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Do you Believe in God?

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Reply #135 on: June 30, 2008, 08:07:25 pm
WTC was not made of fire or blood. When it collapsed there was almost no fire. There is no way a prophecy would have described a tall building with people as a mountain.
They would have called it a Tower.
And most of them are advocated by religions.
The Flood is said to have covered all mountains on our planet. Not just one city.
While I agree it may have been an event like this described as the Flood, that does not make the rest of the story absolute truth.
Could you get me a link to where it is recorded in the excavated records ?
I have not found anything.
What is it going to take for you to say that he is not real ?


This annoys me (not what you're saying Gandalf...)... these so called Christians have only one book, the bible. That's all they have, they read and take all out of context.

You have to relate it to what's happening, like the one about the earth being made in 6 days. It may not be 6 days of 24 hours, but could be of 10 billion years...

They read the bible and believe all of it. When your friends say something happened, they make it more interesting to try and stop you being bored with it...

It's the same in the Bible (IMO).


There's evidence for things, sure. But you believe that one man filled his boat with 2 of every animal, and they survived a world flood?

Think outside the box here. Don't just sit there reading this one book. RC has many books, and they're all used IN CONTEXT.






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Reply #136 on: June 30, 2008, 08:19:42 pm
Prophecies in the book of Revelation that have been fulfilled.

1. "A mountain made of fire mingled with blood shall fall to the earth"
-This prophecy was fulfilled on September 11, 2001, when the World Trade
 Center, fell to the ground in a flaming explosion that killed hundreds. The
 fire is the explosion and the blood is the blood of the people that
 perished on that fateful day.
hum, you'd been better of saying pompei...
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Reply #137 on: June 30, 2008, 09:05:39 pm
This annoys me (not what you're saying Gandalf...)... these so called Christians have only one book, the bible. That's all they have, they read and take all out of context.
You have to relate it to what's happening, like the one about the earth being made in 6 days. It may not be 6 days of 24 hours, but could be of 10 billion years...
They read the bible and believe all of it. When your friends say something happened, they make it more interesting to try and stop you being bored with it...
It's the same in the Bible (IMO).

There's evidence for things, sure. But you believe that one man filled his boat with 2 of every animal, and they survived a world flood?
Think outside the box here. Don't just sit there reading this one book. RC has many books, and they're all used IN CONTEXT.
Yeah Johannes, I know that you have probably already studied more of the Bible than any of those who feel it is all a true story, and there is much more to come...
It is a pity that for many the true meaning of the Bible (and other religious books) remains hidden.

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Reply #138 on: June 30, 2008, 09:15:48 pm
I am Athiest because due to a few things in the world combined with a few things in the bible i have decided that the existence of a god is completely impossible.

1. A lot of shit happens - If there was a god he would stop it
2. A lot of people don't believe in God - If god existed he would have absolute power over everything and therefore people's minds and he would make people believe in him.
3. Where the f**k is he?
4. Gay Sex is meant to be unnatural - now i myself may not be gay but i believe strongly that what is less natural than gay sex is no sex at all. Get laid people!

Plus more.

Let me explain you cause i think u are a small kid and dont study

1 . God gaves us the Free will...We can do whatever we want
2 .  Free will . Why God should come here and make us believe in him?
3 . Somewhere that our humanity small brain cant imagine or see
4 hmm?



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Reply #139 on: June 30, 2008, 09:23:58 pm
Yeah Johannes, I know that you have probably already studied more of the Bible than any of those who feel it is all a true story, and there is much more to come...
It is a pity that for many the true meaning of the Bible (and other religious books) remains hidden.

Well sort of. I don't "study" it.  There are some parts of the new testament which make sense.

Most of (if not all) of the Old Testament comes from Jewish Scripture, so in my mind, although some applies, most doesn't...

Sure, readings at Mass are taken from the Bible, but I'm not like some of these others quoting from the Bible every 5 seconds saying "Repent or you'll all die and go to hell". I let people believe what they want, as long as they let me do the same...


People who just  know the bible and no other book need to read around a bit. "Christianity" is the universal Christian faith - "Catholic". Coming from the Greek for "Universal".

It annoys me that the Bible is the only thing they have to do...



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Reply #140 on: June 30, 2008, 09:34:42 pm
It annoys me that the Bible is the only thing they have to do...


And who doesn't let you to believe and choose what you want?



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Reply #141 on: June 30, 2008, 09:36:33 pm
And who doesn't let you to believe and choose what you want?

The king who wanted to divorce his wife, so that the whole church became separated into hundreds of cults...



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Reply #142 on: June 30, 2008, 09:43:20 pm
LOL look what I had today.

I was on the PC and then the doorbell ringed... 2 english ppl were in front of the door. (they spoke a little bit netherlands too) They asked me if I believed in god. I said no. Then they asked me to talk to my parents about that. My parents were'nt home. They said to me: We want to show you what God means to us people. Then I said: ooooohwkeee? :roll: Then they said: Have a nice day... ROFL. :rofl:

Well it is pretty funny if you are'nt christian... :redface:


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Reply #143 on: June 30, 2008, 09:46:19 pm
The last time someone tried they were almost converted to my side.  ;)

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Reply #144 on: July 01, 2008, 03:14:01 am
LOL look what I had today.

I was on the PC and then the doorbell ringed... 2 english ppl were in front of the door. (they spoke a little bit netherlands too) They asked me if I believed in god. I said no. Then they asked me to talk to my parents about that. My parents were'nt home. They said to me: We want to show you what God means to us people. Then I said: ooooohwkeee? :roll: Then they said: Have a nice day... ROFL. :rofl:

Well it is pretty funny if you are'nt christian... :redface:

That thing in Greece is illigal....Coming to your house and telling you about other religions..



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Reply #145 on: July 01, 2008, 03:26:28 am
yeah "cults". the thing that annoys me about protestants and most christians is that they study the bible and only take its word and if something isnt it in then it is either evil or doesnt exist.



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Reply #146 on: July 01, 2008, 03:30:14 am
most christians is that they study the bible and only take its word and if something isnt it in then it is either evil or doesnt exist.

Nobody said that...


(Example

Did the bible said anything about Argonath rpg?

No

Its good?

No,its awesome )

joking...



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Reply #147 on: July 01, 2008, 03:44:18 am
sorry i should be more specific such as religious stuff the Catholic church supports such as:
purgatory,
prayer to Mary,
prayer to saints,
the Sacrament of Reconciliation,
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Reply #148 on: July 01, 2008, 06:16:05 am
For starters I do believe in god...and other who dosent believe and believes in this Evolution or Darwin crap..lets just say get a life.

Why Do I Believe in God, Few thing's id like to say if I must :

1-The universe is made up so correctly and every thing in place, could that not be done by some 1?
(Evolution Believers say An Explosion was made, How could a BOMB make every thing go in place? Explain!? )

2-Each actor needs to be acted (By Some 1),Such as This world....

And theres lots  of stuff that I can say ....

Any way, People who dosent believe in god says all the time, if god exists and hes such a nice person ..then why people suffer and die and we pray and pray and dont get back....lets just say BE ASHAMED TO ASK THAT QUISTIONE!

Do you know why god dosent want to help us !? Few things:-

1-ًًُWeve known god..yet we didnt give him hes rights
2-We read hes bibels...we dont follow them
3-We blamed the devil for making us go the bad ways...and yet we follow hes steps(Following the steps of the devil)
4-We said we love heaven and we didnt work for it
5-Ù‹We took god's gifts such as food, Life, Oxygen, Water and freedom and didnt thank him yet

Lets look at these five points..think of god as your teacher...if u did these thing's to your teacher Would he give u a high mark?? would he thank you for it??? i think not...So For all who says We pray and dont get ...Do shut up please!


Other people say: We dont see god why should we believe in him...!
Guys...a short story if to read:

A guy came back from Europe, hes head was filled with all of Darwin's crap and evolution ...when he got home ...kiss mommy kiss daddy.. hes dad told him ..Sun you coming to pray to day? he said I will not antill  some one answer's me 3 quistiones..Hes dad said go ahead son ask (talking shockingly).

1-Why dont we see god?
2-What is Eradication and Fate?
3-If the devil is made of fire,how come he burns in hell?

Hes dad didnt know how to answer..although brought people who might ...yet no one could.
Then lastly some old guy came, hes well known as smart and knows how to answer tricky quistiones...
The guy asked the kid: what are you quiestiones? he told him the quistiones then all of a sudden the old guy stood up and slapped that kid in the face.
The kid said what the hell ...Why did u do that? he said thats ur answer..the kid said i dont understand..!

The old guy said For your first quis...When i hit u did u feel Pain ? he said yes..then he continued Do u see Pain? he said no ...heres ur answer (We dont see god yet we feel him)

Second question: About fate...The old guy said: Did u know that i was about to hit you? he said no...he said thats Fate and Eradication...You dont know wth is coming!

3rd question: About the devil...the old guy said what is the devil made from the kid said Fire and what is hell made from he said Fire ...then he continued on what is ur face made of he said Skin and the old guy said what is my hand made of he said skin..then the old guy said here you go Devil in fire Skin to skin.....
The kid didnt know what to say..he pulled hes self up and went praying with out saying a word

I continue my subject With ...Evolution crap believers ....Please oh Please get a Life!


*last but not least this video is from youtube i'd like you to watch it and see things your self*

(Please you dont wanna miss this ...Watch it if u want but its really great and 100% will make u believe.

I finish my subject with saying..am so happy to say i believe in god and am proud to be a muslim.

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Reply #149 on: July 01, 2008, 06:50:01 am
I myself am agnostic, which means us as human beings are not to say whether a god exists or not, but personally I believe that there is a god who started the source of life. In my opinion the world would be a much better place without religion. I believe in science, but no science will ever be able to prove if their is or not a god. There is no way we will know unless this being actually speaks to us. But something had to create the universe, if god is a being of some sort.

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