The End

[Badandy]

EDIT:
With what being said above, I hope I made it clear for everyone that the owner is nothing more than a fancy title and with a good plan and dedication you can make yourself the changes you want to see for this community, as far those changes are aiming toward a better future for all of us.

I don't agree because being the owner or someone who has the power, to create new servers, assign staff, be able to change anything. A regular player can't do that, they don't have access to the servers. An active owner is required for a healthy community.

[jNewtonik]

Yes, I agree @Badandy, this is what I mentioned above, "It is a crucial part of any active community having a owner/leader" and there is nothing to
debate about that, tho my point still, do you really think that we are bond tied with Gandalf for such changes you're describing?

create new servers, assign staff, be able to change anything.

[Sawyer]

EDIT:
With what being said above, I hope I made it clear for everyone that the owner is nothing more than a fancy title and with a good plan and dedication you can make yourself the changes you want to see for this community, as far those changes are aiming toward a better future for all of us.

I don't agree because being the owner or someone who has the power, to create new servers, assign staff, be able to change anything. A regular player can't do that, they don't have access to the servers. An active owner is required for a healthy community.

I can't recall Gandalf being known for his activity even during Argonath's prime time. In fact, I doubt Gandalf or Aragorn or any of the owners for that matter, have joined the game at least three times the last decade.

I can understand the need's of a community seeing an active owner around, It is a crucial part of any active community having a owner/leader  - but I really can't accept that his inactivity is the source of all our problems in this community.

.. and this is gold right here. Couldn't agree more.

[Chase]

Yes, I agree @Badandy, this is what I mentioned above, "It is a crucial part of any active community having a owner/leader" and there is nothing to
debate about that, tho my point still, do you really think that we are bond tied with Gandalf for such changes you're describing?

create new servers, assign staff, be able to change anything.

Assigning staff can and has been done without any owners. Creating and maintaining servers and access to them requires an owner because no one else has access to spin up a virtual machine on the hypervisor and assign it an IP.

This access issue can be fixed overnight, I have told them exactly how to do it while addressing security concerns, but they haven't even read what I had to say. Folks can always pay for their own machine and host whatever in the name of Argonath. However, it is of my opinion that there is no reason to pay real money for something and submit it under the control of people who rarely log in, let alone consider advice on how to solve this issue so they don't have to be repeatedly bothered. I'd be completely fine with them being inactive if they gave someone who is active the ability to maintain and create servers.

[Badandy]

Maybe the issue is simply we haven't changed in a decade. Sure the servers have been updated but a new server hasn't happened and stayed in a very long time and I think our playerbase is stagnating due to playing the same stuff.

[ali03444]

Alex undoubtedly we all will miss you but I don't see any reason for leaving Argonath community, i mean i also have a very hectic routine sometimes it becomes very difficult for me to get a free time from university work but still i always try to get online for at least once a week...It shows my dedication & love for this community..No matter how much busy life you have but it doesn't justify your reason for leaving this community...i hope you would understand and i wish you best of luck for your future..👍

[Kessu]

How do you people manage to do this in every possible topic?

This is a dude's goodbye topic and you guys are planning a take over? 

Topic locked since it's gone too far off topic and partly because it's a goodbye topic.