[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Gandalf]

Recently there was a shootout in my friends HQ, he died and spawned there, he had a sit on the couch and an admin Tempbanned him for Rejoining the RP, is that allowed?

If it is unclear to players if he will join or not, which could lead to him being suspected, and he does not wish to leave the area then a tempban in a correct solution, as it guarantees he will not join either by his own will or by being suspected for his presence.

[CharlieKasper]

Situation - A fellow group member was killed by a person. We called him up and asked him to meet us and we won't hurt him, but if he doesn't we will find him and knock him down. He simply said "Don't do that or I'll report you, I don't want to RP". That was a bs reason so we thought of going to him. We saw him at the highway with his car parked and he was standing next to it. We blocked the front and back of the car and got out of the car (Note- we had not even pulled out weapon, just were going to talk to him.). He simply got into his car and escaped us. We later caught him but were told to stop by administrators. (This question is nothing related to administration, please note)

Question is, you said that everyone is obliged to role play, but "I don't want to role play" - Is that a valid reason for us not to role play him? He already engaged in the role play by killing the group member and trying to escape us. Does this line "I don't want to role play" disallows us to role play with an individual every time he says it?

[SugarD]

Situation - A fellow group member was killed by a person. We called him up and asked him to meet us and we won't hurt him, but if he doesn't we will find him and knock him down. He simply said "Don't do that or I'll report you, I don't want to RP". That was a bs reason so we thought of going to him. We saw him at the highway with his car parked and he was standing next to it. We blocked the front and back of the car and got out of the car (Note- we had not even pulled out weapon, just were going to talk to him.). He simply got into his car and escaped us. We later caught him but were told to stop by administrators. (This question is nothing related to administration, please note)

Question is, you said that everyone is obliged to role play, but "I don't want to role play" - Is that a valid reason for us not to role play him? He already engaged in the role play by killing the group member and trying to escape us. Does this line "I don't want to role play" disallows us to role play with an individual every time he says it?

Simply stated, if a user says they don't want to roleplay anymore, they can walk away from it, however...in the example you gave, it sounds like they were still roleplaying and just said that to escape unharmed. That would just be abusing the Server Vision out of context to get away without risk, which would be the equivalent of a suspected user who gets cornered by a cop saying they no longer want to roleplay so they don't get arrested or killed when they have no other options left.

I'd assume that this would likely be a case-by-case situation as some users may not have bad intentions by saying they wish to no longer roleplay, but I'll leave that one to the Devs to clarify.

You actually brought up a very good point, though. I'm surprised no one else has run into this scenario before and asked about it yet, since the potential to abuse this "feature" of our community is very high and could be easily done previously. I am glad that this is the only case thus far.

[Mikro]

This have been said many times already. Read Gandalf's post on it:
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=57123.msg815220#msg815220

Walking out is simply not allowed. However.

- Make sure the other FULLY understands the reason, thus naming the person he killed and the relation with you.
- Make sure the killed person does not join the RP again.
- Make sure it is not simply an act of revenge killing, but involve some roleplay (asking him to come and then staying with your word of not hurting him is perfect).
- Make sure when you make direct contact (so not over phone) that you give the full reason again so he knows it was you who called.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Define: Revenge killing.

Now if someone was to come to me, ruin my drug deal or something, and  arrests me or something.
I would look to seek revenge, having them quickyl disposed of is good.
However is this revenge kill?
If it is it justs harms roleplay as commonly you would expect such a reactions, not everyone is as synister as me and goes to certain lenghts.

Also respond to
http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=84311.msg1329833#msg1329833

[Darxez]

Right.

With RS5 coming, we'll need a lot of cars because we won't have those if the reset is coming. How are you guys gonna do this ?

Will there be a special system, more temponary state cars ?

[SugarD]

Right.

With RS5 coming, we'll need a lot of cars because we won't have those if the reset is coming. How are you guys gonna do this ?

Will there be a special system, more temponary state cars ?

They might just make everyone suffer until they buy them all back

[Darxez]

They might just make everyone suffer until they buy them all back

Right, then the point: How do you wan't to lose your members ? Doing that.

[SugarD]

Right, then the point: How do you wan't to lose your members ? Doing that.

How would you lose members?

[Pandalink]

How would you lose members?

If there are no cars for anyone to drive then people will quit.

[SugarD]

If there are no cars for anyone to drive then people will quit.

If they are willing to quit because there are less vehicles available in the beginning then they don't deserve to play on the new scripts.

[Pandalink]

If they are willing to quit because there are less vehicles available in the beginning then they don't deserve to play on the new scripts.

Thinking like that won't bring them back. You wouldn't hear an MMO dev say something like "well if they don't like the new patch then they don't deserve to play".

[Mikro]

There are quite much state cars. Not on most busy places, but there are cars. Taxi's will finally have more to do. Besides, the basic cars/bikes are quite cheap. 10k-40k, so it won't take long till cars are back. If you think you should directly own the best and fastest car, then you probably don't understand the meaning of roleplay.

[Darxez]

Well, let's enjoy it then. I would care, walking is good for ya.

[SugarD]

Thinking like that won't bring them back. You wouldn't hear an MMO dev say something like "well if they don't like the new patch then they don't deserve to play".

True, but no one said the lack of vehicles would be permanent either. People just have to get over it until the server balances itself back out