[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Gandalf]

I ASKED what kind of proofs do you guys need to take action on something which is OBVIOUS?

Do you need a video with the logs and possibly what they were speaking on TS/Skype while that was happening? This obviously isn't enough for an admin to take action, you can see from the SS.

You did not understand me for the first time, my question is: What's the proof that you need in these kind of situations?

Having seen the situation by yourself is the single and only valid proof.
For anything else, the admin team can refer you to the HQ in order to compare logs with your evidence and request.

What you show can be as much evidence of you returning to a RP situation as of the players breaking rules. There for it can not be judged without reviewing the whole situation, which admins are unable to do.

[Stivi]

Ok now has happened a lot recently. When you die on a famiyl/gang war, are you allowed to go back if there is another "meeting" ? Someone told me that 2hours have passed so they can come back ? I know it doesn't show their bravery, but still getting DMed by ghosts and zombies isn't fun.

[Acika]

Mafia war is still a same RP, doesn't matter does it last for 15minutes or 1 month.
Right after the fight is over and the losing side wants and attempts to make a new Role Play, it's a role play with intention to DM and RK cause they have lost in a previous fight(s).

So no, you can't come back. You can come on the meeting if it's a meeting with people who survived the previous fight(s) from both sides.

It was like that before, i don't know did something change.

New families/players don't know much about that and they come back every 30 mins, claiming it's a new RP.

[Murt]

Ok now has happened a lot recently. When you die on a famiyl/gang war, are you allowed to go back if there is another "meeting" ? Someone told me that 2hours have passed so they can come back ? I know it doesn't show their bravery, but still getting DMed by ghosts and zombies isn't fun.

If the current role-play situation is still on-going that you died in you cannot return. After the role-play is over there are opportunities to start a new role-play scenario but it shouldn't be with the intentions to get revenge from the previous one, bear that in mind.

[Stivi]

If the current role-play situation is still on-going that you died in you cannot return. After the role-play is over there are opportunities to start a new role-play scenario but it shouldn't be with the intentions to get revenge from the previous one, bear that in mind.

Oh, I didn't die....

[Gandalf]

Ok now has happened a lot recently. When you die on a famiyl/gang war, are you allowed to go back if there is another "meeting" ? Someone told me that 2hours have passed so they can come back ? I know it doesn't show their bravery, but still getting DMed by ghosts and zombies isn't fun.

There is no time limit or any other limit on meeting someone once a roleplay situation has ended. However if the same people are constantly meeting, they can be punished for revenge killing.
Be more creative. Violence is not a necessary component of roleplay.

[Lincoln.]

Violence is not a necessary component of roleplay.

If we had less supermans on the server, I'd agree with you.

[SugarD]

If we had less supermans on the server, I'd agree with you.

We don't have "Supermans" on the server. We have players that think killing is a productive way to end a roleplay every single time. Being one of them doesn't excuse complaining about it. If you don't want them to all kill each other all the time, then you need to make sure you aren't doing it either. Lead by example, and over time you can make a difference.

[Pandalink]

Ok now has happened a lot recently. When you die on a famiyl/gang war, are you allowed to go back if there is another "meeting" ? Someone told me that 2hours have passed so they can come back ? I know it doesn't show their bravery, but still getting DMed by ghosts and zombies isn't fun.

Generally that kind of thing is worked out between the warring groups, so that there is no confusion on either side.

[Kaze]

Hello,

I recently banned myself in order to prepare for my upcoming exams. The reason to ban myself as I find myself rather 'addictive' to the server and I really needed this and it actually worked. I have done so much revision I am very confident in achieving a B+ grade. I recall getting banned for the same reason about a year ago?

First encounter - Money Hacks. I had enough of the legit money I earned, I DIDN'T want hacked money. I just wanted to see how does it work (the money you ''spawn'' only remains on the screen). It was more lets say of a experiment. I did explain that on my unban request. First Unban Request

Second encounter - Money hacks. This time it will link with the opening paragraph. I really needed to ban myself in order to study. Real lifes does take priority. I DID ask the admin ingame at the time kindly (Qsens) if I could request a ban but he denied which resulted in 'hacking'. Even at this stage, I don't need the money. I didnt want it to go that far in terms of me 'hacking' but my kind favour was denied. You may say shit like 'Uninstall SAMP' and all that but I am 100 percent sure that will not work. The main thing I am here for is will I get a unban for committing the same ''crime'' twice, a year later?

[Gandalf]

Hello,

I recently banned myself in order to prepare for my upcoming exams. The reason to ban myself as I find myself rather 'addictive' to the server and I really needed this and it actually worked. I have done so much revision I am very confident in achieving a B+ grade. I recall getting banned for the same reason about a year ago?

First encounter - Money Hacks. I had enough of the legit money I earned, I DIDN'T want hacked money. I just wanted to see how does it work (the money you ''spawn'' only remains on the screen). It was more lets say of a experiment. I did explain that on my unban request. First Unban Request

Second encounter - Money hacks. This time it will link with the opening paragraph. I really needed to ban myself in order to study. Real lifes does take priority. I DID ask the admin ingame at the time kindly (Qsens) if I could request a ban but he denied which resulted in 'hacking'. Even at this stage, I don't need the money. I didnt want it to go that far in terms of me 'hacking' but my kind favour was denied. You may say shit like 'Uninstall SAMP' and all that but I am 100 percent sure that will not work. The main thing I am here for is will I get a unban for committing the same ''crime'' twice, a year later?

First of all, you will need to teach yourself a better discipline if you wish to go through life. If you need to study instead of spending time with your GF, will you break up the relationship? If you need to spend less time in the dance club, will you get yourself expelled ? Do not burn your bridges but learn to control yourself.
I am of course happy that Argonath is so addictive you will be banned here and do not get yourself banned from all SA:MP servers....

As for getting unbanned, it will depend on all of your punishment history, and when you will place the unban request. At the time you place the request, the manager that will look in to it will decide it, and if your record is not too bad in general you can be unbanned.
However you will have to uninstall the hacks, as we do not allow people having any modification installed that gives advantage over other. Not using them is no excuse. And hopefully you will find a way not to have to install them again next year.

[Kaze]

First of all, you will need to teach yourself a better discipline if you wish to go through life. If you need to study instead of spending time with your GF, will you break up the relationship? If you need to spend less time in the dance club, will you get yourself expelled ? Do not burn your bridges but learn to control yourself.
I am of course happy that Argonath is so addictive you will be banned here and do not get yourself banned from all SA:MP servers....

As for getting unbanned, it will depend on all of your punishment history, and when you will place the unban request. At the time you place the request, the manager that will look in to it will decide it, and if your record is not too bad in general you can be unbanned.
However you will have to uninstall the hacks, as we do not allow people having any modification installed that gives advantage over other. Not using them is no excuse. And hopefully you will find a way not to have to install them again next year.

I completely agree with what you said above, it does make sense. As soon as I got banned a fresh game has been installed. Thank you for the reply, will take all of this in.

[TiMoN]

Does roleplaying a kill counts as a regular kill(via weapons and a crime is issued)?

I have recently 'executed' someone via pointing my deagle into his face and then interacting with him as a bullet has been fired(I didn't fire anything, I just said so in a /me, although I had enough bullets to kill him and he agreed on the kill being valid). After killing him(RPly), he then returned to me with a bunch of guys from his 'family' an claimed that roleplay a kill doesn't count as a valid one as it had no script support.

My question is(Plus the one above):
Did he break the revenge killing rule?

[RizzE.]

A question involving Drive-bying and suicide as a suspect.
 
It starts with me becoming a suspect and i try to evade, i get chased by cops that dont DB, now this usually means it will be a good chase. Then there are the  dbing cops, oh man i hate them with a passion, not the players but the dbing and on some occasions when the cops destroy my car with db, i dont get out even though i have time. I have been warned for this and i know it is a rulebreak.

So i read the Arpd/Sapd regulations (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=28421.0)

Now i thought, i like a good chase now and then so i bought myself a Greenwood (max speed around 141-145 Km/h)
Did this stop the dbing? No it did not, but then again i dont know what i expected. Why would i give up to a cops that db a slow car like this when every law enforcement vehicle can catch up with this car easily? People might think this is silly but some people like a good chase both criminals and cops. So when they db this slow car into pieces, why cant i be allowed to be in it when it exploads? Why should i let them get their money?

[Gandalf]

A question involving Drive-bying and suicide as a suspect.
 
It starts with me becoming a suspect and i try to evade, i get chased by cops that dont DB, now this usually means it will be a good chase. Then there are the  dbing cops, oh man i hate them with a passion, not the players but the dbing and on some occasions when the cops destroy my car with db, i dont get out even though i have time. I have been warned for this and i know it is a rulebreak.

So i read the Arpd/Sapd regulations (http://arpd.argonathrpg.com/forum/index.php?topic=28421.0)

Now i thought, i like a good chase now and then so i bought myself a Greenwood (max speed around 141-145 Km/h)
Did this stop the dbing? No it did not, but then again i dont know what i expected. Why would i give up to a cops that db a slow car like this when every law enforcement vehicle can catch up with this car easily? People might think this is silly but some people like a good chase both criminals and cops. So when they db this slow car into pieces, why cant i be allowed to be in it when it exploads? Why should i let them get their money?

It has nothing to do with how fast your car is.
A cop on a bike is allowed to use DB if he has no other way to stop a car. Which means that if he is chasing you alone, he can.
SAPD has added restrictions of it having to be a faster car as they believe their cooperation is strong enough to stop you in another way as long as they can follow you.
However server policy isthat any cop who is chasing a car on a bike can DB the car as long as there is no alternative.