[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Aragorn]

Forced RP is taking place a lot... FBI conference is the one of the examples... When on Roleplay event the group of players forced other roleplay event - hit... By which they actually ruined the previous event - conference...
Forced roleplay can be taking a hostage who has his own roleplay storyline or involved in other events...

[Fatboy_Rob]

Example:
Jack attempts to rob Billy.
Billy's two friends come up and confront Jack, Jack already mad, one of Billy's friends call Jack a name, Jack aims his gun at one of his friends and kills him, because he insulted him. (He called him a B-itch)

Question: is that DM?

[Gandalf]

Example:
Jack attempts to rob Billy.
Billy's two friends come up and confront Jack, Jack already mad, one of Billy's friends call Jack a name, Jack aims his gun at one of his friends and kills him, because he insulted him. (He called him a B-itch)

Question: is that DM?

Answer:

From the friends point of view, if you see a guy aiming a gun at your friend its kind of stupid to call him names, and if fact if you are not armed its kind of stupid to go and help him at all. If you insult a guy pointing a gun at you friend, you better have one pointing at him or expect to get shot.
From Jacks point of view, the robbery was not going to work after friends show up. His choice was between calling the thing off or losing even more by getting wanted. If you like RL play, no gangster will risk dying for murder because of killing a guy in front of 2 witnesses. He would hurt him for his language, but not kill.


From admins point of view : No DM, as the kill was for a reason. If anything a warning for flaming to the killed guy.

Reason for conflict: one-sided RP. The intended victim did not want to cooperate, and the robber did not want to give up his play when the target already became impossible.
Learn to read situations better.

[Emilio_Barzini]

Forced RP is taking place a lot... FBI conference is the one of the examples... When on Roleplay event the group of players forced other roleplay event - hit... By which they actually ruined the previous event - conference...
Forced roleplay can be taking a hostage who has his own roleplay storyline or involved in other events...

I agree with that but if you started to roleplay don't ruin it from the middle .

And remember that this is a roleplay server and players made their own decision and came to play here so they have to roleplay so there is nothing really Called force roleplay unless you are in another rp situation .

[polopolo]

three admins see's an flame.

Admin 1 does an simple /warn
Admin 2 does /kick
Admin 3 /bans

Who is doing correct?
I see many admins who dont know what to do, and I see many discussions if it is /warn or /kick for an rulebreak.
In other words, when /warn, and when /kick an /ban.

[JohhnyJaz]

someone says can i test your pimped car? ok. he test it and never returns and the guy who pimped the car reports to admins

What should admin do?

[Hess]

someone says can i test your pimped car? ok. he test it and never returns and the guy who pimped the car reports to admins

What should admin do?

My view: I would say it wasn't a good idea for that person to let someone test their ride... I mean you wouldn't do that in real life with a pimped car would you? You wouldn't just give them the keys and let them drive off with it

[Gandalf]

three admins see's an flame.

Admin 1 does an simple /warn
Admin 2 does /kick
Admin 3 /bans

Who is doing correct?
I see many admins who dont know what to do, and I see many discussions if it is /warn or /kick for an rulebreak.
In other words, when /warn, and when /kick an /ban.

All three actions are correct based on the level of the admin and the interpretation of the flame.

For a 'small' flame, a /banana + /warn can be enough.
For strong or repeated flaming use /kick
For very strong flaming or racism /ban

[Gandalf]

someone says can i test your pimped car? ok. he test it and never returns and the guy who pimped the car reports to admins

What should admin do?

If the player who lost his car is the owner, he has the /heydude command to locate his car. Should the car still be driven, admins can ask the driver to return the car to the owner and use /ejectout (which is a warning) or /kick to remove the player, after which the owner can retrieve his car from the area (No teleporting allowed).

If the player is not the owner of the car, he has no rights,as he gave the car out of his free will.

Related: Carjacking and Car stealing.
Carjacking is removing the driver of a vehicle by force to either drive away or stop the driver from getting away. This is not allowed. However there are two exceptions to this rule.
- Cops can carjack a wanted player.
- A carjacked player can reclaim his vehicle,although when he has reported the incident to admins this could lead to him being punished.

Car stealing is taking a vehicle that has no driver, but of which the driver is standing near by.  Car stealing is similar to car jacking. If you need transportation and someone is standing near an empty car, be so kind as to ask him permission.

[JohhnyJaz]

thnk you.

[Emilio_Barzini]

All three actions are correct based on the level of the admin and the interpretation of the flame.

For a 'small' flame, a /banana + /warn can be enough.
For strong or repeated flaming use /kick
For very strong flaming or racism /ban

So can admins actually give a straight ban against racism ?

[Gandalf]

So can admins actually give a straight ban against racism ?

If they feel the racism is intended, yes.

[JohhnyJaz]

Why is flaming IC not allowed? it should be roleplay like IRL people flame to each other like when carcrash etc.

[LillMumin]

Why is flaming IC not allowed? it should be roleplay like IRL people flame to each other like when carcrash etc.

Then a solution might be what the f*** are u doing u stupid dumbs***t.

And people use IC flame direct to the player sitting at the computer like:
"U lame f*cking RolePlayer! U really suck u dumbsh*t"

And then when u report him for flaming to admins, u get back from him that:

"It was IC!! i only RolePlayed!!!!1!1oneoneeleven.."  .......

[Gandalf]

Why is flaming IC not allowed? it should be roleplay like IRL people flame to each other like when carcrash etc.

Our policy is that you should be aware of your language and what it means. Understand the words you use, and be ready to be answered on them.
By making a difference between IC and OOC you allow people to hide behind their character.

Flaming and swearing is not allowed, even if it happens IRL. The rule can be bent, but not broken.