.

Another thing, you are mad because a 12 years old kid raged at you? lol You were 12 once. This is where you fail mate, never discriminate against someone based on their age, gender, nationality or the group they belong to. That is why a majority of this community does not take you seriously. You rage more than anyone else.

#RoleplayingMoreInaDayThanYouDoInaYear

Want to know what your problem is Andeey? You get butthurt too easy.

and oh, I was in-game 10 mins ago. Did not see you there, so came here to mention that.

In regards to the topic. We need to acknowledge the hatred as one of the problems, as witnessed in Andeey's post. If we do not acknowledge it, we will never solve it.

Do feel free to hit me up on discord whoever else seems to have an issue with me.
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This is purely hilarious, If you can't see how much of a child you're being than you're not worth my time. You didn't Choose to not be a moderator you were fired for being biased. then fired for having attitude issues when you insulted the entire staff team and hq team and demanded we "do our fucking jobs" " roleplay more before handling your tickets"

If you weren't sucking the butthole of the division leader and his butt buddy of a manager you would have been banned 15 times over for being provocative and childish.

#imdone

Eh

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Want to know what your problem is Andeey? You get butthurt too easy.



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Are you coming to say i have something to hide? No i dont, we just need to avoid bullshit and people who think they are above someone while acting disrespectful. We have to look in the mirror and start from yourself if you want to fix something. Yes, there is a blame on everyone (players, staff, HQ and including myself) and i never told im innocent and atleast i admit it (As i see all the other guys who are arguing here are role models). I figured out how to make the division way better and i started to reform the staff team. I hope everyone understand its a game and gaming is for fun. We have to be friendly with eachother and stop spreading shit. About past year ive seen the friendship in the community doenst cost anything and there is no trust inside the staff team and also between the players. We are the  community and we have to play here as friends, not as enemies - like where the hell comes the hate between the groups? x_mafia1 logs in and x_mafia2 runs to just DM with the other player without any proper roleplaying. So thats the point where we reached now. People are playing for "fun DM" and money. Ill let you know about the latest updates as soon we reach them.

If anyone have something against me or misunderstood something wrong then just let me know. Lets stop talking about someones back.

*Re-writting server rules
*Staff re-form
*5.3 Update
*Changing drug prices what makes more sense.




"We just need to avoid people who are disrespectful and think they are above others" "we have to put a mirror and start from ourselfs"

Alright so you're saying Khm was disrespectful and considering him self above others he was banned the moment he threw an immature "retard" comment towards you he didn't reveal anything yet  and as well you claim you have nothing to hide so the banning reason was this disrespectful retard comment he threw towards you. but lets for a second collect the following comments you threw towards him the constant immature insults you sent him that finally triggered him to respond with an insult " this will be a mirror for yourself there are too many to count.


Not to mention Khm was demoted for "making other players leave the community" funny how irresponsible the whole demotion was so you're hearing a story from a few of your close friends together with a few staff that hold personal hate towards Khm and you don't even bother to address the person all the accusations are thrown at and you demote him instantly, the moment he comes to you and asks you for a damn reason or the names of the people he forced to leave you respond with the most pathetic way of avoiding an answer " you're just too stupid to understand I don't own any one explanations I can do what ever I want" ( "we just need to avoid people who think they are above others") not to mention these exact rumor one is simply immature and has personal issues with Khm and the second one just rushed into conclusions and after I cleared shit and stood up with evidence instead of Khm that was mature enough to ignore all the rumors HE WENT and apologized to Khm  and the immature one took his stuff back as well so after all this demotion reason is invalid and poorly handled.

Yeah  true issues came out with Khm often but that's because you let your friends freely address your PM any time they get frustrated and cry you rivers over rivers in PM you know what happens when friends address Khm with their personal issues? he sends us to fuck off he tells us there is no reason we'll specifically address him since there are plenty of staff around and we shouldn't expect special treatment from him.

Marcel is a cool guy and all but giving a scripter power to ban people? isn't this a bit absurd I'd even say give him an administrator rank rather then letting this loop hole exist not to mention he banned people for disrespectful language while he himself talks this way very often I doubt he'll ban him self for this.

Andeey of course appeared here to shit on Khm and Kyle why I'm not surprised? the guy constantly shoves the put a mirror in front of yourself so do it Andeey. I won't go over any damn time you Favorited your friends but when people bring you a full video with evidence you blame them for witchhunting and threaten to close their group, when your fellas are DMing Kyle ends up losing helper for not taking your shit silently and then of course when your friends are about to get crushed you stop the scene for no valid reason, when you decide you friends have lack of properties you always manage to bring them some fresh ones out of the tax stock. And another absurd issue I investigated my self the issue of a damn RP server stealing all our IPs every single IP any one of you reading if you ever logged into SAMP your IP was stolen by another server which I won't reveal here but I'll gladly reveal in my PM together with the two main HQ members that decided that it's a waste of time to investigate since they don't give a sh*t about you the players in which server would IP stealing go like this? why wasn't it investigated and handled since clearly the staff who forwarded the IPs is still a staff your own community players got their privacy breached and the only reason this was dismissed because this precious server was related to your friends ain't that right? and the other HQ members is very known for his love for these friends.

Andeey andeey andeey, It's quite ironic when you're talking about disrespectful attitude when you're the most disrespectful guy in the staff team . Every staff member was always cautious when banning one of your friends as the consequences are very known, angry kangaroo storming in to remove his friend's punishment and incase that administrator is protected, you delay the "talk" about the punishment until the staff member forgets it and claim it was a wrong decision taken just to remove your friend's punishment (hint: Waka's case). Another one when Antonio Gvardia casually stopped his helicopter and shot down someone else without any roleplay approach with anyone, he got warned and you came in like a wrecking ball insulting and calling your staff cunts and sandblacks and remove his punishment aswell when there was a full video of him deathmatching, not biased at all. When someone else who isnt your friend reports (Jovanca's case) he'd be told that you talk with the punishing admin to sort things out, the poor guy didn't hear shit from you after talking with the staff member and you didn't even want to pull logs to check things and left him unanswered till now. :lol:
When bogomil got banned for constantly being disrespectful to Waka, Mazen and administration as a whole, you came in crying and insulting the shitout of Khm on HQ seniors chat on the staff server writing about 2 damn full discord pages with insults because "Khm making people leave, Khm making veterans leave" when in reality he was the source of cancer at that time making the players frustrated from his cocky attitude which is when server leaders had to step in and put you back in your place. You can find his unban request here to see how "invalid" his ban as Andeey claims :lol: and oh yeah, he's also Bogomil's friend which explains why.
And the jokes of all when Jeremy got banned, the guy got banned for leading a dm scene as he TOLD and led 15 players to shoot everyone on sight while admins where on an active duty right in the middle and shot the admins buuuuut Andeey of course would come crying again insulting and he is like always trying to excuse Jeremy's actions and accusing khm of making "veterans" leave and then on the unban request, he says that khm should have banned everyone http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=122226.msg1914543#msg1914543, if that actually happened khm would have been banned from the server aswell :lol:
And the funniest of them all when khm was in an auction for the EQ PnS when khm bid and his net went down for 2-3weeks, what Andeey says?
"Andeey - 07/07/2017
alright, here is the decision from HQ, "you have 24 hours to come ingame and purchase the property, if you fail to do so in that timeframe you will be minused $4,550,000 and the property will be left unowned"
Brian had to intervene in this one aswell to put him in his place as he wanted khm to lose everything I had aswell (not that I care about virtual digits.)


@Grimbeorn  You have nothing to hide? can I please get a permission to go public here with the evidence? I'll clear them to not have any personal agendas or insults pure evidence in them as well as what I wrote here isn't offensive and nothing but facts and my own experiences so I see no reason for this to be removed if we have free speech in this community.

I've been playing since 2011 never been banned barely been punished I'm punishment clean since 2013 yet my first ban is coming for letting the community members see the truth the information the big god leaders hide behind the scenes and I don't mind most of the community members here were friends to me and people I actually care about so I tell you guys now I'm prob banned already but please consider your staying I did all of this just for you guys not to waste time.

As well as for Khm worked on a new mayor system (together with Brian)/ re written rules / and constant mapping as his friend I couldn't get 5 mins to play with him as he was so busy with manager duty and all these extras from community members while other HQ members played fortnite or simply didn't appear IG.
What the heck is a sandblack.. I'm honestly curious as to where you got any of this false info lmao.



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What the heck is a sandblack.. I'm honestly curious as to where you got any of this false info lmao.

Keep playing innocent, people aren't blind that's a way to not use offensive words such as ni**a or nig*er if you prefer. I'm avoiding usage of racist words unlike you and I have friends that are actually black so a bit of respect to human beings never hurts any one.


New favourite word. <3
Btw you were spot on with the ghost town Nazism had nothing to do with breaching just a poor attempt of cover, thank you for pointing that out back then.  sad how they tryed to cover all that nazi remarks with the excuse of "oh his account was breached" of course it was.



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*cough* *cough* Totally didn't fake a disconnect to hide the fact that you bid way too much for a PnS..

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I was about to spend 10 hours writing a really long reply for you 2 scumbags, but naah... If you can't understand this is just a game and the families you create are part of the game then this community is not for you.
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All that time you spoke about everyone else, but you. What about you, Miki? Plagiarism is right according to you? Both of you were saints? If you want to throw shit then better throw yourself out of the server. If you don't understand the purpose of gaming, at least don't ruin it for others.
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*cough* *cough* Totally didn't fake a disconnect to hide the fact that you bid way too much for a PnS..

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I was about to spend 10 hours writing a really long reply for you 2 scumbags, but naah... If you can't understand this is just a game and the families you create are part of the game then this community is not for you.
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All that time you spoke about everyone else, but you. What about you, Miki? Plagiarism is right according to you? Both of you were saints? If you want to throw shit then better throw yourself out of the server. If you don't understand the purpose of gaming, at least don't ruin it for others.
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don't start this low subject again Plagiarism my ass, I used 4 seconds out of AoD video for the sake of promotion of roleplay between two groups and for the sake of our community the fact you took this OOC and decided to take the video down only because you didn't like the beef is your problems, any one right here and right now don't ask me for permission if you want to use my videos for the sake of the community you are free and if I'll have a problem with the content I'll contact you firstly before I'll strike your youtube account.

and then you guys post " I hope this video won't be used by some one for their own profit" oh please this a community here I took 4 seconds that take no editing work and a video I spent more then hour editing was taken down, please bogomil you're going low now just because you saw my evidence are valid and have a point same for andeey the topic moderator who went full insults you're just proving our points please stop it.

Not to mention that's the only thing you can seek out on me and the video was taken down the following actions that were made were not related to me I lost my video and reported it over to higher ranks that's all I did.

I'm punishment clean I don't provoke people don't insult, yet on you I can find millions of provocations towards different people groups and punishments I won't even start.



 


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