Do you Believe in God?

[John_Vaughan]

First of all,
I am a christan, and i go to church every sunday, so, to answer the topic.

Yes in bold

kk

Now,

Your questions.

1. God does not want to be the "Puppet master" and make us the "Puppets"
god gives us a choice.
Simple.

2. God dosen't really "Let" Satan do this.
He dosen't go
"Oh, there's satan again, doing his thing"
Well, yes, he does, but i doubt he allows it.

It goes like this

Satan-->Human-->Sin

So, basically, back to answer one.
God gives us a choice.



3. Once again. You have a choice to follow god or not.

If you belive Jesus died for you = Hevean
If you don't = Hell

Its basic as that.

I hope that answered a bit for you.


<3

Ohh Thank you a lot, You made me remember also of a very important thing that I forgot to post and that may contradict your large post:

If God gave us a choice then, Why then we get punished and go to Hell for our choice? If God gave us total freedom, and then he punishes us for what we chose and rewards the others who chose what GOD Wanted then?
Totally not fair...

Basically, we made the mistake

We ate the fruit, or w/e

We sinned first.
tada!
sin is now here.


So, its out faults  :hit:

It is our fault? Once again, God gave us the freedom to do what we wanted to do, Adam and Eve chose to eat the fruit, and then Humanity gets punished forever (More than 46 Million of Years)? Nice "father"

Didn't we have the freedom to do what we chose? And then we get punished by our decisions?

And to your 3rd point: Indeed that IS Terrorism...

[Husky]

I dont know what to answer.
I'm confused...

same

[Tice]

UberPwner, do you believe in evolution?

[Merc]

"Fate is what you call it when you don't know the guy's name who screwed you over"

Fate is basically going with the flow, an event or a course of events that will inevitably happen in the future.
Fate is the consequence of your choices.

[Gandalf]

UberPwner, do you believe in evolution?

Wrong question. You either accept or reject a scientific theory. You either believe or not in a deity. Do not mix these two concepts...

[sinamun]

Wrong question. You either accept or reject a scientific theory. You either believe or not in a deity. Do not mix these two concepts...

were learning this exact shit in RS atm in year 8,
are you a teacher gandalf or what,
cuz u make more sence than mine ^o)

[Samaron]

Wrong question. You either accept or reject a scientific theory. You either believe or not in a deity. Do not mix these two concepts...

There are religious people who say that god put dinosours in the earth to test our fate.

[Call_me_Dad]

I always wonder, when was the topic "god" first talked about?
And i try to answer myself, going back a hundred centuries....
The first civilisation- Egyptians, Harappans (indus valley, now india)

I dont know much about Egyptians
But being an Indian i have studied the less known Harappan civ.

So i believe there must be some old scholars who later turned to be the founder of relegions.

They studied about human values, life and propogated terms like Karma, Peace, non violience etc.
But it must have challenged them how to propagate there teachings.
Religion was the way.

Maybe they got some followers, they teached them everything they knew. it was the education at that time
No proves, No derivations, No reasons  just experimentation and experience.
So heres i think relegion started with the founders just creating an Image called "God", and people worshipping it.

Well, it really helped them
e.g  they were confident about the beliefs of their teachers,
The founders aiming for goodwill told them to worship god for good luck
they did, confidently...
and the confidence bought them luck, it is the state of mind that makes you succeed
but they think that it was god
so they told there geneartions, who told there generation, who told there generations
and god is worshipped till today..

Well opinions of gods existence differs from person to person

as if, someone believes in god(confidently)
he worships god for luck (in a good state of mind, confidently),he gets lucky.... if you are confident, your mind steady in 90% cases you succeed  

but IF YOU DONT SUCCEED??
well the scholars in ancient time were too good..
they told- "God helps those, who help themselves", "You must have commited a crime, so god punishes you with bad luck"
so the person recalls if he committed a sin?? yes he does, humans make mistakes
so he assumes that god will help him next time, which becomes true
his belief increases


Now there are people who dont believe in god, but they try there best...
they are always troubled by something in back of their head that says "God doesnt exist"
so they are not confident, always in doubt that will god bring them luck??
that is why they fail..." You think you will lose, you are lost"... its all in the state of mind
there disbelief increases, and one fine day they say "No god for me"

So i conclude
1.  "God brings luck to those who are his pure believer"
2.  "Never 'TRY' worshiping god, you'l end up bad"
3.  "Your Brain is your God"
4.  "Theres no Heaven or Hell"
5.  "Education is the capitalism derived meaning of the ancient relegion, every relegion aims the same thing in a   different language"
6. All my conclusions are based on my assumptions, so they are possibly wrong

[UberPwner]

UberPwner, do you believe in evolution?

In my opinion. It is a load of garbage. hey, we might have slightly same DNA patterns, but 
IN MY OPNION its rubbish.

Ohh Thank you a lot, You made me remember also of a very important thing that I forgot to post and that may contradict your large post:

If God gave us a choice then, Why then we get punished and go to Hell for our choice? If God gave us total freedom, and then he punishes us for what we chose and rewards the others who chose what GOD Wanted then?
Totally not fair...


It is our fault? Once again, God gave us the freedom to do what we wanted to do, Adam and Eve chose to eat the fruit, and then Humanity gets punished forever (More than 46 Million of Years)? Nice "father"

Didn't we have the freedom to do what we chose? And then we get punished by our decisions?

And to your 3rd point: Indeed that IS Terrorism...

Well, yes, thats it,

He dosent want to force you, but for you to find a way, to actually believe in it.
If if you dont.. well, you know where you go.

 :rules:

[VMNT]

You know what's weird?

Using science to prove god's existence...

[John_Vaughan]

Well, yes, thats it,

He dosent want to force you, but for you to find a way, to actually believe in it.
If if you dont.. well, you know where you go.
 :rules:

Bold Text: Right, He doesn't want to force me, But You do. Thats what I hate of Christianity. If you say something against their religion, They go balls out and can not tolerate if someone's against them. I do believe in God, I do, But Am against some of Christianity facts...

Underline Text: Thats the only shield You know how to use well? Why you said that to me? Because You know what I said is true and it does contradict Christianity's facts, But It's not your fault, You were educated as Christian since you got born, Well, Hard to talk with those kind of people...

Also, I did not like what you said in the Underline text. That's what Terrorism is. "if you dont do what I tell, you die, go to hell, will suffer etternally, bla bla bla..."

Typical Christian. Didn't Jesus teach you to Respect the other's beliefs? Then please Respect us. No need to threaten us that we will go to hell... You know, Thats how Terrorists and Nazis act, And I don't think you agree with Terrorist and Nazis, Right?

[Neave]

Well, you can't see air, but you can breathe it ... I believe in God.

you cant see water (if pure).. but you can feel it. you cant see air because it is pure and you can feel it when you inhale and exhale

i dont belivie in a single god.. but more of a group of "gods" or creation machines.. theres no proof for god, nor is there any against it/. but there is proof of the
Big Bang Theory.. which is the theory behind the cration of the universe

bottom line, i dont belive in god, i belive in science

[Jserg]

No.


God made the world in 7 days? = Sp33dh4x.

Maxy i have to disagree with you...At orthodox,bible says that God build everything in 7 days,not 24 hours a day...he said a day could be 1 hour or 100 years So he didnt hacked....

[Abraham]

I dont know what to answer.
I'm confused...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

*starts recruiting*

[Matthew_Cipricla]

you gotta think who made the big bang happen. its not just like it appeared out of jack sh*t....