[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Cyril]

Question : We are 5 guys at GS9, one of us is suspected and a cop approach him and start beating him and attempt to arrest him. Can we help the suspect ?

[Cutt3r]

Question : We are 5 guys at GS9, one of us is suspected and a cop approach him and start beating him and attempt to arrest him. Can we help the suspect ?

As a general rule, attacking a cop when he suspects one of your gang members is not allowed. Cops have no roleplay method of knowing if other people nearby are friends or just random civilians. Typical example of this is a group of people standing at Pershing square and one of them being a suspect. Other members cannot attack the cop in this case, it would just be deathmatching.

Exception - when the cop suspects and attacks one of the gang members while in the HQ, the other gang members can help protect their suspected gang member, if the cop gets too persuasive. In such a situation cops should expect that other people in the HQ are allied with the suspect. Cops cannot expect other gang members or friends to stand and watch while a member is being beaten up.

[Pandalink]

Pretty sure that it's been said in the past by Aragorn that tagged members are allowed to assist (as you can clearly tell who is with who).

[Dutchy]

Since i9 has closed and they're now just 'ballas', can every balla aid the suspected balla?

[Cutt3r]

Pretty sure that it's been said in the past by Aragorn that tagged members are allowed to assist (as you can clearly tell who is with who).

Some time ago, we were told otherwise. Nonetheless will point Gandalf to this topic and ask him for his view. Thanks.

[Cyril]

Alright thanks. But can GS9 be considered as a "HQ" or it's not possible since it's a public area ?

[Gandalf]

Question : We are 5 guys at GS9, one of us is suspected and a cop approach him and start beating him and attempt to arrest him. Can we help the suspect ?

As long as you do not shoot or beat the cop without warning you can help.
It would help even more if the suspect would not ignore the cop until he is allowed to use force, as ignoring is basicly provocation to use violence.

[Gandalf]

Since i9 has closed and they're now just 'ballas', can every balla aid the suspected balla?

We are not a Team DM server.

[Dutchy]

We are not a Team DM server.

I know, but this is a difficult situation, because when a driver gets pulled over, a mafia member, with 3 other armed mafia members and the driver gets suspected and runs of, the passengers are allowed to shoot at cops, to prevent them from getting caught or killed. But when the ballas stand at GS9 and one of them gets suspected, the ballas helping him would seem as the whole group only DMs, although they are just gang members helping and protecting other gang members.

Do you see what I mean?

[Pandalink]

I think that if you give the cop good prior warning that "If you try to arrest or hurt my friend, I will try to stop you" then it's usually alright.
The problem seems to arise when a group of apparent bystanders suddenly open fire, something the cop often cannot hope to predict.

[SugarD]

I think that if you give the cop good prior warning that "If you try to arrest or hurt my friend, I will try to stop you" then it's usually alright.
The problem seems to arise when a group of apparent bystanders suddenly open fire, something the cop often cannot hope to predict.

Perfect example. Well said Panda. I think you nailed it there.

[Gandalf]

I know, but this is a difficult situation, because when a driver gets pulled over, a mafia member, with 3 other armed mafia members and the driver gets suspected and runs of, the passengers are allowed to shoot at cops, to prevent them from getting caught or killed. But when the ballas stand at GS9 and one of them gets suspected, the ballas helping him would seem as the whole group only DMs, although they are just gang members helping and protecting other gang members.

Do you see what I mean?

First of all, if such scenario of mafia repeats itself frequently, expect them to be punished for copbaiting.
As for the situation, it depends if someone partakes in the roleplay scenario. A cop does not suspect out of nowhere, so there must be something happening. If the ' friends' partkae in this and (hopefully) try to defuse the situation, they might be helping. If they stand idling until one is supected and then start punching and shooting, or join later, it is DM.

[Karmps.]

Ballas are roleplaying at GS9, what about Frank Hawk returning to the RP always at GS9? When he dies he just comes back to GS9.Isn't returning to the Roleplay scene not allowed? This question I bet many SAPD members and such are thinking.

Thank you

-Carlo.

[Gandalf]

Ballas are roleplaying at GS9, what about Frank Hawk returning to the RP always at GS9? When he dies he just comes back to GS9.Isn't returning to the Roleplay scene not allowed? This question I bet many SAPD members and such are thinking.

Thank you

-Carlo.

As it is his spawn location, as long as he stands idle and does not partake in what is going on until finished, nothing wrong with it.

[Karmps.]

Recently there was a shootout in my friends HQ, he died and spawned there, he had a sit on the couch and an admin Tempbanned him for Rejoining the RP, is that allowed?