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Do you Believe in God?

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Reply #150 on: July 01, 2008, 06:56:29 am
wow wtf... that video  is amazing. I really do think there is an allah, but i'm not going to say 'wtf omg allah is real i r muslim.'

I'm just going to belive in him, i'm not going to be all crazy and say 'wtf see this video it proves allah is real now BELIEVE OR I KILL U'

And yes i do belive in god, but it is so hard to with what happens to people, like WTC, why would this happen?

and why are some people not even able to have a home and most likely die every day? Why are there poisons? 


The 2 greatest questions in the world: if god made 'us' then who made 'god' himself? He couldn't of done it if he wasn't born or alive.

And, does space ever end? And if so, what is there? nothing? How far does space go..



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Reply #151 on: July 01, 2008, 03:03:06 pm
Just because God makes bad things happen, doesnt mean that He is an asshole.
OK, Id I have a power to stop an robbery but I don't. I am an asshole because I didn't do it.
But if God won't stop it, it is a "higher purpose" and he isn't an asshole?


Look:God is beyond Man's understanding, so it is only natural that there are people
 who would denounce God as a myth.
Dumb peoples are also beyond my understanding, but I still understand they are dumb.

Look, read the Bible. You will find Prophecies
 that have been fulfilled.


Proof that the Bible is telling the Truth
-A city has been found in Mesopotamia under a vast, thick layer of clay which was
 left by a flood of immense magnitude: The Flood.
-The ancient cities of Babylon, Nineveh, Susa, and more have been excavated.
 Whats more: the date of the fall of Babylon corresponds to the day AFTER a
 mysterious floating hand wrote on the wall in front of King Belshazzar the words
 mene mene, tekel tekel. It is recorded BOTH in the Bible and the excavated
 records at Babylon.
-And many others which I dont know.
Oh, so when a guy wrote some history down in a book, it means that everything else what he wrote there must be also true. OK I will write a book, where I say that some of the houses were damaged due to a tsunami in Asia. Also that in the New World a hurricane took away lot's of people's home (Hurricane Katrina). <- truth. Also there I am rebirth of Odin and my brother is Thor. And because the Hurricane and Tsunami thing was true, it must be too.  :roll:

WHAT is it going to take to convince these people that there is a God and that
He is real? 'Seeing is believing' IS rubbish. Just because you cant see God or
God hasnt personally spoken to you, doesnt mean that he doesnt exist. When
you cut yourself, you dont see pain but you feel it. When you touch an Ice Cube,
you dont see cold but you feel it. When you fall to the ground, you dont see Gravity
but its there, pulling you down 24/7. Like Arjun said, when you dont take in air, you
dont see the need for more but you realise it.

To be honest, who needs proof?
Ok let's then say, that we don't sense God's present. We don't see,taste, feel, hear nor smell him.

And we do not try to be real life, as why would you ever play real life if you have one ? We play the GTA universe, and our players should try to live in the GTA world, not the real one.



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Reply #152 on: July 01, 2008, 03:35:52 pm
For starters I do believe in god...and other who dosent believe and believes in this Evolution or Darwin crap..lets just say get a life.
Thank you for showing tolerance towards other beliefs as yours.


1-The universe is made up so correctly and every thing in place, could that not be done by some 1?
(Evolution Believers say An Explosion was made, How could a BOMB make every thing go in place? Explain!? )
What exactly do you mean by 'made correctly' and 'every thing in place' ? What have you studied or seen about the Universe that makes you say this ?
Evolution does not handle the origin of the universe or the origin of life. Do not spread misinformation.
And last the 'big bang' was not an explosion....

2-Each actor needs to be acted (By Some 1),Such as This world....
Then what about free will ?

Do you know why god dosent want to help us !? Few things:-

1-ًًُWeve known god..yet we didnt give him hes rights
2-We read hes bibels...we dont follow them
3-We blamed the devil for making us go the bad ways...and yet we follow hes steps(Following the steps of the devil)
4-We said we love heaven and we didnt work for it
5-Ù‹We took god's gifts such as food, Life, Oxygen, Water and freedom and didnt thank him yet

Lets look at these five points..think of god as your teacher...if u did these thing's to your teacher Would he give u a high mark?? would he thank you for it??? i think not...So For all who says We pray and dont get ...Do shut up please!
So the loving, kind and forgiving God who knows and sees all is enraged by not being asskissed by everyone and there for does not do anything for those who do care ?


Other people say: We dont see god why should we believe in him...!
Guys...a short story if to read:

A guy came back from Europe, hes head was filled with all of Darwin's crap and evolution ...when he got home ...kiss mommy kiss daddy.. hes dad told him ..Sun you coming to pray to day? he said I will not antill  some one answer's me 3 quistiones..Hes dad said go ahead son ask (talking shockingly).
Apart from bashing Europe as non-religious (although the largest current religion originates from European roots) this guy is asking religious questions that have nothing to do with evolution or Darwin. Again misinformation.

I continue my subject With ...Evolution crap believers ....Please oh Please get a Life!
*last but not least this video is from youtube i'd like you to watch it and see things your self*
I finish my subject with saying..am so happy to say i believe in god and am proud to be a muslim.
Thank You: LeonSforza
Again a highly display of tolerance for other beliefs.
Regarding the video.. cut open a number of fruits and eggs... and find any kind of words in Arabic. I bet you will find more common words...
You see only what you want to see, you hear only what you want to hear. That makes you seeing blind and hearing deaf.
Remember those words ?

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Reply #153 on: July 01, 2008, 03:43:50 pm
That thing in Greece is illigal....Coming to your house and telling you about other religions..
OMG, thats a very good law!!! I hate Jeova witnesses!



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Reply #154 on: July 01, 2008, 03:48:25 pm
But they still coming...You can call the police and they will be jailed or fined :)



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Reply #155 on: July 01, 2008, 03:52:26 pm
But they still coming...You can call the police and they will be jailed or fined :)
Time for the church of Argonath to step up and recruit believers.  :rofl:

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Reply #156 on: July 01, 2008, 03:52:45 pm
But they still coming...You can call the police and they will be jailed or fined :)
Can we shoot them?



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Reply #157 on: July 01, 2008, 04:21:19 pm
For starters I do believe in god...and other who dosent believe and believes in this Evolution or Darwin crap..lets just say get a life.

"For starters I do believe in evolution... and others who don't believe and believe in this "God" crap.. lets just say get a life."

To be completely honest, thats what I believe. But did you see me blatantly making a point of it? No. Because that is insensitive to their beliefs.

People are entitled to believe whatever they want. If I think that what they think is wrong, so what? I'm not gonna turn up at their door like "Save yourself! God isn't Real! Don't waste your life praying!" - because that would be pretty stupid.

As I've said, I'd rather take my chance living a full life and then, in the off chance religion is actually correct, go to hell; than spend my whole life praying and worshipping and then, you're dead.

Even so, I believe that if there is any kind of 'afterlife' it has nothing at all to do with religion. If there actually is a concept of 'heaven' and 'hell', then heaven would be attained by living a good, kind, generous, useful life. Not by sitting in a church talking into your hands. You know?

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Reply #158 on: July 01, 2008, 07:11:24 pm
Gandlaf i think u got me wrong..do understand what i say :)...

oh and btw Evolution is against Religion and god...thats what i mean!
and by the world made correctly ....such as the Sun ....the sun is Made in Place (Made correctly) if the sun moved 1 meter from its place world might burn...or might start Ice age...



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Reply #159 on: July 01, 2008, 07:25:06 pm
You believe because you don't know how what to think about life etc... so you just follow others.

Gandlaf i think u got me wrong..do understand what i say :)...

oh and btw Evolution is against Religion and god...thats what i mean!
and by the world made correctly ....such as the Sun ....the sun is Made in Place (Made correctly) if the sun moved 1 meter from its place world might burn...or might start Ice age...

Some say we have some extreme weather around the world at the moment cause we're just coming out of an Ice Age.
And what about comets etc.. If they were out of place? Comets move about and nearly hit earth and sh*t, I dont get your out of place stuff, anyone who believes that needs to get a life...  :lol: (joke)

Oh yea, 'bout the 'Big bang' theory, it is mean't that the universe was a small particle, and it exploded because so much pressure was in the particle and the universe flew out, well.. you get my drift, the universe is always expanding because of this explosion outwards. Its more of an explanation, not a story like religion, thats the difference between science and religion.



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Reply #160 on: July 01, 2008, 07:40:38 pm
Gandlaf i think u got me wrong..do understand what i say :)...

oh and btw Evolution is against Religion and god...thats what i mean!
and by the world made correctly ....such as the Sun ....the sun is Made in Place (Made correctly) if the sun moved 1 meter from its place world might burn...or might start Ice age...
If Evolution is against religion and God, then why does the Pope think it is a possible theory for the development of life after creation ?
I would say that the Pope would at least not be against Religion....
And the position of the Earth to the Sun is not static at all... its not a perfect circle. We could be 100.000 kilometer closer without a lot of trouble.
If you want to know about something, have the courage to study it. You do not have to agree or accept the theories, but should at least know what they are about and where they come from.


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Reply #161 on: July 02, 2008, 02:50:07 am
Gandlaf,the Pope is Christian ..i wouldn't take any thing that he says...such as an advice or what ever he said.....

And 2nd ...i did study the sun and if we moved we would freeze or burn alive...u study not me  ;)

i know what am saying and will know what am saying.....

And no offense to Christians but their religion is weak.....u could make them go wrong easily such as the pope did ....like what u said about him....Christians can turn their we in 1 word...... (My respect to all religions)
 
still i say god exists and for ever will....Till judgment day



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still i say god exists and for ever will....Till judgment day



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Reply #162 on: July 02, 2008, 03:15:07 am
you can be christian and believe in the big bang theory and evolution, because the bible says that the earth was made in 7 days, and God made people, it never said that God couldnt of used evolution or the big bang, so if you say evolution is against religion then you obviously dont know much.  :neutral:

and leon your not finishing the subject with your lines of christians being "weak". and personally no i dont know what your saying because you obviously arent christians so you have no right to say sh*t about the Pope or any christians unless you actually take time and study them.....



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Reply #163 on: July 02, 2008, 03:42:09 am
Matthew, I was thinking exactly that... not that I believe in the big bang theory, but just saying that a lot of these theories can be put together and match what the Bible says.



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Reply #164 on: July 02, 2008, 09:03:36 am
If Evolution is against religion and God, then why does the Pope think it is a possible theory for the development of life after creation ?
I would say that the Pope would at least not be against Religion....
And the position of the Earth to the Sun is not static at all... its not a perfect circle. We could be 100.000 kilometer closer without a lot of trouble.
If you want to know about something, have the courage to study it. You do not have to agree or accept the theories, but should at least know what they are about and where they come from.





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