The reson of cops abuser(read it)

[charz]

                                             The reason behind Cops abuse
Have you ever faced cops abuse? Feel it was annoying? Spread this article to all Argonath!

First of all , they abuse us were only for money!! They will get 300 for killing a suspect and 600 for jailed a suspect! Can u resist this temptation?

Don’t be silly to say that they can also gain money from being driver, hooker, medic or even rp!!

First talk about the driver . As we know players can drive all the cars in the world, there is no reason to call taxi as it will lost money. So I have a solution to deal with it (/carrent systems), go to see my ideal in the ideals child board.
Second is hooker, everyone has wants towards sex , but not in argonath. Player will need to buy condom and pay for only 1 times in order to get HEALTH. But we need to use $2 to get health in front of a machine. Therefore not many player to call hooker.
That is also why medic is useless.

Third , the rp is great for good rper !!it is easy to get money. however , in argonath , we have few of good rper. That is also the main reason to have so many abuser.
Forth, kidnap cant get money easily, 4 times will success 1 times.!! However it is really funny to rp it. Then the /rob command is bugged , why don’t to make it work again?


So , will you be a abuser when you can get that 300 easily? That answer is obvious.That should be more jobs( it is only the solutions)


At last, I want all player and administrators can pay attention to this article .And , certainly, I hope there is more job in the server.!!
We all need a good rp environment!!




 Regards
-charz

[Seskom]

yeap i have got abused and i dont like cops non RP they just come THRU the minimap next to u,u ask how u know i am SUSPECT  answer is always the same "UR NAME IS ORANGE" and then somebody always says RP ISNT SO IMPORTANT IN HERE sooo yea i would be from that side that
only ARPD cops can be cops beacause others cant RP even some ARPD ones cant -.-

[Frederick]

(( Actually, the simplest solution, is to either make the money earned when killing a suspect ridiculously low, or make it to where no money is earned at all.  That's the way I see it.  When the abusers see that they cannot earn money that way, they will need to find some other way to do it.  One of those being jailing the suspect, and not just randomly killing them. ))

[Helljumper89]

I say making it so you gain only $150 when suspect is killed and $1500 when suspect is jailed will create more RP, even though most suspects just run and never surrender and most do /q or crash.

[MasterNeo]

I say making it so you gain only $150 when suspect is killed and $1500 when suspect is jailed will create more RP, even though most suspects just run and never surrender and most do /q or crash.

1.5k u crazy?? i hope it will be


killed-100$
jailed-600$

[samiir]

But no.. I take a look on 4 rp server and there you cant be a cop when you are new.. there are servers were you need a weapon license en when uyou abuse you lost your weapon there are servers where only members of the police community can be cadet or that only players that play a week on the server kan be a cop.. i think its to easy to be a cop a new guy that p^lay 2 sec on the server kéan be a cop so i think or we need a new syste so its more diffuculte to be a cpop or admin can ban free cops but not on server as free cop so he cant reduty anymore.... Somtime's officers talk to a freee cop he answer what you gonna do so we need more power ...

[charz]

But no.. I take a look on 4 rp server and there you cant be a cop when you are new.. there are servers were you need a weapon license en when uyou abuse you lost your weapon there are servers where only members of the police community can be cadet or that only players that play a week on the server kan be a cop.. i think its to easy to be a cop a new guy that p^lay 2 sec on the server kéan be a cop so i think or we need a new syste so its more diffuculte to be a cpop or admin can ban free cops but not on server as free cop so he cant reduty anymore.... Somtime's officers talk to a freee cop he answer what you gonna do so we need more power ...

if we got more jobs, will u be a freecops?(i mean the jobs can easy to earn money from)

[MrEcks]

It is very simple that many free cops abuse for money or out of anger, but other only make mistakes due to lack of knowledge of laws and RPG rules of the streets. We can't just remove them of their right to choose the career in which they work through. Yet, it would help to guide them.

The idea of making a difference between pricing of kills and jails would have to work in opposite ways for the cop and criminal. Making the prices less for criminals and more for officers in jailing "may" lead to a rise in suspects jailed. But, if they are so far apart then officers will be one sided in jails or kills leading to less of a RP mix of both.us

[snesmaster40]

Yeah lowering the money that freecops get when killing should help stop the problem. The other day I saw this freecop that kept abusing this guy. What made it worse was the victim would respawn infront of the freecop, so the guy just kept su'ing him and killing him.

[Prometheus[NL]]

I actually agree ..most jobs dont really have a use ..the game is grand THEFT auto so nobody drives or cals a cab .

also with the bussineses restaurant owners dont make a cent because of the soda machines

You can say but then you should RP ..btu just like the real world people wont spend money if they can get something for free or much cheaper

thats whyn after 10 minutes of ADMINS I NEED JOB most new players choose to be cop .. and thats why 75 % of the server is police

I think ther devs need to address this issue ....Sure its a nice idea to try and get people to RP but the reallity is different ..only bussines that really  makes money is ammunation

I have a clothes store it brings me 600 in a week IF i am lucky ..ammunations make like 20k

I say there needs to be some rethinking or other bussineses should take the restaurants place etc because now its just a waste of space..

[Pancher]

Well i often call a cab to get anywhere when i dont have a car.. It's not soo expensive to waste some $$$$ to an poor taxi driver, hooker, medic or etc.. But as u say some more work where u can get money would be perfect that u dont need to read forum and replie and etc to get $$ u should ust go thrue a guide ingame and then u can start work as a cleaner, with that i dont mean kill peopel i mean to get garbage or somthing else.. But it's up to the delevopers.. I think it's like everyone should Rp diffrent situation but as NEW it's hard when u only got 10k wich they can spend fast on some few bulllets and then is poor..

[Prometheus[NL]]

Well i often call a cab to get anywhere when i dont have a car.. It's not soo expensive to waste some $$$$ to an poor taxi driver, hooker, medic or etc.. But as u say some more work where u can get money would be perfect that u dont need to read forum and replie and etc to get $$ u should ust go thrue a guide ingame and then u can start work as a cleaner, with that i dont mean kill peopel i mean to get garbage or somthing else.. But it's up to the delevopers.. I think it's like everyone should Rp diffrent situation but as NEW it's hard when u only got 10k wich they can spend fast on some few bulllets and then is poor..

sure I also try to throw some money arround when I am RP ing but the reality is most players dont ...only a hand full of regulars /admins does

We should find a way to encourage people a little more ..about cabs not so much usually when I need a cab I am so far in teh country its useless to call one

I am however thinking of maybe starting a taxi service , wait in the country ..and then I could just do admin work untill a stranded player calls

[Gandalf]

It is up to the experienced guys to lead by example.
If you show new players that RP can be funny, they will get their imagination to work.
Having a business is nothing if you are out kidnapping people or playing as cop. If you have a business try to run it and actually be there.

Now you first start a rant about cops earning money, and the solution is to change the earnings ? If criminals would actually give up (as they do not lose their weapons when jailed) that would be a great solution. But most guys prefer to start whining about cop abuse every time they are suspected.

[Aragorn]

Cops abusers?
Lets see all your businesses... You all bought shops and I did not see even 10 MANAGERS who really work with their business... You are going to kidnap or making fun for you, while your businesses are visited by random guys...

You have and advantage over cops as you can make minimum two businesses at the same time - your shop which brings enter fees and your own roleplaying... Cops are the one who really need to work to gain any amount...

Cops abusers?
Lets see how many non-cops are shooting and ramming people... You think not being a cop will stop them from deathmatching? no...

Cops abusers?
The new player will not start work as cop in one minute... He should minimum ask the chat how actually he can become as a cop...

Cops abusers?
Yeah I was reading those complains "I rammed a cop by accident and he fucking suspected me"... WTF is that? 90% of complains on cops - criminals disagree to be wanted, even thou behave themselves on the streets not much better... Cops actually can suspect you even for reckless driving on Pershing square, or on city grass/parks places, right side of the road, did not obeying the police forces to move your asses from police parking slots...

[Prometheus[NL]]

It is up to the experienced guys to lead by example.
If you show new players that RP can be funny, they will get their imagination to work.
Having a business is nothing if you are out kidnapping people or playing as cop. If you have a business try to run it and actually be there.

Now you first start a rant about cops earning money, and the solution is to change the earnings ? If criminals would actually give up (as they do not lose their weapons when jailed) that would be a great solution. But most guys prefer to start whining about cop abuse every time they are suspected.

for me its more about encouraging players like you say ..in that light isnt it possible to disable the health boost from vending machines ? would make the restaurants more visited ..(really nobody goes in even with manager)

anyway I dont think cops earn to much ..they could earn more for a bust in my eyes (same amount for a kill)maybe its not known enough you keep guns?

now I have to admint since the last months cop abuse is down a lot so I have dropped that(yes I know I can sometimes be critical but police have enough people to stand up for them I like to help the gangs call me devils advocate  :devroll:)I think maybe the guy who made this topic was abused badly ? but there are still to many cops compared to normal players Not a big deal just looks silly

Cops abusers?
Lets see all your businesses... You all bought shops and I did not see even 10 MANAGERS who really work with their business... You are going to kidnap or making fun for you, while your businesses are visited by random guys...

You have and advantage over cops as you can make minimum two businesses at the same time - your shop which brings enter fees and your own roleplaying... Cops are the one who really need to work to gain any amount...

Cops abusers?
Lets see how many non-cops are shooting and ramming people... You think not being a cop will stop them from deathmatching? no...

Cops abusers?
The new player will not start work as cop in one minute... He should minimum ask the chat how actually he can become as a cop...

Cops abusers?
Yeah I was reading those complains "I rammed a cop by accident and he f**king suspected me"... WTF is that? 90% of complains on cops - criminals disagree to be wanted, even thou behave themselves on the streets not much better... Cops actually can suspect you even for reckless driving on Pershing square, or on city grass/parks places, right side of the road, did not obeying the police forces to move your asses from police parking slots...

true I get pm ed :Iggy Iggy i was abused then I check with whitnesses and hear the guy was shooting around wildly or carjacking

BUT Nobody ever told me you could own 2 bussinesses   :wow: do you need to pay of your loan before you can do that (just so I can help people who ask I cant afford it anyway)