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[Sawyer]

I've heard 5-7(not by media from my social circle) cases of people dying after the vaccine, usually after the 2nd dose.

I've also heard several mid 50 to 60 year olds from my real life circle having complications after being vaccinated, and even though they haven't lost their life yet they are in critical condition. Medical history has to be taken into account before vaccinating, that's for damn sure.

Sadly my own parents are all in for the vaccines due to them constantly being on a TV and soon plan to be vaccinated. That's plainly out of fear instead of true belief of them being immune after vaccinating themselves.. how stupid is that?

[Brian]

Hi, I respect you all having your own opinion and believing the things you believe are right but please keep politics away from the community, share your own experiences and give your opinion but please do not reply to other people's opinions as if you know better or they are wrong.

If you wish to learn more, do your own research, look at what scientists have to say if you do not trust government or news sources or open a history book and look at how pandemics were handled in the past before we even understood them properly.

Thanks

As for me personally, I do not fear corona as I know I will most likely come out of it with mild symptoms, how ever I have several high-risk people I have regular contact with so I am cautious. Some family members have gotten their first vaccinations already. The Netherlands is slowly picking up their vaccination rate and they're expected to be able to offer everyone their first vaccine by early July I believe, but we'll have to see to believe.
I've also been lucky enough not to have known anyone close to me that have had corona, nor anyone that has had a severe reaction to the virus and I am hoping things stay that way.

To all of you that have had family members or friends with the virus, I hope they are all recovering well.
To those that have lost people close to them whether it was due to corona or other circumstances my condolences. I have recently lost my grandmother to circumstances outside of the pandemic and I was glad we are in a period where my mother was able to say her goodbyes.

[Norrage]

Tested positive on the 1st of January 2021, was quite ill (iller than a normal flue and the normal flue usually doesn’t make me ill) and still have a little short breath now.

As for pandemic in Netherlands: the less said the better

PS. everybody of course has their own choice on getting vaccinated or not, but if I was called tonight at 2AM, I would get it

[Lonewolf]

I had covid in early september last year, together with many other family members. I was not going to get hospitalized if it was not for a panic attack caused by exhaustion and fear. My grandma (who has 78 years old) was suppose to go at the hospital, she had stomachaches and i spent the whole night staying next to her, in case she may feel ill. In the morning I went to sleep and was exhausted. My mother woke up grandma and told her that some guy from our village had stomachache a few months ago, went to hospital and now he is paralyzed and I've heard them and I think that's what triggered my panic attack. I was sent to hospital because of it, and there they had to test me before entering the hospital and the results came positive. I was panicked, that's all I had. A panic that made me lose my apetite and made me feel weak, I could barerly stand on a chair or eat. That happened for a few days of struggle and forced eating, after which I started eating more and more and drinking more water and resting. I didn't have fever as I've accused flu symptomes before I've been hospitalized and took some paracetamol. My grandma tested positive aswell and that's most likely why she had that stomachache.
The real struggle were the emtions I've experienced while being there especially since I had to look out for grandma too, luckily we were in the same hospital. She also felt ill one night and fell off when she got up from bed and hit her head, but she was alright after a few days.
In rest, no major symptoms...I had a lower oxygen level in blood, it never got under 90% which was pretty good, I was feeling exhausted after barerly doing any effort, dry nose, losing my smell, and I don't remember what else...oh yeah and stomachaches, but I have medical history regarding my stomach. After 12 days I went home and my grandma stayed one more week and came home aswell.

A few months after this two of my neighbours got covid (they were over 50 years old), one of them never went to a doctor for yearly checks atleast and had a lot of problems with his lungs, heart and who knows what, and covid was fatal for him. The father of this guy, which is the second neighbour, got covid aswell and while being transported on a stretcher he fell down, because the doctor didn't secure him correctly and damaged his...I am not sure what that area is called, I think hump?...anyway...and developed septicemia and died. He never found out his son died before him.

Because my parents couldn't let those neighbours struggle by themselves, they helped him while they were home and caught covid (they didn't catch it when me and my grandma had it). They isolated at home and away from me and grandma, but they kept moving around the house with masks. No big complications for them, except my dad who had fever and flu symptoms.

I was vaccinated with Pfizer, a few days ago and had no problems from it, except muscle pain in the vaccinated area. I want all this to end already, I've had enough. My parents don't think if getting vaccinated any time sooner, since they want to see if there are any other problems with the vaccines, and I couldn't wait after them and told them I'm doing it without them and here I am, fine, doing well. Next dose on 22nd.

[Nathan]

Hey folks. Great responses so far. I read every single one and it’s pretty interesting hearing it from the point of view of people in different parts of the world!

Keep them coming!

[Kowalski.]

Here's one from Australia!

Here, the COVID-19 pandemic is almost non-existent in our day-to-day lives. Due to one case here in NSW, a few light restrictions (such as mandating masks on public transport) have been reinstated for a few days, but otherwise, there are very few restrictions here, simply because contact tracing is going really well whenever any cases do arise, and the pandemic is mostly under control here.

I go to school, I get out and about, hang with friends, do basically whatever I feel like doing, simply because it's safe to do so, and I don't have to worry about the virus. Not everyone seems to trust their government, and in some places that makes perfect sense, but here I have faith in the government especially considering the praise they've received for the way they've handled this pandemic so well ever since it began.

So for those of you telling me to come live in the EU, well...

[Cutt3r]

 Ah, nice topic. Thanks Nathan.

Confusion. Hysteria. Resignation. Despair. And some hope.

I don't mean to sound dramatic but that is India right now. In order to understand this, you must understand India first.

India, which may be pretty much unlike what is shown in some documentaries and films, is a blend of multiple people, religions and cultures. Every aspect (religion, culture, views etc) is important. It's not all poor, backward and downtrodden (heard of the Ambanis, Premjis, Mittals and Tatas?). With such a blend, there is a governing system which has been in place for generations. It has been amended and revamped from time to time and although not perfect it works.

Some of you may have seen India in the news. There is a significant sense of despair and sadness and helplessness, with a lack of oxygen and beds and death all around. Ambulances ferry 15-20 dead bodies together in some extreme cases. Bodies are burnt in heaps, funerals are 24/7. But roughly 85-90% of the people recover thanks to the front line workers and the government effort and aid from our friends. That's a ray of hope.

Has the current government handled it perfectly? Much like how many of you have answered, my view is 'no'. But have they done a fair job given Indias population of 1.3 billion, with a vast percentage of them in villages with absolutely no proper health system in place? My answer leans to a 'Yes'. Mistakes have been made, politicians held stupid rallies and religious congregations were held too. But that is how India is. That part of India cannot change. Thus, given the circumstances,  although things are tough and there is a mighty second wave, on the whole, the government  has done a satisfactory job.

We have anti maskers but not too many. Some don't follow the rules but largely, people do. I believe in wearing the mask and being safe. I would take the vaccine when I get it too.

What is my personal experience? Well, my dad and wife had tested positive for covid back in November. Mum and I stayed with them and interacted freely, which was a rather seemingly absurd but sensible strategy (for reasons which I choose not to elaborate here). We wanted to get infected. Mum got infected, I didn't. They all came out of it without too much trouble. I am sure my wife and I were infected again in March this year. We went through that by staying put at home. Our baby showed no signs of infection during both times.

Lastly, I hope that the country which started this gets what they deserve. My views may sound extreme. It has ruined lives, economies and livelihoods and I do not buy anything made in that country anymore. It is terrorism of the highest order. And to think they make juxtapositions of pictures showing a fiery rocket being launched by them while india lights a funeral pyre for their dead. That is extreme insensitivity and I cannot pardon that. Rant over.

Cutt3r

[JDC]

Lastly, I hope that the country which started this gets what they deserve. My views may sound extreme. It has ruined lives, economies and livelihoods and I do not buy anything made in that country anymore. It is terrorism of the highest order. And to think they make juxtapositions of pictures showing a fiery rocket being launched by them while india lights a funeral pyre for their dead. That is extreme insensitivity and I cannot pardon that. Rant over.

I will have to agree with this. Our president over here (Philippines) is a known puppet of that country, who allowed tens of thousands of their nationals to flood the PH to flee the COVID-19 virus as it first spread throughout their country.

Not to mention that the communist dictatorship of that country also covered up COVID-19 in its early stages, and even disappeared doctors who tried to come forward with the truth and warn the world.

Would the pandemic be gone if we could undo the above actions of that country with a time machine? Nobody knows. But would its impact have been much less than it is now, and would everyone else have had more time to prepare? IMO, yes. That country, especially its government, has done a marvelous job of fucking us all around the world, with more than a million dead, many millions more infected, and counting. I hope they get their karma one day; the sooner, the better.

[danipoz]

Lastly, I hope that the country which started this gets what they deserve. My views may sound extreme. It has ruined lives, economies and livelihoods and I do not buy anything made in that country anymore. It is terrorism of the highest order. And to think they make juxtapositions of pictures showing a fiery rocket being launched by them while india lights a funeral pyre for their dead. That is extreme insensitivity and I cannot pardon that. Rant over.

Not defending anyone but who knows where covid started. It may be actually from China but i think covid was spread all over the world well before China stepped up and said they have a deadly epidemic.

[Cutt3r]

Lastly, I hope that the country which started this gets what they deserve. My views may sound extreme. It has ruined lives, economies and livelihoods and I do not buy anything made in that country anymore. It is terrorism of the highest order. And to think they make juxtapositions of pictures showing a fiery rocket being launched by them while india lights a funeral pyre for their dead. That is extreme insensitivity and I cannot pardon that. Rant over.

Not defending anyone but who knows where covid started. It may be actually from China but i think covid was spread all over the world well before China stepped up and said they have a deadly epidemic.

The WHO website and the news bulletins I read. The WHO website say this:

COVID-19 is the disease caused by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2.  WHO first learned of this new virus on 31 December 2019, following a report of a cluster of cases of ‘viral pneumonia’ in Wuhan, People’s Republic of China

Considering it's transmission rate, if it started anywhere else, the world would have known as a cluster would would formed there before it happened in China.

I know this can be a topic in itself with endless debate. It's an informed view though.

[danipoz]

Lastly, I hope that the country which started this gets what they deserve. My views may sound extreme. It has ruined lives, economies and livelihoods and I do not buy anything made in that country anymore. It is terrorism of the highest order. And to think they make juxtapositions of pictures showing a fiery rocket being launched by them while india lights a funeral pyre for their dead. That is extreme insensitivity and I cannot pardon that. Rant over.

Not defending anyone but who knows where covid started. It may be actually from China but i think covid was spread all over the world well before China stepped up and said they have a deadly epidemic.

The WHO website and the news bulletins I read. The WHO website say this:

COVID-19 is the disease caused by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2.  WHO first learned of this new virus on 31 December 2019, following a report of a cluster of cases of ‘viral pneumonia’ in Wuhan, People’s Republic of China

Considering it's transmission rate, if it started anywhere else, the world would have known as a cluster would would formed there before it happened in China.

I know this can be a topic in itself with endless debate. It's an informed view though.

I don't like to point a finger at a country just because a pandemic started there. If it spread from bats to humans i just can't blame someone for that. Can't blame the Chinese people that eat bats and other kinds of animals that are disgusting to the rest of the world. That is normal for them because they are used to for centuries probably.

[TheGreasyChopper]

Lastly, I hope that the country which started this gets what they deserve. My views may sound extreme. It has ruined lives, economies and livelihoods and I do not buy anything made in that country anymore. It is terrorism of the highest order. And to think they make juxtapositions of pictures showing a fiery rocket being launched by them while india lights a funeral pyre for their dead. That is extreme insensitivity and I cannot pardon that. Rant over.

Not defending anyone but who knows where covid started. It may be actually from China but i think covid was spread all over the world well before China stepped up and said they have a deadly epidemic.

The WHO website and the news bulletins I read. The WHO website say this:

COVID-19 is the disease caused by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2.  WHO first learned of this new virus on 31 December 2019, following a report of a cluster of cases of ‘viral pneumonia’ in Wuhan, People’s Republic of China

Considering it's transmission rate, if it started anywhere else, the world would have known as a cluster would would formed there before it happened in China.

I know this can be a topic in itself with endless debate. It's an informed view though.

I don't like to point a finger at a country just because a pandemic started there. If it spread from bats to humans i just can't blame someone for that. Can't blame the Chinese people that eat bats and other kinds of animals that are disgusting to the rest of the world. That is normal for them because they are used to for centuries probably.

Chinese wet markets are not normal in any criteria. Unhumane treatment of caged animals with zero accountability toward the safety of the food and people is NOT normal. COVID or not, those things have to go.

[Stivi]

Lastly, I hope that the country which started this gets what they deserve. My views may sound extreme. It has ruined lives, economies and livelihoods and I do not buy anything made in that country anymore. It is terrorism of the highest order. And to think they make juxtapositions of pictures showing a fiery rocket being launched by them while india lights a funeral pyre for their dead. That is extreme insensitivity and I cannot pardon that. Rant over.

Not defending anyone but who knows where covid started. It may be actually from China but i think covid was spread all over the world well before China stepped up and said they have a deadly epidemic.

The WHO website and the news bulletins I read. The WHO website say this:

COVID-19 is the disease caused by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2.  WHO first learned of this new virus on 31 December 2019, following a report of a cluster of cases of ‘viral pneumonia’ in Wuhan, People’s Republic of China

Considering it's transmission rate, if it started anywhere else, the world would have known as a cluster would would formed there before it happened in China.

I know this can be a topic in itself with endless debate. It's an informed view though.

I don't like to point a finger at a country just because a pandemic started there. If it spread from bats to humans i just can't blame someone for that. Can't blame the Chinese people that eat bats and other kinds of animals that are disgusting to the rest of the world. That is normal for them because they are used to for centuries probably.

Do you like to point a finger at a country for not informing the rest of the world?

[Kessu]

Hi, I respect you all having your own opinion and believing the things you believe are right but please keep politics away from the community, share your own experiences and give your opinion but please do not reply to other people's opinions as if you know better or they are wrong.

This is not the place to get in to "who is at fault" discussion. Keep it strictly to your own experiences with the pandemic and respect other people's opinion even if you do not agree with it. We don't want to see this topic turning in to a useless argument.

[Antonio.]

Germany currently doesn't know what the fuck they're doing. They've been pushing for vaccines for over a year now but have not been able to provide a vaccine which everyone feels comfortable with. AstraZeneca first failed, everyone was scared about some side effects which people were having around Europe, now a majority of people chose it anyway. According to the government's plan everyone should have had their vaccine 6-8 months ago, currently only around 40 % of the population has received it. They're pushing for everyone to get it by June/July, if that actually happens - who knows.

The virus is a major topic in the parliament, it's being used as a political tool by the politicians to win popularity. There have only been rules upon rules to a point that nobody even understands anymore what they can and cannot do. There's no logic behind most of them. Wanna go out to your car past 10 PM to grab something? Here's a 150 Euro fine. Wanna work in an office with 100 people? No problem, as long as there are tests.

Some surveys say that about 30 % of the population is against any vaccine, the goverment is considering giving "privileges" to those who get it, i.e. being able to travel again.

Three groups broken down:
1. Anti-Vaccine people, as said about thirty percent supposedly
2. Neutral people, who follow the rules to a certain degree because they have to, most of them would only take the vaccine so they can go back their normal lives
3. And the people that shit their pants as soon as they hear Covid

I'm somewhere at the neutral point, where I just wanna get the vaccine because it's gonna be obligatory anyway. I have had friends and family members who had it, some were really sick, some had just some symptoms like losing taste or smell for a few weeks or months.

I've been able to work normally ever since it started, as have a lot of people. It's mainy the automobile industry that has suffered the most, where a lot of people lost their jobs. Economically Germany is still doing pretty good.