IV:MP Rise and fall

[Surena]

If you are not aware SAMP overall activity is falling down, Argo samp is alive thanks to the dedicated veterans who play only samp.
They are in the same boat as IVMP, with a better reach to players who wanna try samp servers, then the T4 who isnt that famous and well known.

SAMP currently has 29 players online, that's near what used to be our limit at T3, it has raised back up from its death because of the solutions the topics that the community had made brought with them.

As for Serifis and Mark, cool down mates. This ain't the right time or place for this.

[Mark]

SAMP currently has 28 players online, that's near what used to be our limit at T3, it has raised back up from its death because of the solutions the topics that the community had made brought with them.

As for Serifis and Mark, cool down mates. This ain't the right time or place for this.

samp had zero players until Teddy came back. They're slowly trying to raise up again, but they were in this situation for two years, with small ups and HUGE downs...like literally dead.
I give all the respect possible to people who talk to me with respect Surena, i didn't come here to troll, what i do with my character in a game does not reflect my persona, something that RememberMe can't understand. I just made it clear.

[superh2o]

Since we are not on the same page, SAMP is more open to new players as you just need to google it and you will find both the servers and the client, its well known.

SAMP neto player base is huge. http://mauzen.org/samp/


T4 has no such reach, its not well known, its not out for years, what could bring the life into server is trying to reach more people with information's about T4

The 20k number of T4 players is a lie, its just 20k names, not unique players.

We need more people getting interested in the game and more reasons why they should be interested.

[jk98]

The T4 Update should have been released for GTA IV and then for GTA EFLC.

Only a few people know about EFLC and in that, they don't even know if the multiplayer mod exists for this game :|

[Surena]

The T4 Update should have been released for GTA IV and then for GTA EFLC.

Only a few people know about EFLC and in that, they don't even know if the multiplayer mod exists for this game :|

The T3 server was still up - don't know if its still up right now but it used to be - with a message to download T4 and such for people whom joined the old server.

They're slowly trying to raise up again

Why did the server fail in the first place and what did Teddy do which made all veterans and other players willing to come back? Maybe we or the server division leaders could do the same.
This may be interesting, atleast it got me interested.

We need more people getting interested in the game and more reasons why they should be interested.

Exactly, I feel like we are getting on the right track now.
Do you, or others, have any idea how we could make the idea a little bit more interesting so veterans or newcomers stick to the game better without being bored?

EDIT: Maybe a script update that would pull interest of everyone to go explore and maybe interact with eachother and willing to do this another time as well, extending the peak to more days?
Or perhaps planned events hosted by decent roleplayers that are able to roleplay and teach at the same time reasonably or something similar to the old roleplaying collaboration Harzy had made back in the day?

[Mac Taylor]

Hello there,


First of all let's keep this topic friendly and let's not go off topic or shit/blame on each other or on HQ/Server

I'd like board moderators @Twenty  And @Bert  to keep watching the topic if it goes off topic more or turns into shit argument to lock it immediately please we don't want to turn this into shit argument.

The main goal of this topic is to point out solutions for the current problem which is "Server is dead with low amount of players"
What is the solution? That's what Kerrar want and I am sure that's what we all want.
So cut the arguments and say list of your own suggested solutions instead.


In my opinion,


As players we need to


- Cut hates/shit arguments with others IG or forums.
- Start by ourselves and stop using excuses such as
"Server got 2 players when it gets 10+ at least I will join it, let's play other games"
If we start by ourselves and stop saying this excuse especially, we will get playerbase back as it used to be.
Yes, most of Iv players have free time to join the game. Personally I've been stalking most of y'all through discord xD 
[size=78%]I've seen many playing other games and leaving the server with 2-3 players and I am very sure if those players who were playing other games because there is only 2-3 players IG joins for real the server would get more than 30 players. [/size]
[size=78%]Stop using this excuse and start joining the server, you join, he joins, we join, all join, server gets full. Simple.[/size]

"Server is boring nowadays, nothing to do in it"
Not boring at all, you are the one who is trying to make the server boring for yourself and for others by saying that.
If you join and start inventing rps or doing same old rps it will not be boring at all.


"HQ does not care about the server, why should we?"
HQ does, Armelin does care about it, if he does not, he wouldn't stay all that long scripting for ivmp for free.
Yes I used to say that we need more scripts but honestly when I thought about it more and talked with other people, I've found that scripts can't do much for us.
T4 came with alot of improvements/features/GUIs/jobs..etc..
What happened? Not everyone joined to test and if they did they didn't last for long.
You can do most of things rply without scripts.
Yes, of course I can't deny that scripts provide a better environment for rpers but I am sure armelin is still working on that.




"No new players joining the game"
Actually no, there are a lot of new players who registered recently but found no one to guide them so left.
Biggest clue is COL and Driving Licenses Topics where you can find many new players not only this, but also there are some who joined and found no one to guide so they didn't bother themselves to apply for passport or Dl.


"There is no a real advertisement team"
Do we really need advertisement team as official argonsth project to be back when everyone can advertise on his own?
You don't need to have a role "Advertisemt Team member " on your forums to advertise your lovely community, do it by yourself collect info/nice screenshots and advertise no one will/can prevent you from doing this.


-Start inventing new rps or rp by yourself instead of hanging at MGS only.
- let's move to another place  instead of MGS, a place to rp or have fun there and not to stand there with your nice car doing nothing.


- we all should accept that we may lose matches at anytime in any rp situation we shouldn't go rage.


- we all should stay friendly together and start rping and inventing new scenarios.


- Stop grinding money/weed stop putting those two as first priority you will get bored from that. You ain't getting those money IRL.


Those are in my point of view, let's discuss or add more solutions and stop arguments already.

[Surena]

if it goes off topic more or turns into shit argument to lock it immediately please we don't want to turn this into shit argument.[/font]

Well, that's a bit too agressive to do right away, just kindly telling to stop it will be fine as well haha.

I do like your post, maybe we can organise something for tomorrow or the near future so people have a reason to join and stick around like a huge roleplay?
Perhaps if people liked it then they could take over the idea and invent something unique as well so we keep the fun up.

[JackDockz]

One problem with the server was lack of quality rp after a limit.
Same repetitive rp is boring. And trying to make new kinds of rp is not taken seriously.

Cop vs Criminal stuff. Firemen and medic missions with next to no rps and just people collabing for money. Atleast EMS and FD tried introducing roleplay in these missions and I appreciate Kowalski and tonik and many others who tried to roleplay during the past few months as Medics and Firemen and it was kinda good to see other types of rp.

Roleplay events +11 from me. Would be helpful.

Also I basically fucked my laptop and ivmp runs at fkin 20 fps now. So playing is just frustrating at that fps.


Crime families in ivmp are literal gods of some shit. Like pulling guns outta their asses or mouths or whatever cuz some cop pulled over when they were strolling in the park.

Roleplays like a nigga falls on the ground and manages to headshot me while falling and then back flips to get back up. What the fuck.

Freecops pulling over vehicles and asking for fines. No i better evade. Samp atleast has a better fine system where the money goes to no one.

Scripts are ok imo and its the will of people to roleplay that matters. Same was with Samp aswell. Teddy gave the players hope and even if main concept is the same with slight changes, it works pretty fine.
Ivmp players lost the hope when Armelin switched to vmp. We don't even know if suge is doing work on the client anymore.

Give the players some hope and they will happily hop back in

//2 am typing, sorry if it's rude or some shit like that

[Surena]

One problem with the server was lack of quality rp after a limit.
Same repetitive rp is boring. And trying to make new kinds of rp is not taken seriously.

Crime families in ivmp are literal gods of some shit. Like pulling guns outta their asses or mouths or whatever cuz some cop pulled over when they were strolling in the park.

About new kinds of roleplay; it will be taken seriously if it's being roleplayed seriously. I have never seen a new kind of roleplay not being taken seriously as far as I can recall.
The wedding roleplay which happened exactly 1 week ago picked up quite well and was also taken reasonably serious aside of some jokes but you need to keep smiling.
A roleplay is not - or atleast should not be - about getting depressed at the end of the day.

If you meant the past like old Genovese with crime families then feel free, those days are gone and now crime families have evolved. Yes they are still armed but that does not mean firing is the first response they will show. In fact, I haven't heard the sound of a gunshot in a while.

[dread_king]

The suggestions of the think tanks are interesting. The people who used to play on IV server have grown out of it due to some reasons or moved to other "new" games or have got busy in their lives just like Ramis said. We had a lot of new players in T3 because it was easily accessible with just the IV game. Advertise it or not it won't really matter, people will buy your stuff only if they have got the money for it, here in this case they gotta have EFLC which is not "so popular" and not many have it. Maybe if we roll back to IV then we can get a fair new regular playerbase like we did in T3. Forget the "old veteran" players, they got busy with their lives and wives, they would rather choose to have a cold beer in their free time than to play.

As it seems in the end from the above comments its all stuck on the "roleplay" mostly and the people who have suggested here are the "routine" playerbase of IVMP with couple of here and there. So I don't think it would be tough to implement the new roleplay guidelines if you all want to, which also reminds me that someone in past tried to reach out to all the leaders of the crime and legal families in an attempt to "improve" the quality of roleplay but all of it died as soon as it was born. Maybe someone from you can make a head start again.

[Surena]

What's the opinion of y'all to restart O.R.P.E with a refresh of the head to hopefully get this active again?
The current leadmenship seems inactive and some of them don't even play anymore unfortunately.

The head should consist of qualified (or approved by players/HQ, idk) teamwork roleplayers who can discuss and plan unique roleplay ideas internally (eg. on Discord) and advertise it on the forum. 
As long as the roleplays are not too complicated I am sure everyone even with little to no roleplay experience can participate and learn and have fun.

We are the veterans thus it is our responsibility to teach regulars and newcomers how to participate in a roleplay and have fun. We could keep pointing fingers at older veterans who tried but left but fortunately WE are the veterans now thus the task has fallen in our hands. We should take the chance before it's too late.

If we are an example to others who have some difficulties to roleplay then it will ease them up. We could also plan regular (small) roleplay on fixed dates so there is a routine ongoing which means people know when any why to join so players can gather and wait for the roleplay to start.

This is what Harzy wanted in the past but he seems inactive/gone so yeah, in my opinion the idea to revive O.R.P.E might be interesting under a new leadmenship.

If reactions/replies seem positive about this idea then I would love to set the first step seeking for new leadmenship - and communicate with the old if they still are interested or can/want to become active -  and get some basics ongoing so a bit of flow starts to occur.

Some of you might say it's silly to do all of this and just start roleplaying your way but I think this is neccesary so people know why and when to join and stick around for something that is going to happen rather than play other games when they see low player count in the beginning.

Awaiting response from you, the community.

- Kerrar


- Credit to Ziden for this video

[Mac Taylor]

Yep, I agree with you. We need to bring it back alive with some interesting rps.

[Surena]

Old leadmenship team of O.R.P.E has been notified to state their activity to see if they can/are still willing to participate in this idea.

[Hernandez]

Personally I think no one is to blame for what happened to the community earlier, efforts are being put everyday by leaders and developers though no results. This is happening for almost every old game, everyone moved to the new battle royal games that have overtaken the popularity of even big games, such as CS:GO that was one of the most played games in the world before Fortnite and PUBG show up, player rate dropped about 70% according to Valve. All I can say is you guys are doing very well, sacrificing your own time and efforts to evolve and push forward the community. We should all keep supporting them and put trust in them until we escape this tough period.

[Kolta]

Yep, I agree with you. We need to bring it back alive with some interesting rps.