Stiven_Gvardia banned by Mr.Zaibatsu

[Stivi]

Your in-game name:
Stiven_Gvardia

Ban reason as was stated in-game:
Ban requested by player

Admin who banned you:
Mr.Zaibatsu

When you were banned:
Minutes ago.

Additional notes:

Where in the rule is "calm down" not allowed? When will we stop with the stupid punishments?

Stupid punishments I understand from where you coming this from, yes something has to be done about it, hopefully this can be solved with the things Jeremy addressed on that other topic about checking our rules and discuss with the players which ones are right or wrong and what do we need to change on them.

Anyway, the point is, ignoring your players is a bad move, no matter how you look at it. Someone will always be left displeased.

Stupid punishments like "Take some time off", "I told u to stop" and other stuff needs to stop. Adding "continuous" to "DM" or anything like that should be more than enough. Being mad and writing in /p is not a rulebreak, no matter how mad a certain person is.

Also "commenting on admin punishment" is NOT a rulebreak, and half your staff team thinks it is, actually probably all of you think it is not allowed.
In RS4 it was confirmed by Leon ( manager at the time ) that it IS allowed, so long as it follows other server rules, like no provoking/flaming. And yet people get punished for saying "lol". Maybe that has changed, I haven't read the rules in a while now, but to my knowledge, it stays so.

[TheGreasyChopper]

 You were banned as you specifically requested to be banned. This is not a discussion on your previous unban requests or the rules. If you ask for a ban and are serious about it, you will get banned. I will let the reason you were offline slide, as it was clear you only joined after your friend Aca was banned for pretty much the same reason. Instead of giving it time and having him sort out his own appeal, you started arguing and ended up requesting a ban yourself.

Banned for "Ban requested by player." by Mr.Zaibatsu on July 9th 2019 @ 13:14:38.

 If you are appealing so fast after the ban, why even request it?




[14:13:47] [GSF]Waka_Flocka: (14) yet he's 100 percent sure about his ban
[14:13:58] Mr.Zaibatsu: (7) You cannot request a ban for someone else
[14:14:03] Stiven_Gvardia: (10) Go ahead ban us all man
[14:14:07] [GSF]Waka_Flocka: (14) ban me
[14:14:08] Stiven_Gvardia: (10) We're requesting it.
[14:14:15] [GSF]Waka_Flocka: (14) i'm still here?
[14:14:15] Mazen_Gvardia: (2) You can't request it for your self too!!!!
[14:14:15] Mr.Zaibatsu: (7) You sure, StiveN/
[14:14:24] Stiven_Gvardia: (10) Only if you ban all of us here, yes I am.
[14:14:29] Stiven_Gvardia: (10) Go ahead.
[14:14:32] Mr.Zaibatsu: (7) I will ban the ones requesting, sure.
[14:14:33] [GSF]Waka_Flocka: (14) count me with stiven
[14:14:39] Stiven_Gvardia: (10) Me, a privileged veteran requests it.
[14:14:42] Stiven_Gvardia has been banned by Mr.Zaibatsu(7) for Ban requested by player..

[Stivi]

[13:05:50] {FF0000}Mr.Zaibatsu{909090}: (7){FFFFFF} If you request something you get it if there's no reason for you not to


[13:10:39] {0055FF}Kowalski{909090}: (1){FFFFFF} You're allowed to warn/mute/tempban/ban people if they request it
[13:10:40] {0055FF}Kowalski{909090}: (1){FFFFFF} ?
[13:10:45] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} No
[13:10:53] {FF0000}Mr.Zaibatsu{909090}: (7){FFFFFF} If someone requests a ban he gets one
[13:10:57] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} False.
[13:11:12] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} You're spreading false information and misleading the players, Mr.Zaibatsu.
[13:11:17] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} Both punishable by a ban.
[13:11:22] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} Where is your ban?
[13:11:26] {FF0000}Mr.Zaibatsu{909090}: (7){FFFFFF} What false info did I spread?
[13:11:31] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} Your previous line.
[13:11:39] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} "If someone requests a ban he gets one"
[13:11:42] {FF0000}Mr.Zaibatsu{909090}: (7){FFFFFF} If someone asks for a ban he'll get it, yes.
[13:11:54] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} False. Spreading false information and misleading players.
[13:11:55] {FF0000}Mr.Zaibatsu{909090}: (7){FFFFFF} Just like people get banned when they joke about using hacks
[13:11:58] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} Bannable offense.
[13:12:03] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} That's different.
[13:12:12] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} You admit to having bans you get punished
[13:12:40] {FF0000}Mr.Zaibatsu{909090}: (7){FFFFFF} "Ban me and watch the server die"
[13:12:44] {FF0000}Mr.Zaibatsu{909090}: (7){FFFFFF} Is as bad attitude as you get
[13:12:49] {FFFFFF}Mazen_Gvardia{909090}: (2){FFFFFF} Or at least get a report for someone
[13:12:54] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} But you didn't ban him for a bad attitude?
[13:12:56] {FFFFFF}[GSF]Waka_Flocka{909090}: (14){FFFFFF} why would u even ban him lol
[13:13:03] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} I would have been community banned if that was the case
[13:13:05] {FF0000}Mr.Zaibatsu{909090}: (7){FFFFFF} Because he asked for it, wtf u on about
[13:13:10] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} No wtf u on about
[13:13:28] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} I can make a forum topic
[13:13:32] {FF0000}Mr.Zaibatsu{909090}: (7){FFFFFF} Did Aca not say "Ban us all and watch the server die"?
[13:13:33] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} But really I'll just use Discord

I will let the reason you were offline slide, as it was clear you only joined after your friend Aca was banned for pretty much the same reason. Instead of giving it time and having him sort out his own appeal, you started arguing and ended up requesting a ban yourself.

[13:10:57] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} False.

[14:14:03] Stiven_Gvardia: (10) Go ahead ban us all man
[14:14:15] Mr.Zaibatsu: (7) You sure, StiveN/
[14:14:24] Stiven_Gvardia: (10) Only if you ban all of us here, yes I am.

[TheGreasyChopper]

11.Administrative enforcement of unlisted rules or offenses

Although we strive to cover as much ground as possible with our rules while also maintaining a concise, clear tone, it is unrealistic for a new rule to be created for every single possible situation that may occur in an environment as dynamic as Argonath's. Therefore, administrators are permitted to use their powers for infractions or situations not specifically outlined in the rules at their discretion in order to enforce a positive and friendly server atmosphere. Administrators may also use their powers to enforce regulations created by management in response to a newly released feature until the official rules list is updated accordingly.

Claiming that your offense "was not listed as against the rules" is not a valid argument to challenge an administrator's decision, which is always final. Spamming an administrator's PM with constant complaints impedes upon their ability to do their job efficiently and thus may be punishable. While it is completely reasonable to politely ask the punishing administrator for clarification on a decision that was made via PM, attempting to start an argument about the matter in public chat is disruptive to other players and will be dealt with accordingly.

Some examples of unlisted rules or infractions that may be enforced include, but are not limited to:
Enforcing the rules of a player or admin-hosted event, and punishing those who choose to ruin the event for others.
Spreading slander (false information deliberately made to harm an individual's reputation) on a player or administrator.
Providing new players with weapons to bypass the passport limitation on buying weapons without taking the time to make them at least somewhat familiar with the rules, which indirectly encourages the new player to deathmatch.
Giving a new player weapons with the sole intention of enabling the player to deathmatch others may be punished severely.
Taking advantage of a new player's lack of server knowledge for your own personal gain.
Roleplays or roleplay groups with themes that revolve around potentially controversial or offensive historical/current events, tragedies, or politics.


It is common sense. I only banned you because you requested it. In the end, I did not punish or think of punishment during the whole conversation as I believe it was a civilized discussion. You were well aware that Aca was banned due to his request, why would you go In Game and to the very same thing and then complain about it?

 Did you or did you not request to be banned?

[Stivi]

Did you or did you not request to be banned?

[13:14:29] {FFFFFF}Stiven_Gvardia{909090}: (10){FFFFFF} Only if you ban all of us here, yes I am.

In the end, I did not punish or think of punishment during the whole conversation as I believe it was a civilized discussion.

[Bas]

Lifted.