[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Gandalf]

Alright, a question towards the developers.

There was a problem in the morning today.

I killed a guy and he went on cop duty, started chasing me.

I asked Pancher and Paul is that a rulebreak to get killed buy a guy, go on cop duty and chase the guy that killed you.
They said they don't know, I gotta ask Gandalf or someone else.

So my question is:

Can people when they die get on cop duty and chase the guy who killed them? Does this count as RK or is that allowed?

If he chases you as suspect it is not revenge killing. However if you have lost suspect and he comes after you using an invalid reason and killing you, it can be seen as revenge killing.
While in cop role he will have to follow his normal role and can not kill you if you give up.

[Gandalf]

I was wondering if it is allowed for cops to run up to a suspect, spray him to 20percent health and then deagle shoot him one time. I mean, it's not the reason pepperspray was issued to all cops, right? It was used for unarmed suspects, not as a kill-assist. In short, to what extend are cops able to use pepperspray? If this question has already been asked or answered, sorry.

Pepper spray can be used to neutralize a moving suspect. If a suspect however does not move or refuses to cooperater there is no reason to use it.

[Volcom]

Question:

Why our friends cant help us when we are suspect ? like im suspect driving a car , and some cops start to chase me and my friends drive-by them

[AK47]

Question:

Why our friends cant help us when we are suspect ? like im suspect driving a car , and some cops start to chase me and my friends drive-by them

I think he can't do it until he is suspect too.

[PulseEffect]

I think he can't do it until he is suspect too.

What I heard, he/she isn't allowed unless he was involved at the very start of the roleplay.

[TiMoN]

Can I have a full answer regarding DBing enemies who are on foot?

Example:

Suspect A and Suspect B gets stopped by cops and the cops got out of the car and began firing, the suspects starts DBing the cop.

Is that permitted or no? Not limiting the on foot DB to cops and suspects only.

[SugarD]

Question:

Why our friends cant help us when we are suspect ? like im suspect driving a car , and some cops start to chase me and my friends drive-by them

Because your friend has no RP reason to join into the situation. He is just cophunting by opening fire on them. Same situation would apply if no one was being chased, and you walked up to a cop and shot them.

Now say he picked you up in his car, got suspected for aiding you, and then opened fire as you both escaped. That would be a different situation.

[Gandalf]

Question:

Why our friends cant help us when we are suspect ? like im suspect driving a car , and some cops start to chase me and my friends drive-by them

Because your friend have no reason to shoot.
Remember this is a roleplay server.

[Cofiliano]

Question about cops intentionally not suspecting fellow members/friends who were there from the start of roleplay:


I get suspected after a roleplay with cops for 'drug dealing' in example. There's 4 more people with me, who were there from the start. The cops do not suspect them although they're aiding and committing a crime as much as I am, so they would have a 'easy' kill.
Members/friends takes out their arms in a roleplay way aim at the cops without shooting and says: "If you open fire on my Boss/Friend, I'll open fire on you!"

Now this is an example of what we did in a complete roleplay manner, since the 'friends cant help you if they aren't suspected' is as I understand pointed out for random civilians who shows up from no where and attack cops, not people who were there from the start of roleplay, did commit a criminal act, roleplayed the entire scene, and informed the cops in again, roleplay manner about the threat from them. Adding to the fact that we actually roleplayed everything, unlike the cops who just did /sus and shot, I need a confirmation is this good enough from our side.

[Pagon]

What is the minimal thing a cop has to do so that it counts as engaging?

I have had numerous cases where I drive past a suspect and he starts blazing his guns at me and my police car usually ends up in flames. Even if I have no intention to engage on the suspect via verbal or physical actions does it still count as engaging? For example I drove to PnS without my sirens on with normal speeds and a man exiting from Idlewood burger shot (or was it pizza shack?) started shooting at my car and I ended up being killed.

[Mikro]

What is the minimal thing a cop has to do so that it counts as engaging?

I have had numerous cases where I drive past a suspect and he starts blazing his guns at me and my police car usually ends up in flames. Even if I have no intention to engage on the suspect via verbal or physical actions does it still count as engaging? For example I drove to PnS without my sirens on with normal speeds and a man exiting from Idlewood burger shot (or was it pizza shack?) started shooting at my car and I ended up being killed.

It is always hard to visualize a situation by a description like the one you gave. If it is exactly like you said, the suspect had no reason at all to engage.

A suspect should not engage any cop who is simply driving around. Whenever the cop is a clear threat they may engage, but still the main objective of a suspect is to evade the cops.

[SugarD]

Question about cops intentionally not suspecting fellow members/friends who were there from the start of roleplay:


I get suspected after a roleplay with cops for 'drug dealing' in example. There's 4 more people with me, who were there from the start. The cops do not suspect them although they're aiding and committing a crime as much as I am, so they would have a 'easy' kill.
Members/friends takes out their arms in a roleplay way aim at the cops without shooting and says: "If you open fire on my Boss/Friend, I'll open fire on you!"

Now this is an example of what we did in a complete roleplay manner, since the 'friends cant help you if they aren't suspected' is as I understand pointed out for random civilians who shows up from no where and attack cops, not people who were there from the start of roleplay, did commit a criminal act, roleplayed the entire scene, and informed the cops in again, roleplay manner about the threat from them. Adding to the fact that we actually roleplayed everything, unlike the cops who just did /sus and shot, I need a confirmation is this good enough from our side.

If they were clearly aiding in the drug-dealing and cops didn't suspect them too, that is a failure on the police's part.

[Cofiliano]

Thank you Sugar, but I want an answer from the developers.

[SugarD]

Thank you Sugar, but I want an answer from the developers.

Not a problem.

[Murt]

Question about cops intentionally not suspecting fellow members/friends who were there from the start of roleplay:


I get suspected after a roleplay with cops for 'drug dealing' in example. There's 4 more people with me, who were there from the start. The cops do not suspect them although they're aiding and committing a crime as much as I am, so they would have a 'easy' kill.
Members/friends takes out their arms in a roleplay way aim at the cops without shooting and says: "If you open fire on my Boss/Friend, I'll open fire on you!"

Now this is an example of what we did in a complete roleplay manner, since the 'friends cant help you if they aren't suspected' is as I understand pointed out for random civilians who shows up from no where and attack cops, not people who were there from the start of roleplay, did commit a criminal act, roleplayed the entire scene, and informed the cops in again, roleplay manner about the threat from them. Adding to the fact that we actually roleplayed everything, unlike the cops who just did /sus and shot, I need a confirmation is this good enough from our side.

If a bunch of officer approaches a group by five people as you've explained here and only suspect one, then they should be aware that the associates might take not the matter lightly and will retaliate to save the suspected one. A mere example as you described here Cofi is totally fine in the context.