The End

[AlexPlays78791]

It's gonna be really hard for me to make this whole topic, but...

I'm officialy quitting and leaving the Argonath community for good.

As I really have a lot of work on my back to do, and take care of my family in real life. As sometimes chatting on friends on Discord a little bit. I will no longer play any sort of games, including Argonath servers as of my difficulties.

And the main reason that I'm leaving is because of the community issues, as the server got broken down in half.


I will miss you all, and I thank you for this long journey on Argonath since 2012, these are gonna be my last messages on this forum page.

I wish this community the best of luck from here on out to the future, as we might encounter again in the future hopefully.


Goodbye everyone.

[Chase]

Maybe we need a goodbye section...

[Badandy]

Maybe we need a goodbye section...

The following 2 rules are re-instated due to some goodbye topics.

Leaving, at all. Sorry, but the owners do not want anyone posting topics about themselves leaving.
If you are leaving temporarily, we have a topic to post temporary leavings in.

Technically not allowed but I don't get why not in these odd times. Sometimes people have to leave for legitimate reasons.

Cya around in a different life.

[Nathan]

Maybe we need a goodbye section...

The following 2 rules are re-instated due to some goodbye topics.

Leaving, at all. Sorry, but the owners do not want anyone posting topics about themselves leaving.
If you are leaving temporarily, we have a topic to post temporary leavings in.

Technically not allowed but I don't get why not in these odd times. Sometimes people have to leave for legitimate reasons.

Cya around in a different life.

I agree. Should be allowed.

[Kowalski.]

Goodbye mate. All the best

[badboy.dhia]

Maybe we need a goodbye section...

The following 2 rules are re-instated due to some goodbye topics.

Leaving, at all. Sorry, but the owners do not want anyone posting topics about themselves leaving.
If you are leaving temporarily, we have a topic to post temporary leavings in.

It sounds like a stupid rule to me, to be honest!
The player is going to leave anyway ! does it matter or is it going to change anything when you ban/punish him for making goodbye topic?
Good luck in your future adventures 

[Kowalski.]

This is one of those times in which I agree with badboy. I see no harm in a goodbye topic just to reminisce on the good times Argonath provided, and to say goodbye.

Regardless though, it is up the Owners and/or Webmasters, whether we agree or disagree. My view on it is that it seems relatively harmless.

[Huntsman]

I think that the problem is that those "Goodbye" topics often end up used for attention whoring, with the player in question being back in two days.

I mean, I'm not talking about this particular person, but in general.

[Kowalski.]

Can't really disagree with that one..

[Bogomil]

The community belongs to the players. If Gandalf decides to show up here insisting on a stupid rule while the community is falling apart, I'll be the first to remind him that he made an exception for Frank Hawk.
Doesn't matter if he comes back in 2 days or never, respect shall be shown.
Goodbye.

[Chase]

The community belongs to the players. If Gandalf decides to show up here insisting on a stupid rule while the community is falling apart, I'll be the first to remind him that he made an exception for Frank Hawk.
Doesn't matter if he comes back in 2 days or never, respect shall be shown.
Goodbye.

Precisely why the various divisions are doing their own thing, even if some of the stuff conflicts with Gandalf's views. I don't think anyone should limit themselves based on what Gandalf has said many years ago because there's little risk. He hasn't been on the forum in like 2 years, and when he does come around, he doesn't stay very long. The most that will happen is he will be on for a couple of days and tell leaders to stop with the conflicting rule. That's when leaders should do a pro gamer move and agree to it, then start doing it again when he's gone.

While I am grateful that Gandalf and Aragorn provided me a platform to have fun experiences throughout my teenage years, I think Gandalf needs to show up again rather sooner than later and make a decision on whether he should transfer ownership to someone more active, close everything down, or find a way to maintain activity. More and more veterans are just jumping ship because it seems this ship keeps sinking day by day. If he does not do this soon, he will come back with no one left.

[Nathan]

Precisely why the various divisions are doing their own thing, even if some of the stuff conflicts with Gandalf's views. I don't think anyone should limit themselves based on what Gandalf has said many years ago because there's little risk. He hasn't been on the forum in like 2 years, and when he does come around, he doesn't stay very long. The most that will happen is he will be on for a couple of days and tell leaders to stop with the conflicting rule. That's when leaders should do a pro gamer move and agree to it, then start doing it again when he's gone.

While I am grateful that Gandalf and Aragorn provided me a platform to have fun experiences throughout my teenage years, I think Gandalf needs to show up again rather sooner than later and make a decision on whether he should transfer ownership to someone more active, close everything down, or find a way to maintain activity. More and more veterans are just jumping ship because it seems this ship keeps sinking day by day. If he does not do this soon, he will come back with no one left.

Truth right here. I’m giving it 6 months. If no actions happen, it will be time to take action into our own hands.

[Sawyer]

viva la revolucion

[KJ_deactivated]

Precisely why the various divisions are doing their own thing, even if some of the stuff conflicts with Gandalf's views. I don't think anyone should limit themselves based on what Gandalf has said many years ago because there's little risk. He hasn't been on the forum in like 2 years, and when he does come around, he doesn't stay very long. The most that will happen is he will be on for a couple of days and tell leaders to stop with the conflicting rule. That's when leaders should do a pro gamer move and agree to it, then start doing it again when he's gone.

While I am grateful that Gandalf and Aragorn provided me a platform to have fun experiences throughout my teenage years, I think Gandalf needs to show up again rather sooner than later and make a decision on whether he should transfer ownership to someone more active, close everything down, or find a way to maintain activity. More and more veterans are just jumping ship because it seems this ship keeps sinking day by day. If he does not do this soon, he will come back with no one left.

Truth right here. I’m giving it 6 months. If no actions happen, it will be time to take action into our own hands.

Nathan for owner 

[jNewtonik]

While I am grateful that Gandalf and Aragorn provided me a platform to have fun experiences throughout my teenage years, I think Gandalf needs to show up again rather sooner than later and make a decision on whether he should transfer ownership to someone more active, close everything down, or find a way to maintain activity. More and more veterans are just jumping ship because it seems this ship keeps sinking day by day. If he does not do this soon, he will come back with no one left.

I can understand the need's of a community seeing an active owner around, It is a crucial part of any active community having a owner/leader  -
but I really can't accept that his inactivity is the source of all our problems in this community.

It is tough year for older versions of GTA all around with the huge competitiveness we currently facing, especialy for IV where It's my homebase, but I personaly never felt
that we were bond tied with Gandalf to see any kind of changes, small or big ones, most likely the Division Leaders and the community of each server is the ones that were leading and doing the big changes.
 
EDIT:
With what being said above, I hope I made it clear for everyone that the owner is nothing more than a fancy title and with a good plan and dedication you can make yourself the changes you want to see for this community, as far those changes are aiming toward a better future for all of us.