[UNBANNED] [GSF]Waka_Flocka banned by Doggi.

[Shorty.]

Your in-game name:
[GSF]Waka_Flocka(.)

Ban reason as was stated in-game:
Attitude issues.

Admin who banned you:
Doggi.

When you were banned:
Few days ago.

Additional notes:
I simply did not insult, provoke or harm anyone with my words, i might have been aggressive but i did not insult anyone, here's the whole chat log from the log in till the ban.



[19:23:28] {FFFFFF}SA-MP {B9C9BF}0.3.7-R2 {FFFFFF}Started

[19:23:31] Connecting to 145.239.183.130:7777...

[19:23:32] Connected. Joining the game...

[19:23:39] Connected to {B9C9BF}Argonath RPG

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[19:23:39] 2. {72A8D4}Please contact a helper if you have any questions by using the command /h [question]

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[19:23:40] 5. {72A8D4}Our full rules can be found at www.ArgonathRPG.eu or /rules

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[19:23:40] The login screen will appear shortly. Please wait.

[19:23:44] You have successfully logged in, [GSF]Waka_Flocka..

[19:23:44] You have joined channel 6000. Owner: Cofiliano_Gvardia

[19:23:44] Channel Message: Boys from Queens

[19:23:44] You are now entering Los Santos city boundaries. Mayor: None

[19:23:49] Weapon restored: Knife with 1 ammo.

[19:23:49] Weapon restored: Desert Eagle with 96 ammo.

[19:23:49] Weapon restored: Sawn-off Shotgun with 178 ammo.

[19:23:49] Weapon restored: AK47 with 283 ammo.

[19:23:50] Weapon restored: Sniper Rifle with 40 ammo.

[19:23:53] ***[6000] Kenji_Gvardia(3): yoooo

[19:23:55] ***[6000] [GSF]Waka_Flocka.(6): yo

[19:23:57] You do not have permission to use this vehicle.

[19:23:57] You have entered a Elegy (Plate: W7JMLBF{7ED2FC} ID: 10382). Owner: Nomads (Group)

[19:24:09] PM to Kenji_Gvardia(3): he refused to pick up on my call xd 

[19:24:14] PM from Kenji_Gvardia(3):

[19:24:24] You do not have permission to use this vehicle.

[19:24:24] You have entered a Cheetah (Plate: {ff00ff}SEXY ASS{7ED2FC} ID: 19265). Owner: LSSC (Group)

[19:24:25] ***[6000] Mazen_Gvardia(1): eyyyy

[19:24:28] ***[6000] [GSF]Waka_Flocka.(6): yo yo

[19:24:54] This vehicle can legally carry a maximum of 12 tonnes. (...illegally, 17 tonnes)

[19:24:54] You have entered a Burrito (Plate: 62XFQHR{7ED2FC} ID: 11020). Owner: Dusty

[19:24:54] This vehicle is locked!

[19:25:11] You have entered a Freeway (Plate: BPTISME{7ED2FC} ID: 14251). Owner: Jason_Dilworth

[19:25:11] This vehicle is locked!

[19:25:13] [GSF]Waka_Flocka.(6) takes some armour from a case.

[19:26:17] You have entered a Buffalo (Plate: D42FTAV{7ED2FC} ID: 19721). Owner: [GSF]Waka_Flocka.

[19:26:35] ***[6000] [GSF]Waka_Flocka.(6): wut r u doin guys?

[19:26:43] ADVERTISEMENT: Anyone's up to gamble?{FFA500}, contact [GSF]Waka_Flocka.(Phone: 2299)

[19:26:45] {0055FF}Jason_Dilworth{909090}: (5){FFFFFF} Yo Waka Flocka

[19:26:46] ***[6000] Mazen_Gvardia(1): ordering heroin

[19:26:55] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} yo Dwight Cems.

[19:26:58] ***[6000] Kenji_Gvardia(3): waka

[19:27:00] ***[6000] Kenji_Gvardia(3): why u poor

[19:27:01] ***[6000] [GSF]Waka_Flocka.(6): yo

[19:27:02] ***[6000] Kenji_Gvardia(3): where ur cash

[19:27:03] ***[6000] [GSF]Waka_Flocka.(6): not poor

[19:27:04] {0055FF}Jason_Dilworth{909090}: (5){FFFFFF} Where's GSF at, what happened yesterday?

[19:27:08] {0055FF}Jason_Dilworth{909090}: (5){FFFFFF} Big inside fight?

[19:27:18] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} Why would you assume that?

[19:27:25] {0055FF}Jason_Dilworth{909090}: (5){FFFFFF} Jov left, Djole left argo.

[19:27:44] {FFFFFF}Mazen_Gvardia{909090}: (1){FFFFFF} I don't think

[19:27:45] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} You can say it's because argonath can't handle a proper roleplay group.

[19:27:59] {0055FF}[TCL]Bas_McCane{909090}: (13){FFFFFF} AoD seems to be doing fine tbh

[19:28:08] {FFFFFF}Mazen_Gvardia{909090}: (1){FFFFFF} ye

[19:28:15] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} If you like AoD, join then Bas.

[19:28:20] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} them

[19:28:24] {0055FF}[TCL]Bas_McCane{909090}: (13){FFFFFF} I was their Sgt at arms for a while

[19:28:29] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} Nice.

[19:28:29] {0055FF}[TCL]Bas_McCane{909090}: (13){FFFFFF} Been part of em for over a year :p

[19:28:33] {FFFFFF}[WS]Jared_Rowland{909090}: (2){FFFFFF} Djole left argonath?

[19:28:38] {0055FF}Jason_Dilworth{909090}: (5){FFFFFF} Ye

[19:28:39] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} Ask him.

[19:28:40] {FFFFFF}[WS]Jared_Rowland{909090}: (2){FFFFFF} Finally

[19:28:41] {0055FF}[TCL]Bas_McCane{909090}: (13){FFFFFF} Doubt it

[19:28:43] {FFFFFF}Kenji_Gvardia{909090}: (3){FFFFFF} sgt at arms or legs

[19:28:46] {0055FF}Jason_Dilworth{909090}: (5){FFFFFF} I always knew that it wasn't a good idea to split GSF and start a rival gang from i

[19:28:46] {0055FF}[TCL]Bas_McCane{909090}: (13){FFFFFF} He'll be back like always

[19:29:00] {FFFFFF}Mazen_Gvardia{909090}: (1){FFFFFF} True Bas

[19:29:04] {0055FF}Jason_Dilworth{909090}: (5){FFFFFF} Actually, I thought it might work, but yeah.

[19:29:08] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} It was going great, until cops like Mircea started to fuck around.

[19:29:21] {0055FF}[TCL]Bas_McCane{909090}: (13){FFFFFF} What did they edo?

[19:29:23] {0055FF}[TCL]Bas_McCane{909090}: (13){FFFFFF} do*

[19:29:32] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} He simply dm'ed djole and said ' it was an honest mistake '.

[19:29:33] GoodGuyMikal(0) has logged into the server.

[19:29:53] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} Now ya'll know why there won't be any cool groups around.

[19:30:03] {FFFFFF}GoodGuyMikal{909090}: (0){FFFFFF} why

[19:30:05] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} Cuz everytime a group try to make argonath interesting, someone fuck around.

[19:30:09] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} I like your server mikal.

[19:30:20] {FFFFFF}GoodGuyMikal{909090}: (0){FFFFFF} what server?

[19:30:28] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} right

[19:30:31] {FFFFFF}GoodGuyMikal{909090}: (0){FFFFFF} you're not onabout mudoo'?

[19:30:35] {FFFFFF}GoodGuyMikal{909090}: (0){FFFFFF} That server is full of pakis

[19:30:38] {FFFFFF}GoodGuyMikal{909090}: (0){FFFFFF} real cesspit

[19:30:38] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} ikr

[19:30:39] {0055FF}Jason_Dilworth{909090}: (5){FFFFFF} yes like Ricardo

[19:30:41] {FFFFFF}GoodGuyMikal{909090}: (0){FFFFFF} quite crappy

[19:30:45] {FFFFFF}GoodGuyMikal{909090}: (0){FFFFFF} politically correct admins

[19:30:46] GoodGuyMikal has been banned by [WS]Jared_Rowland(2) for Banevading.

[19:30:49] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} but their scripts are cool.

[19:31:06] {FFFFFF}[Rstar]Doggi{909090}: (4){FFFFFF} Waka, if you like it so much - stay there

[19:31:18] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} Why you're taking it personal Doggi ?

[19:31:25] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} Did i advertise the server or something?

[19:31:32] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} Mind your own shit.

[19:31:42] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka.{909090}: (6){FFFFFF} I know what's the best for me.

[19:31:42] {FFFFFF}[WS]Jared_Rowland{909090}: (2){FFFFFF} Viktor you're just back from being banned.

[19:31:47] {FFFFFF}[WS]Jared_Rowland{909090}: (2){FFFFFF} Mind your words please.

[19:31:48] {0055FF}[TCL]Bas_McCane{909090}: (13){FFFFFF} Yet already toxic.

[19:31:49] [GSF]Waka_Flocka., you have been banned by [Rstar]Doggi(4) for Attitude issues.

[19:31:49] If you feel this is an error, please visit www.argonathrpg.com and place an unban request.

[19:31:49] [GSF]Waka_Flocka. has been banned by [Rstar]Doggi(4) for Attitude issues.

[19:31:50] You can not do that command now.

[19:31:51] Server closed the connection.

[Manoni]

Awaiting the statement from the administrator who banned you.

[boostboy]

Hello Waka.

I never claimed you insulted or provoked anyone, I banned you for your more than horrible attitude.

The fact you "casually" would mention a competitive server, on its own, is something that shouldn't be done.
The fact that you tell others to "mind your own shit", is pure toxicity, and shows an attitude not suiting for Argonath.

Taking into consideration that merely a day before the ban was placed, Bas had a run-in with the same attitude issues, means that you've learned nothing from any previous bans you have received.

It also seems like you can't seem to stay away from trouble, or voicing your opinions about the staff team, as evidenced by this:

On the other hand there are SOME players who keep shitting on other players just because they have the powers to do so, with the 15 players who daily come online to roleplay are a perfect example for helping the server to raise again. Yet we still have problems with communication, why would admins PUNISH instantly without showing the faults of  which a player commit? It shows how irresponsible those admins are, some of those admins left and some still exist, YES we do mistakes but we should be taught on how to avoid them next time, not to create hate. ( im not talking about my ban ONLY )

most of players hate causes are either a property or because a specific group got mistreated by a staff member.

My suggestion is to give Argonath another chance by
1)Choosing the staff members carefully who can be fair and give ONLY necessary punishments.

Doesn't take a genius to figure out at least some parts are related to me, and your ban.

I would assume this proves your attitude issues in regards to authority.

None the less, if you're serious about this unban request, I would urge you to change your ways, and bring less of a toxic attitude, to Argonath.

[Shorty.]

The fact you "casually" would mention a competitive server, on its own, is something that shouldn't be done.
The fact that you tell others to "mind your own shit", is pure toxicity, and shows an attitude not suiting for Argonath.

I did not mention it’s name and obviously it’s name is mentioned everywhere even on forums. I can see that you are trying to prove that i am advertising another server, Competitive ha 

Taking into consideration that merely a day before the ban was placed, Bas had a run-in with the same attitude issues, means that you've learned nothing from any previous bans you have received.

About my conversation with Bas, yea i had an aggressive conversation with Bas the other day, yet he did not give me a single punishment in matter of fact he was trying to prove me wrong, he did not report me anyways plus he was on TS with you when you gave me the ban, if i was going to get punished Bas would have punished me at that time not On the next day, AGAIN you are trying to prove something on me but your evidences are weak.

Doesn't take a genius to figure out at least some parts are related to me, and your ban.

I would assume this proves your attitude issues in regards to authority

I meant you and other admins who have no clue about their actions, i am having a problem with such players WITH authorities like you, not every single administrator on this server, and such actions makes the server toxic. So yea its obvious i meant you.

None the less, if you're serious about this unban request, I would urge you to change your ways, and bring less of a toxic attitude, to Argonath

I give zero fucks wether you think I'm serious or no, your ban is invalid and even if i deserve to be punish banning me is not the right punishment, your fellow admins think that you have no idea about what you are doing, so i have nothing to prove.

It also seems like you can't seem to stay away from trouble, or voicing your opinions about the staff team, as evidenced by this:

There is no such a rule forbidden players from voicing their opinions, you take everything i say personal which makes me feel sure that you are one of those admins even if i did not mention your name.


Finally for those who are reviewing this unban request, and as Doggi claim he banned me for the following reasons:

1) Advertising a competitive server. ( I did not mention the Competitive server, i admired their scripts then said “ ikr “ after Mikal repling “ this server is full of pakis “
2) Insulting Bas the previous day as he claim. ( he was not online during that time, Bas responded to me and he did not punish or report me that day, and i have a discord messages from Bas proves that he didn’t report me. Doggi and Bas were on TS during my ban time and Bas told Doggi about his conversation with me yet i can’t call that a proper report )

This ban is invalid and it’s based on weird excuses which i think even if Doggi collected them a ban would never be the right punishment.

[Shorty.]

I'd like to add few things also. .

I never claimed you insulted or provoked anyone, I banned you for your more than horrible attitude.

Taking into consideration that merely a day before the ban was placed, Bas had a run-in with the same attitude issues, means that you've learned nothing from any previous bans you have received.

You answered yourself mate, Define attitude issues please..

I'll conclude this by saying, this unban request is somehow involved in a topic i replied to, yet i did not mention anyone's name, BUT Doggi brought it into this unban request. this ban as far as i know is related to the chatlogs and my actions IG not on forums, I showed the chatlogs from the beginning till the ban.

[Manoni]

You do realize that the attitude you are displaying right now is no different from the one that got you into this.

Whether if you agree with how Doggi handled things or not this is not the place to complain about it. We have a system and forms for that, but you must do it in a civilized way.
It is our job as HQ to listen to the community, their opinions and concerns. But there's a difference between giving your input as a player and complaining for the outcome of what you claim to be a misunderstanding.

While I read the logs, I have to say that both sides have their point. Although I feel that the situation went rushed by issuing a full ban without a proper dialogue, you need to realize that the attitude you were displaying and the way you answered to the staff members is not appropriate.

You are not a new player, so I expect you are able to re-think your actions and that your next reply will be in a different way, once you have cleared out your anger we can continue discussing your unban.

[Shorty.]

You do realize that the attitude you are displaying right now is no different from the one that got you into this.

Whether if you agree with how Doggi handled things or not this is not the place to complain about it. We have a system and forms for that, but you must do it in a civilized way.
It is our job as HQ to listen to the community, their opinions and concerns. But there's a difference between giving your input as a player and complaining for the outcome of what you claim to be a misunderstanding.

While I read the logs, I have to say that both sides have their point. Although I feel that the situation went rushed by issuing a full ban without a proper dialogue, you need to realize that the attitude you were displaying and the way you answered to the staff members is not appropriate.

You are not a new player, so I expect you are able to re-think your actions and that your next reply will be in a different way, once you have cleared out your anger we can continue discussing your unban.

I understand and agree with you, will be complaining in a civilized way next time.

[Manoni]

I know you are an active roleplayer in the server, your intentions are good but you gotta work with the way you handle this kinda situations, you can't get angry over everything, there's always a better way.

Tell me how would you improve if you were given a chance of getting unbanned.

[Shorty.]

I know you are an active roleplayer in the server, your intentions are good but you gotta work with the way you handle this kinda situations, you can't get angry over everything, there's always a better way.

Tell me how would you improve if you were given a chance of getting unbanned.

I admit  that my aggressive attitude was wrong, and i will simply ignore such conversation, but Doggi’s decision is 100 percent valid?

[Manoni]

I know you are an active roleplayer in the server, your intentions are good but you gotta work with the way you handle this kinda situations, you can't get angry over everything, there's always a better way.

Tell me how would you improve if you were given a chance of getting unbanned.

I admit  that my aggressive attitude was wrong, and i will simply ignore such conversation, but Doggi’s decision is 100 percent valid?

If you are asking that if the reason why Doggi decided to punish you is valid I would say yes, because the attitude shown from you in the logs and on the previous posts you've made as I explained you before, it's innapropriate. If you meaning to say that the situation could have gotten a different approach instead of escalating to a full removal I would also say yes, It could've.

This is a matter that I, as a manager will have to review, but in the meantime what's done is done. You do have accepted that your attitude wasn't right and that the way you reacted towards the punishment given to you wasn't the best either, whether if it was too harsh or not. You must now focus on yourself and on how you will prevent this kind of situations in the future.

[Shorty.]

I know you are an active roleplayer in the server, your intentions are good but you gotta work with the way you handle this kinda situations, you can't get angry over everything, there's always a better way.

Tell me how would you improve if you were given a chance of getting unbanned.

I admit  that my aggressive attitude was wrong, and i will simply ignore such conversation, but Doggi’s decision is 100 percent valid?

If you are asking that if the reason why Doggi decided to punish you is valid I would say yes, because the attitude shown from you in the logs and on the previous posts you've made as I explained you before, it's innapropriate. If you meaning to say that the situation could have gotten a different approach instead of escalating to a full removal I would also say yes, It could've.

This is a matter that I, as a manager will have to review, but in the meantime what's done is done. You do have accepted that your attitude wasn't right and that the way you reacted towards the punishment given to you wasn't the best either, whether if it was too harsh or not. You must now focus on yourself and on how you will prevent this kind of situations in the future.

Alright.

[Manoni]

So, can we expect a change from you if given another chance? You will not let your anger handle the way you express yourself in the future? No mattering if the situation involves a staff member or not.

[Shorty.]

So, can we expect a change from you if given another chance? You will not let your anger handle the way you express yourself in the future? No mattering if the situation involves a staff member or not.

Of course!

[Manoni]

So, can we expect a change from you if given another chance? You will not let your anger handle the way you express yourself in the future? No mattering if the situation involves a staff member or not.

Of course!

Review date set.

[Manoni]

You're now unbanned. Hopefully we wont have to deal with this kinda situations in the future.