[IV:MP] Poll: what is your reason for not joining the server?

[PONPON]

not 2 or 3 probs , many of them
1-moving to EFLC instead of GTA IV
T3 were succefful more than T4 , i saw T3 in youtube and i enjoyed , who talked about T4 absolutely no one !
2- 0 advertising of the server
advertising of the server is one of the most important reason of succes or failing , we can see many bad games well advertised and , actually succeded somehow ! dont get me wrong Argonath is good but the advertising is BAD !!! first time i've entred T3 Client i randomized the server choosing and i got into Argonath LMAO !!!
3- VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY STRICT RULES , AND BANNING !
Dude , just listen to me you cant ban every single player in the server
many players that invited their friends and they were actually funny in RP got BANNED , admin if you are looking at that dont act fool please .

I hope the server gets better or it gets closed because i cant handle seeing it dying

[Kowalski.]

outsiders just fuck it up by advertising Citizen and 1star rating T4

I honestly find this rather hilarious. IV:MP T4 is a nice client, I am not contesting the fact, but rather explaining that CitizenIV is a far superior client IN TERMS OF capabilities, support, modding, and quite frankly advertising IV:MP T4 is just going to divert back to CitizenIV as Jack has pointed out.

Instead of being stuck to IV:MP T4 so stubbornly, perhaps consider the fact that moving to CitizenIV may actually be a better idea for the IV:MP Argonath server than staying with T4. There's every chance it'll become more enjoyable thanks to its extra capabilities which give it that sort of shine IV:MP T4 doesn't have. Custom modification capabilities would be a great way to integrate WheelRider's LCC and along with custom vehicles and integrating Wheel's LCC TO THOSE custom vehicles... watch how much more attractive the server will become.

CitizenIV is simply more capable than IV:MP T4, and I don't mean this in a degrading way towards the efforts made by Suge and Armelin, but you can write a full page of bullshit about how "outsiders are advertising CitizenIV and 1 star rating T4", except that it doesn't change the fact those "outsiders" are giving a solution towards client capability, which is indeed CitizenIV.

Why? Custom modding capabilities, such as custom cars, maps, weapons, and more, as well as near-perfect sync.

Let's explore these ideas a little more.

Custom maps? Hell yeah! You can integrate custom mapping and create a new city next to Liberty City! How cool of an idea is that? Create islands, where people can do shady work, similar to VC:MP's Drug Island.

Custom guns? Think about it, vintage collective weapons, new military-grade weapons, and so much other possibilities such as mass warfare guns, like miniguns and rocket launchers (obviously regulated by server rules) which can aid in creating some AMAZING ROLEPLAY should they be honed and used properly!

How about custom cars? Wonderful! Add in some vintage vehicles, or vehicles missing from GTA IV that was in the other series? Say they're new imports from the other states! How cool would that be? Adding in more vehicles for the LCPD and the NOOSE TRU, for criminals, and helping to perhaps creating more roleplay especially exploring the mass terrorism/mass warfare idea!

Hell, all this could even lead to the potential formation of a military force, such as ARAF (Argonath RPG Armed Forces) expanding to IV:MP, or even a National Guard! How cool would that be, for roleplay?

Stop whining like a fucking idiot and look for plausible solutions that help make the server attractive, such as CitizenIV. This server will only progress if we move forward. If we stay stuck to IV:MP T4 and refuse to innovate, then it's only a downhill slide.

[Commander_Cj]

Spoiler for It is Hidden double d not "hiden" as it says normally:

Come on, just advertise the server and once we gain people, management and new people will actually care about adding new scripts and improving the server, if I was the developer working on this server, there would be nothing to motivate me to start implementing new scripts. I would have lost hope by now.

Why don't you try it yourself? I have tried but outsiders just fuck it up by advertising Citizen and 1star rating T4 or not caring at all. And the few that do want to give it a try get instantly demotivated whenever they see that servers are empty or when there is barely anything fun to do in the server alone. In RS1.8 the system was more simple and people would grind that way and keep server alive in dark times but even that's gone now with the complicated scripts that had roleplay and working together in mind rather than doing it on your own (multiple biz? higher tax, the HQ was forcing people to cooperate with others rather than one man army)

Proof of spreading #1
Proof of spreading #2 (also give attention to the comments here)
Not to mention countless of videos about our server by the entire community over the years.

Unfortunately, I have tried sorting out more time to try and contribute as much as I can for this server. But I couldn't, I became more and more busy. And I don't have the required equipment.

Instead, I tried researching all across google and forums, and forwarded all of my hard-earned intel(information, if you take the word "intel" meaning too seriously) to James, I did actually help, and I did actually enjoy that.

Yes, CitizenIV does support modding and other stuff, but it barely reaches half of the amount of players we had on T3/T4, we do actually have a tough community, and they have the tools needed. I see no problem with immigrating to CitizenIV.

Though advertising might not seem as easy, but if you actually focus, it is pretty easier than you imagine.


He is some interesting thoughts:

1) Youtube is one of the world's leading most visited sites in the world, if not the N.1 site. It is certainly a great way to advertise a product, let me explain:

Video:

For example, this video posted the 7th of July, 2017. By Dwayne_Johnson's channel (JK98), it contained footage of a robbery in our server, guns, shootouts and some negotiations.

This video is undoubtedly one of the most viewed, if not the N.1 most viewed video, ever posted about T3. 2,710 people watched it which is 84x times more than our server could even fit back then, 95% of the people who watched it never knew anything about our server. And that's a FACT.

If we are actually looking for players, and we are willing to "script" such an event. Why don't we do that again? I know in a matter of fact that "scripting" this isn't useful for us in anyway and is quite opposite the reality of our server, but more players will pay us a visit, absolutely. (By scripting the event I don't mean adding scripts, I mean making it similar to "Robotic", quite the opposite of "natural".

2) r/GTA IV is also a crowded place, it has 880 members willing to know stuff about the game, why don't we advertise there? I know posts are 5 days old max, but bro people got nothing to talk about there, and multiplayer in the main game is absolutely shit right now, even worse than our server.

Sub-reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/GTAIV/


3) Moddb, I've already talked about that.


Here you go, once we agree on one client, you can try that. Trust me, it is worth the work.

[psyron]

people in 2019 search for gta 5 in the search bar

[HemanthTG]

people in 2019 search for gta 5 in the search bar

gta 6* actually :V

[jk98]

Spoiler for Hiden:

Spoiler for It is Hidden double d not "hiden" as it says normally:

Come on, just advertise the server and once we gain people, management and new people will actually care about adding new scripts and improving the server, if I was the developer working on this server, there would be nothing to motivate me to start implementing new scripts. I would have lost hope by now.

Why don't you try it yourself? I have tried but outsiders just fuck it up by advertising Citizen and 1star rating T4 or not caring at all. And the few that do want to give it a try get instantly demotivated whenever they see that servers are empty or when there is barely anything fun to do in the server alone. In RS1.8 the system was more simple and people would grind that way and keep server alive in dark times but even that's gone now with the complicated scripts that had roleplay and working together in mind rather than doing it on your own (multiple biz? higher tax, the HQ was forcing people to cooperate with others rather than one man army)

Proof of spreading #1
Proof of spreading #2 (also give attention to the comments here)
Not to mention countless of videos about our server by the entire community over the years.

Unfortunately, I have tried sorting out more time to try and contribute as much as I can for this server. But I couldn't, I became more and more busy. And I don't have the required equipment.

Instead, I tried researching all across google and forums, and forwarded all of my hard-earned intel(information, if you take the word "intel" meaning too seriously) to James, I did actually help, and I did actually enjoy that.

Yes, CitizenIV does support modding and other stuff, but it barely reaches half of the amount of players we had on T3/T4, we do actually have a tough community, and they have the tools needed. I see no problem with immigrating to CitizenIV.

Though advertising might not seem as easy, but if you actually focus, it is pretty easier than you imagine.


He is some interesting thoughts:

1) Youtube is one of the world's leading most visited sites in the world, if not the N.1 site. It is certainly a great way to advertise a product, let me explain:

Video:

For example, this video posted the 7th of July, 2017. By Dwayne_Johnson's channel (JK98), it contained footage of a robbery in our server, guns, shootouts and some negotiations.

This video is undoubtedly one of the most viewed, if not the N.1 most viewed video, ever posted about T3. 2,710 people watched it which is 84x times more than our server could even fit back then, 95% of the people who watched it never knew anything about our server. And that's a FACT.

If we are actually looking for players, and we are willing to "script" such an event. Why don't we do that again? I know in a matter of fact that "scripting" this isn't useful for us in anyway and is quite opposite the reality of our server, but more players will pay us a visit, absolutely. (By scripting the event I don't mean adding scripts, I mean making it similar to "Robotic", quite the opposite of "natural".

2) r/GTA IV is also a crowded place, it has 880 members willing to know stuff about the game, why don't we advertise there? I know posts are 5 days old max, but bro people got nothing to talk about there, and multiplayer in the main game is absolutely shit right now, even worse than our server.

Sub-reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/GTAIV/


3) Moddb, I've already talked about that.


Here you go, once we agree on one client, you can try that. Trust me, it is worth the work.

I nearly forgot about this video, I will try adding links to our server and forums, and let's see if it brings up some activity. 

[Huntsman]

I was absent from Argonath all together.

Anyhow, I hear you guys are moving on to Citizen:IV, so a few questions:
1) which version should I install for Citizen IV: EFLC or the regular IV?
2) is the Citizen:IV server accessible yet?
  2.1) if not, I vaguely recall that the IVMP client has moved from EFLC to regular IV. Do I remember correctly?

And please, don't disable peds. Atleast not in the beginning. Adds some life to the server. If anything, we can disable them later.

See you in Liberty City sometime son.

[Kowalski.]

Just as reference, peds won't be disabled, Division Leader already confirmed it

Both EFLC and IV work fine, but with EFLC, a few files need to be replaced, you can find the instructions on the CitizenIV site.

CitizenIV server hasn't been opened for beta testing yet.

IV:MP supports both EFLC and GTA IV servers, so for instance, EFLC can connect to IV servers, but not vice versa due to the additional EFLC DLC content.

Replied here for others as well in case they have the same query too

[James Conway]

I was absent from Argonath all together.

Anyhow, I hear you guys are moving on to Citizen:IV, so a few questions:
1) which version should I install for Citizen IV: EFLC or the regular IV?
2) is the Citizen:IV server accessible yet?
  2.1) if not, I vaguely recall that the IVMP client has moved from EFLC to regular IV. Do I remember correctly?

And please, don't disable peds. Atleast not in the beginning. Adds some life to the server. If anything, we can disable them later.

See you in Liberty City sometime son.

1. Regular IV would be easiest.
2. Nope, it is still being developed. In the CitizenIV discord there is an Argo channel dedicated there. There's not much in it yet but will be updated in the future.
2.1 The server is still in EFLC on IVMP. There was only talk to convert it to GTA4 only to increase the flow of new players.

Peds won't be disabled. We should however think of ways to interact with them. Maybe the AI cops can be called on you if there are no cops online. I think there are enough options to consider 

[kawashty]

I was absent from Argonath all together.

Anyhow, I hear you guys are moving on to Citizen:IV, so a few questions:
1) which version should I install for Citizen IV: EFLC or the regular IV?
2) is the Citizen:IV server accessible yet?
  2.1) if not, I vaguely recall that the IVMP client has moved from EFLC to regular IV. Do I remember correctly?

And please, don't disable peds. Atleast not in the beginning. Adds some life to the server. If anything, we can disable them later.

See you in Liberty City sometime son.

Install what ever GTA Version you want, as CitizenMP supports both versions, just drop gtaiv.exe version 1070 in the folder and make a commandline in your directory adding -boardless -windowed So client interface doesn't lag while switching screens

[MarceloS.]

The server is cool, but ivmp is known of having bugs which are unvisible roads, stuck at the loading screen, crashes, and I had all of them when
I tried playing it, took me a week or so to fix all the issues, played for a week non-stop and apparently all of these bugs got me again.

last time I remember I had this issue:

I made a topic about it, but sadly no response yet.

[Steve_Riptor]

My laptop can barely handle GTA IV, thanks to old graphics card.

[Surena]

The server is cool, but ivmp is known of having bugs which are unvisible roads, stuck at the loading screen, crashes, and I had all of them when
I tried playing it, took me a week or so to fix all the issues, played for a week non-stop and apparently all of these bugs got me again.

last time I remember I had this issue:

I made a topic about it, but sadly no response yet.

Tried installing patch 1.1.3.0?

My laptop can barely handle GTA IV, thanks to old graphics card.

Lol we in 2020 and ppl still having hardware from 2000s 

[Semirak]

The server is cool, but ivmp is known of having bugs which are unvisible roads, stuck at the loading screen, crashes, and I had all of them when
I tried playing it, took me a week or so to fix all the issues, played for a week non-stop and apparently all of these bugs got me again.

last time I remember I had this issue:

I made a topic about it, but sadly no response yet.

For the crashes i think u are talking about t3 version and for that we cant do so much XD, but in this new client there are low chances to crash.

Regarding invisible roads and infinite loading scree , those are solvable by adding a command line.

[Steve_Riptor]

The server is cool, but ivmp is known of having bugs which are unvisible roads, stuck at the loading screen, crashes, and I had all of them when
I tried playing it, took me a week or so to fix all the issues, played for a week non-stop and apparently all of these bugs got me again.

last time I remember I had this issue:

I made a topic about it, but sadly no response yet.

Tried installing patch 1.1.3.0?

My laptop can barely handle GTA IV, thanks to old graphics card.

Lol we in 2020 and ppl still having hardware from 2000s 

Well I have a 2015 laptop, doesn't like GTA IV too much lol. Solo player is somewhat okay to play on LOW. :-p