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[KenAdams]

So you lads are finally standing upwards?   

LMFAO..

Well, on a serious note.. I'd love to get Vaccination as soon as possible.

About the situation here, I'm in a Hilly town in north India. And the situation is pretty fecked up in India. There has been a lack of Oxygen and medical supplies, thanks to fecking black marketing! And a special thanks to the Government, the dead bodies of Covid patients in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar states are being thrown in the River Ganga(which is called a Holy river :/ ). Me and my whole family contacted Covid 19 few days ago.. Although my home isolation is over, I've decided to stay inside the house, since the virus might still be inside my body.

One thing I realised during my Covid treatment: The Indian government doesn't gives a fuck about the people.. all they want is Politics. Recently, the people in one of the Vaccination Centres in Dehradun City (capital of Uttarakhand state, where I live) had to wait in the line for two hours.. know why? Because the Chief Minister of the State had to come for inauguration and politics.. "Are you fucking serious?!"

[Huntsman]

I live in Lithuania.

I have quite a few friends who had COVID. Most had fever and other flu like symptoms, but nothing more severe or any long lasting effects. One of them, however, and a young, healthy guy, still has lingering shortness of breath to this day two months after he had recovered. Another friend still can't taste properly two months after too.

I do suspect I might have had it in December. I can't prove it however. I had this general weakness and tiredness, and I was constantly clearing my throat for like a week. No fever, no aches though, nothing. My taste and smell remained perfect. I had roommates at the time, I told them I feel funny so they should pay attention to how they feel. Both remained in perfect health. I didn't qualify to get tested at the time, as we had limited tests, so I just remained home for the time being and it just went away. The panic that I might have it though was really what took a toll on me.

I myself had the first Astra Zenecca shot on the beginning of April, and am getting to get another one on mid-June.

If you're wondering, vaccines do work. Just a few weeks ago me and my friends had a gathering, drinking beer and stuff. There were five of us. After a week one of them writes me, asking if I feel well. I say - better than ever. Then he tells me that every single person that was there fell ill with high fever and tested positive for COVID. I was the only vaccinated person there, and was the only one not to fall ill. Got tested nonetheless. Twice. Both tests negative.

Lithuania is now currently lifting certain lock down restrictions, restaurants and bars are allowed to open, only with outside tables though, and only till 21 oclock. We're gonna have a "possibility passport" soon that will allow people who had their first dose of vaccine or had antigens in their blood to go around freely.

The vaccination is going pretty fast here in comparison to the rest of Europe. Lithuanians seem to be more accepting of the Zenecca vaccine. Covid cases are declining, a laboratory in Vilnius has announced they might have found a drug to fight Covid. The government says that even if cases start surging again, lockdown will no longer be considered, as we can no longer go under these conditions, must return to normal life and just learn to live with the virus.

[Sawyer]

It still surprises me so damn much that a fair amount of young people around 20-30 are all in for vaccines and/or willingly vaccinated. I can understand getting the vaccine if you simply wish to return to your normal life in order not to lose your job or other examples of similar kind, but in all honesty, it's depressing to see grown up men going along with whatever thrown in their face. Doctors of the highest class are very much uncertain of what you guys are about to put or have put into your body and still unable to address the long term side effects of this vaccine.

Before this so hardly called pandemic, people wouldn't dare to be vaccinated with a shot that has only been released in such sort period of time, and rightfully so. Vaccinated or not; you'll have to wear a mask. Vaccinated or not; you can still be infected. Vaccinated or not; you can still spread the virus and in short words vaccinated or not, all precautions must still be made. These are all facts. From whatever angle you look at it, the whole thing is an insult to common sense.

I know we're not supposed to debate on what's wrong and what's right but god damn talk about brainwashing and frightening off people. First order crime.

[Gregersen]

I wanted to ask in general - if you had a chance to get the vaccine, would you?

No for two reasons.

For one I don't want to get a vaccine for a virus I do not feel threatened from.

And two..

too many unknowns and i don't want to be a beta tester on my body.

Let me jump right on this NO train.
Recent documents have been shared via social media (facebook), showing that deaths with covid19 is about 2500 in denmark since last year. Please be aware, _WITH_ covid19, not due to.

Deaths that has occured after being vaccinated is nothing less than 4500. Makes you think..

[Sawyer]

I wanted to ask in general - if you had a chance to get the vaccine, would you?

No for two reasons.

For one I don't want to get a vaccine for a virus I do not feel threatened from.

And two..

too many unknowns and i don't want to be a beta tester on my body.

Let me jump right on this NO train.
Recent documents have been shared via social media (facebook), showing that deaths with covid19 is about 2500 in denmark since last year. Please be aware, _WITH_ covid19, not due to.

Deaths that has occured after being vaccinated is nothing less than 4500. Makes you think..

If I look into world death rate and overall death statistics I'd fail to see a real pandemic going on the last year but that's another 'makes you think' case.. 

[Gregersen]

If I look into world death rate and overall death statistics I'd fail to see a real pandemic going on the last year but that's another 'makes you think' case.. 

Has your country also supplied with informations about deaths of vaccinated people?

[Sawyer]

If I look into world death rate and overall death statistics I'd fail to see a real pandemic going on the last year but that's another 'makes you think' case.. 

Has your country also supplied with informations about deaths of vaccinated people?

I highly doubt that although I have been trying to avoid news recently, they are cancerous. I know for a fact that several mid 50 to 60 year olds from my real life circle had serious issues after being vaccinated due to the actual vaccine having a negative impact on their medical history.

[Thom]

I know for a fact that several mid 50 to 60 year olds from my real life circle had serious issues after being vaccinated due to the actual vaccine having a negative impact on their medical history.

Can confirm.

There's no credibility in the world, it's sad. Our "Free" platforms of expressing opinion, the so-called social media are heavily biased and corrupted. Sit down with me, I'll tell you a story;
Two months ago, a 23yo boy riding a bike outside of the parliament was killed in an accident caused by the driver of the security team of an official of the parliament while taking an illegal turn to enter the parliament parking. Even though, the official's car was at fault, the 10 cops at the scene let it move on and go in the underground parking and they were pushing away witnesses at the same time threatening them.

Even though, this happened right outside the most popular and highly guarded place in Greece, there was a serious attempt to hide it and Facebook kept shutting down posts regarding the death of this boy.. As a result, this went viral on the 5th day.. For 4 days, facebook fought to remove it. And now I ask you, what Facebook -a business owner- has to do with the Greek Government? And if they have so close ties with a forgotten country imagine with the important ones. The same businessman with other two that muted the USA President while he was still in charge. 3 businessmen running the world.

My whole experience with covid other than health, is seeing the uppers of the world reassuring who has the last word. Cause, conspiracy may be crazy but man if they would feel like it those vaccines could be their way out to pay retirement to liabilities/old people or whatever. Doesn't matter if situation is innocent or not, it's clear through this situation that people will be whatever let's just get over with it. Cause we can neither get access to credible information nor the majority cares enough that their information is compromised. Worse than any virus.

[Gimli]

I wanted to ask in general - if you had a chance to get the vaccine, would you?

No for two reasons.

For one I don't want to get a vaccine for a virus I do not feel threatened from.

And two..

too many unknowns and i don't want to be a beta tester on my body.

Let me jump right on this NO train.
Recent documents have been shared via social media (facebook), showing that deaths with covid19 is about 2500 in denmark since last year. Please be aware, _WITH_ covid19, not due to.

Deaths that has occured after being vaccinated is nothing less than 4500. Makes you think..

Completely the other way round in the UK. In January ~1000 people/day died from Covid. That number is now 8/day. [1]

I know tons of people who have already been vaccinated, ranging from friends in their 20s to elderly family members in their 80s and 90s, and they're all 100% OK. I don't know a single person who had serious side effects from the vaccine. A couple friends had mild side effects like headaches for a few days or skin rashes but that's it. 

[1] https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Gimli]

I wanted to ask in general - if you had a chance to get the vaccine, would you?

No for two reasons.

For one I don't want to get a vaccine for a virus I do not feel threatened from.

And two..

too many unknowns and i don't want to be a beta tester on my body.

Let me jump right on this NO train.
Recent documents have been shared via social media (facebook), showing that deaths with covid19 is about 2500 in denmark since last year. Please be aware, _WITH_ covid19, not due to.

Deaths that has occured after being vaccinated is nothing less than 4500. Makes you think..

Completely the other way round in the UK. In January ~1000 people/day died from Covid. That number is now 8/day. [1]

I know tons of people who have already been vaccinated, ranging from friends in their 20s to elderly family members in their 80s and 90s, and they're all 100% OK. I don't know a single person who had serious side effects from the vaccine. A couple friends had mild side effects like headaches for a few days or skin rashes but that's it. 

Edit: Interesting - deaths in Denmark have actually had very minimal change according to the FT tracker [2]. Certainly not the case in most other countries though...

[1] https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
[2] https://www.ft.com/content/a2901ce8-5eb7-4633-b89c-cbdf5b386938

[Dutchy]

It's important to differentiate between blaming China and holding China accountible.
Yes, China's unsavory health codes can be listed as the main cause, with some additional questions. But to hold China accountible is a whole other beast.

Furthermore, it's important to differentiate between this:

[...] Doctors of the highest class are very much uncertain of what you guys are about to put or have put into your body and still unable to address the long term side effects of this vaccine.

Before this so hardly called pandemic, people wouldn't dare to be vaccinated with a shot that has only been released in such sort period of time, and rightfully so. [...]

And this.

[Sawyer]

You surely have a thing for sharing links. 

[Jcstodds]

Here in Wales/ UK, indoor hospitality services (cafes, pubs, restaurants, hotels) have just been opened this week although I'm in no rush to head into close quarters with everyone piling in. They are going to be rammed full of people and service will probably be awful. I feel bad for the staff!

They are now inviting 36 years+ to have the vaccine. I don't fall into that age bracket, but I will certainly have one if it means I can go on holiday later this year. The drop in deaths and drop in pressure on hospitals is evidence enough of the success in the campaigning for masks and vaccines. Lots of complaints on how the government has handled it, which is pretty normal for literally anything the government does or doesn't do.

In terms of the vaccination itself - I am not a biochemist or medical practitioner so do not consider myself qualified to give an opinion on safety or side effects, and I haven't looked into the research data because frankly I won't understand it without a lot of effort. I would just be wary of anyone trying to push a story using provocative, anecdotal or emotional appeals, or political agendas. Unfortunately it is rife in journalism and social media and if any of you work in scientific research you will be painfully aware of how difficult it is to give the general public a reasonable understanding of the actual situation. 

I'm not aware of any large scale, major or permenant side effects caused by the biological mechanims of past vaccinations. My uneducated opinion is: your regular diet and lifestyle will impact your health far more than a single or double dose of a vaccine. If you are already healthy and well, the vaccine is unlikely to make you worse, but may make it less likely for you to transmit COVID. Similarly with wearing masks... it can be seen as a precaution and responsibility to protect others who are not so healthy or able to do so.

[TheRock]

Yuuuucks.

Greece here, the company I work for, took immediate effect on it and I've been working remotely since March 2020. I've had quite a few close people sick over Covid, all of them had normal flu symptoms, except my best friend' parents who actually need oxygen. Other than that, I've got many people who had doses from Pfizer, AstraZeneca or Johnson. As well as many people who died by it. Pfizer had the worst next 48 hours according to everyone I know, rest just give you a small amount of after-effects for the next days, but nothing too serious. I still wonder how come I never got infected, might be lucky, might not. Who knows.