Merc's roleplaying TIPS

[Aragorn]

All who like this TIPS idea can read it, if you don't like it then just leave it and carry on roleplaying as you are, said and done.

The same... Use this tips for YOURSELF please... And do not piss off if others find it absurd... Also do not call them non-RPers... Just live with it...

[WDoyle]

I agree with Aragorn.
Fucking ridiculous I use lol in real life Dont try and tell me thats it not used in  real life because it is.
If you cannot cope with peoples rps then just relax and leave it not make a topic that makes people pissed off

Merc, Take Aragorns advice

[Merc]

It is not meant to piss people off and it was only 1 part that I wrote about,  you see mafias and gangstas in real life saying "ell ohh ell"?, If you roleplay yourself ingame then no problem by all means do it, thats my opinion, as I said before if you think this pisses you off then leave the topic.

[Aragorn]

as I said before if you think this pisses you off then leave the topic.

Depends what else you will start telling about all those who are not agree with your vision... If it will be continued as propaganda "I am giving you the better RP", then sorry, the thread will be under watch... If overtaken - locked...
So not your business to tell me - be here or leave...
The one who was pissed off - is you, and you admit it... So please do not start putting on others shoulders own negative...

[Merc]

There is no need for him to flame the topic :devroll: why doesn't he just stay out of it?

[JJ]

Now everybody should say sorry to eachother, and everybody still friends.
And make this topic sticky...

[Grovyle]

Now everybody should say sorry to eachother, and everybody still friends.
And make this topic sticky...

Why sticky?

Lets see my opinion:

1. People pulling out guns from thin air.
- Dont pull M4's or Mic or any weapon from thin air. If your in a vehicle just use '/me loads a clip into his M4.' and then step out of the car with that weapon in your hand, or if your on foot and have a pistol use '/me takes out his pistol from his waistband.' something along those lines.


2. Dual Weapons
- Try retain yourself from using dual weapons like Sawn-off shotguns or Tec9 on foot, this just creates people running around in circles trying to take each others HP health down, doing this is provocation of Deathmatch. This is VERY unrealistic. You can use Dual weapons for passenger Drive-by's but that should be it.


3. Police driving random vehicles.
- Do not drive random vehicles thinking your undercover. If there are not enough police cruisers around, then take a ride from an Officer who does have one. Try not to use Cheetah's for chasing down suspects because that is very unrealistic.


4. Language during roleplay
- "Stfu, lol, omg, wtf, lmao" are all examples of non-roleplay language used during roleplay. It is not hard to change from this "Omg nice car man" to this "Dude nice car". Same as "Stfu man, you ain't doing yourself any favours." and replace it with "Shut it man, you ain't doing yourself any favours." Change your language and stop the nonsense.


5. Bunny hopping
- I class this as a form of powergaming, getting an advantage over other players, although anyone can use it, for instance look out of your window. Do you see any people hopping down the street? No, didn't think so. So please refrane from using 'Bunny hopping' and just tap the sprint button and you will still go pretty fast.


6. GPS System
- If someone is running away from you on foot on in car and you lose them, cut off the roleplay right there. If you have used any of these lines before "Mate use /area ID to find him!" "Look on the map cops come lets go" you are just not roleplaying right. If you lose them on foot and they are hiding somewhere, just let the roleplay go and it will soon follow up.


7. OOC and IC confusion
- Some people I roleplay with ingame get confused with 'In Character' and 'Out Of Character' chat when they are using the "/l" command. All you need to do is put some (( brackets )) around your speech during roleplay. It is very easy and I hope most of you use this technique.
*/l (( I like roleplaying ))
*/l I like roleplaying


8. Random Roleplay
- I have seen people being stupid during roleplay. Like taking a granny skin and dancing in the middle of a gangsta ghetto hood and using things like '/me wants sex!!' and things like '/l C'mon lets have sexual intercourse!'... I mean c'mon, you could do this as OOC roleplaying but dont be stupid and act right and realistic during roleplay.


9. Attempt during roleplay
- Try using '/me attempts to grab John.' and not things like '/me grabs John punches him in the face and karate kicks him in the balls'. Sad to say it is just not realistic. Try giving each other a chance during roleplay by using the "attempt" method.


10. Eyes in the back of your head
- Someone is smoking weed around the corner as the police are driving by. The police cannot see the heroin taker but see the "[Rstar]Merc smokes some weed, getting high." in main chat. So they arrest the guy and that is that. This is almost metagaming and really the police should not see the weed smoker and should have just strolled past normally on patrol. (not offending any police officers or ARPD)


11. All cars are unlocked!
- Seriously c'mon. In real life all cars are not unlocked. Roleplay hotwiring a car with a screwdriver or something. I'm sick of suspects hopping into different cars when they explode. You should just try roleplay hotwiring it up, and if the police point guns at you, just give up.


12. Invincible
- Some players think they are superman, they have a gun pointed at there face and just hit the robber and run. Seriously act right! If you have a gun in your face, act scared!

1. Ridicoulous, if you'r a cop or criminal and in an extreme situation and 1337 NEED to do that, you'r fried...

2. Huh? And if no one comes pick you up? Imagine that.

3. Extreme situation thingy please?

4. It's not that so unrealistic, loads of people say abreviations too, like me, sometimes I say "lol" at RL.

5. My last reply at Hayden's topic is the answer for that.

6. Huh? So what... That is the SAME THING as that topic long time ago to remove GPS System...

7. I like that tip.

8. That made me LMAO (the part of "ME WANT SEXZZZ!!"), who cares tho... He/She is just roleplaying a Psycho...

9. I like a bit...

10. Who cares.

11. I don't type at speed of light even if I type very fast for a kid, just imagine that he/she is doing that... But with no indications tho...

12. There are people that WANT to defend themselfs, or that have no fear (or just have a bit), then they attack and run before the robber gets him...


No more comments from me.

[Fatboy_Rob]

Grovyle, I'm gonna ask you a question.

What in the fuck are you ranting on about?
This topic isn't about "Hey guys, check these tips out, what do you think of them? Please, tell me good & bad comments about them."
No, its TIPS. More or less like "Here are some tips from a good roleplayer, read if you want."

Thank you.

[Pandalink]

"Here are some tips from a good roleplayer, read if you want."

Whether the Tips are good roleplay or not is opinion.

[Fatboy_Rob]

Then go open a topic titled "Merc's tips, how much do they suck?"
And to rub the salt in the wound, go make a poll.

[Fatboy_Rob]

Bah who cares. All this arguing pisses me off.

* Fatboy_Rob walks out of this topic

[Aragorn]

Why giving not supported TIPs?
I can understand tips, that are by default are correct...
You gave tips, that are going even against Argonath way of roleplay...
Is that clear?
That is why you got here opinion on it...
If it could be 100% supported by administration - give whatever tips... But do not give those, which are not correct in developers' vision...
I think it should be more understandable now...

[Grovyle]

I was only giving my opinion, sheesh...

[Poncho]

I just read the whole topic from my last post (page 1 me thinks) and jesus! It's all got a bit hairy  Why don't we all stop and realise other people have other opinions.

Yes, Merc shouldn't have got on the defencive when there was opposition to his "tips" as they are supposed to be seen as tips, and he contradicted himself there.

Also aragorn, I understand your point that he shouldn't call his tips "rp tips" as it is his view of RP and not something that is set in stone. I have agreed with what you have said, especially the blackmail part, but you maybe got too much on the defencive too. I know you just want your points to be known as you want to defend your creation and I totally agree with that, but to me, the language seemed a bit too strong.

Gandalf, I have agreed with everything you've said and I understand the concept of argonath properly now and I love it.

Maybe there should be a page about the concept of Argonath, a free community for everyone. It is surely the best server on SAMP, even with the little things that, in my opinion, could change. But that's just my opinion and so I don't want someone trying to flame me about it 

We have to remember that Argonath is free, it is free for you to play how you want to play. We also need to remember that we are playing a game, it is meant to be fun, so if someone gets a granny skin and dances in a ghetto and they and others are having fun from that, what's wrong? The only time it would be wrong is if it interfered with others' fun (RP situation maybe). If you want to do something because it is fun and doesn't break the little rules that there are, do it.

Let's keep our opinions intact an realise we are all individual.

A man is getting along on the road to wisdom when he begins to realize that his opinion is just an opinion.

“Opinion has caused more trouble on this little earth than plagues or earthquakes”

[Aragorn]

Also aragorn, I understand your point that he shouldn't call his tips "rp tips" as it is his view of RP and not something that is set in stone. I have agreed with what you have said, especially the blackmail part, but you maybe got too much on the defencive too. I know you just want your points to be known as you want to defend your creation and I totally agree with that, but to me, the language seemed a bit too strong.

I can understand your position...

We had such discussions before... Always were telling our positions... And now it came already as a TIPs recommendations... its like developers position is totally ignored...

I was watching topic and treated to it as to "ideas"... While I did not see that in topic discussion actually were touched Argonath itself and our (developers) vision...
I counted the words "Why you call yourselves Argonath RPG and not Argonath developing roleplayers" as personal attack against us and offense... As it was said by regular veteran and admin - double offense...