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[Denied]Kowalski_Kolta banned by [NAR]Klaus

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on: November 22, 2018, 09:00:08 am
Full ingame name: Kowalski_Kolta
Approximate Exact date of getting banned: 21/10/2018
Reason of getting banned: "Tell me all about it on forums"
Further information: The matter with Klaus still stands and I understand, regret and wish to recover from it. However, this has gone to some real extent with the other community. When I did copy+paste, I did indeed try to edit it in order to somewhat separate it from the original, but I still copied and pasted. After receiving some harsh but well-deserved and well-needed words from acquaintances, I was initially blinded. However, rather than applying for an unban again right after the denial, I spent the majority of the time since the ban, thinking about the whole thing and where I was at fault. I was at fault for my share of the plagiarism and I regret it. I understand that it was totally unfair doing that, taking what you guys have invested literally years into developing.

I need to get this off my chest, I'm young and I messed up. I know we've all been there, but what truly matters is what you do after. That is why this appeal will have all the effort I can give. I do want to state though, the forum theme, though it's the same as this one, I was merely using it as a placeholder while I designed another theme. I guess the theme isn't the problem either. I want you guys to know that no scripts were copied and any similarities/same parts inside the scripts are merely coincidental and were not intended to mock Argonath's scripts.

I would like it if we could compromise, and I think this compromise is fair.

Nottingham RPG is removed as a blacklisted community, and may stay up, but must be as original as possible. We may look at Argonath topics to see how they're structured, and gain inspiration from them, but our topics and such must all be as original as can be, designed from the ground-up and must not be a full-on mocking. Any forms we may want to use, we must ask permission first and be prepared to accept denial.

As a Leader of that community, I wish to apologize on behalf of the entire community for what we did and wish to make peace.


I feel my idea is fair, but if you guys, for valid and fair reasons, decide that the proposal is not possible, I understand. If that is the case, but the Owner doesn't want to close the community as a whole, I'll take whatever measures I can, which are as follows:

- Deleting every forum (after backing up data I want to keep, which is really only the themes I worked on)
- Deleting every Discord server
- Stepping down from my post as Division Leader of Nottingham and leaving the community permanently.

I want to point out that the members were very likely unaware any of this happened. I really hope they can be unbanned because this is my responsibility to face.

I wasn't the only one who copied, but I'm not going to name names, or blame anyone. I accept responsibility for my share in this fiasco and truly regret it.

I have had this in my mind since the denial, which was almost 2 days ago. Except for the 16 or so total hours I slept, this has been in my mind. I have literally been thinking about it the whole time, even at school. I thought very hard to realize my fault, and I have.

I need to start by being honest with myself. I'm young and I make silly mistakes. We've all been there. I want to explain that my intent was never to steal, but I did, and I have to accept responsibility for it. I thought that I was using it as a foundation and editing it to make it somewhat more unique wouldn't be classed as stealing, but it was, and I didn't initially realize that. I understand you guys are pissed at me for my actions, and I don't blame you. I'm here to face the music, and accept what I've done.

I want to point out that I'm not saying anything with hopes to get unbanned faster, but I know that I really need to put effort into this appeal and so I ensured I wrote a minimum of 500 words, because I want you all to know that I am sorry and that I would never intentionally steal from the community and use it against you, at all.

I believe that the compromise I have requested is very fair, and I feel that it's reasonable enough to accept. I also need you guys to know that this wasn't intended as theft, but it was a bad judgment call and I really hope we can move past this and acknowledge I made a mistake, but move on happily on the condition I don't full on mock Argonath again.

I want to thank you guys for taking the time to read this appeal, and I hope my effort gives off a good first impression, of my regret, my understanding of where I was at fault, and my will to turn this around and recover from the mistake made.


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Reply #1 on: November 22, 2018, 02:22:47 pm
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Full post coming Soon™ but I want you to know that you have no fucking chance of getting unbanned in the near future.


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Reply #2 on: November 22, 2018, 05:42:26 pm
Full ingame name: Kowalski_Kolta
Approximate Exact date of getting banned: 21/10/2018
Reason of getting banned: "Tell me all about it on forums"
Further information: The matter with Klaus still stands and I understand, regret and wish to recover from it. However, this has gone to some real extent with the other community. When I did copy+paste, I did indeed try to edit it in order to somewhat separate it from the original, but I still copied and pasted. After receiving some harsh but well-deserved and well-needed words from acquaintances, I was initially blinded. However, rather than applying for an unban again right after the denial, I spent the majority of the time since the ban, thinking about the whole thing and where I was at fault. I was at fault for my share of the plagiarism and I regret it. I understand that it was totally unfair doing that, taking what you guys have invested literally years into developing.
You took two whole days off after the denial? Damn. I'm so proud! It almost makes it look like you actually thought of anything, which you clearly did not.



I need to get this off my chest, I'm young and I messed up. I know we've all been there, but what truly matters is what you do after. That is why this appeal will have all the effort I can give. I do want to state though, the forum theme, though it's the same as this one, I was merely using it as a placeholder while I designed another theme. I guess the theme isn't the problem either. I want you guys to know that no scripts were copied and any similarities/same parts inside the scripts are merely coincidental and were not intended to mock Argonath's scripts.

I would like it if we could compromise, and I think this compromise is fair.
How fucking dare you? Seriously, how fucking dare you come back here after what you did and try to negotiate? You can stick your compromise so far up your ass it'll never again see the day of light.



Nottingham RPG is removed as a blacklisted community, and may stay up, but must be as original as possible. We may look at Argonath topics to see how they're structured, and gain inspiration from them, but our topics and such must all be as original as can be, designed from the ground-up and must not be a full-on mocking. Any forms we may want to use, we must ask permission first and be prepared to accept denial.

As a Leader of that community, I wish to apologize on behalf of the entire community for what we did and wish to make peace.
NO. I was very fucking clear in my announcement, and your unban request topic. Either the community is closed permanently, or you are no longer welcome in this server.

You wish to make peace? You?

Do you even realize the gravity of this situation? You stole our work, our effort and tried to use it against us to create a competing server. Do you not realize how pathetic that is? Are you really so self-absorbed you're completely oblivious to how your actions appear to others, what sort of effect said actions might have?

Let me tell you what kind of reaction it created in me; I got fucking pissed off. Congratulations, you're the first person since 2012 to actually piss me off in this community.



I wasn't the only one who copied, but I'm not going to name names, or blame anyone. I accept responsibility for my share in this fiasco and truly regret it.
AhahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAhahah.

You think you have a fucking choice in the matter if you ever wish to be unbanned?



I have had this in my mind since the denial, which was almost 2 days ago. Except for the 16 or so total hours I slept, this has been in my mind. I have literally been thinking about it the whole time, even at school. I thought very hard to realize my fault, and I have.
Oh, you had to think real hard to know you were at fault? GROW THE FUCK UP.

Whose fault could it be if not yours?

YOU copied our topics, our work.
YOU created Rockstars clan, with exact same tag as the one in Argonath, since you got denied from the real one.
YOU were so desperate for a rank that you went as far as creating a community and then KNOWINGLY stealing the work we did FOR THIS COMMUNITY, OUR COMMUNITY TO ENJOY.

And you had to think if you were at fault, and what that fault might be? God.



I need to start by being honest with myself. I'm young and I make silly mistakes. We've all been there. I want to explain that my intent was never to steal, but I did, and I have to accept responsibility for it. I thought that I was using it as a foundation and editing it to make it somewhat more unique wouldn't be classed as stealing, but it was, and I didn't initially realize that. I understand you guys are pissed at me for my actions, and I don't blame you. I'm here to face the music, and accept what I've done.
We were all young. We just weren't utterly stupid.
Your intent was exactly to steal our work, otherwise you wouldn't have copypasted it. And you're damn right we're pissed.



I want to point out that I'm not saying anything with hopes to get unbanned faster, but I know that I really need to put effort into this appeal and so I ensured I wrote a minimum of 500 words, because I want you all to know that I am sorry and that I would never intentionally steal from the community and use it against you, at all.
I don't give a rat's ass if this was 1500 words. What you say has no meaning. At all.

You would never steal from us nor use it against us intentionally, but you fucking did it intentionally  :mad:



I believe that the compromise I have requested is very fair, and I feel that it's reasonable enough to accept. I also need you guys to know that this wasn't intended as theft, but it was a bad judgment call and I really hope we can move past this and acknowledge I made a mistake, but move on happily on the condition I don't full on mock Argonath again.
Fair? FAIR?

You fucking cunt. How the fuck is it fair? Huh?

You stole from us. You created your little community to be a competitor against us. When you get called out for it, you say you didn't intend to steal even tho' you KNEW EXACTLY what you were doing the entire time.

Then you have the balls to come to us, beg us to let you play on our server while still keep working on a literal copycat of our server?

Absolutely fucking not.

Fuck you, fuck your intentions and most of all, fuck off.

Thanks to your words here, you are NEVER welcome to our server again.

I'm just simply put DONE with you and your constant shit.

Good riddance.



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