[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[The_Wolf]

Police are allowed to ram to disable vehicles, civilians however should not be.  (I have regulary been targeted when observing suspect helos even when I try to keep distance so suspets agree with ramming, its why I use a Nevada now when after suspects in the air!

A player today kept arguing with me that Gandalf allowed him on MSN to ram helicopters with planes. Again it was mafia members ramming eachother in sky and one player reported the other one.
I asked via PM the rammer to not ram in air with planes, he told me that he had permittion from this topic and from Gandalf on MSN, he even gave me Gandalf's MSN so I can ask...

Ramming is against server rules, but as soon as I know, it is allowed for cops to disable suspect's vehicles. I think air trasport should be no exception of this rule and again cops only should be able to ram out helicopters, since there is no other way you can take down suspect in helicopter (if he is flying high).

[Myggen]

Situation:
Player1 finds an unowned car and think that he will be able to sell it and earn good money.
Player2 gets interested in the car and want to give a bid. Player2 ask Player1 if he owned this car before.
Player1 claims that he have owned it before. Player2 gets more interested and give a bid.
Player2 bid get accepted and Player2 ask Player1 where its spawn. Player1 say that he cant remember
becuse he have maked it spawn another place. Player2 go happy from the place with a new car
and Player1 go happy from the place with some easy earnd money.

My question: Can Player1 get banned for scam Player2 ?

[Gandalf]

A player today kept arguing with me that Gandalf allowed him on MSN to ram helicopters with planes. Again it was mafia members ramming eachother in sky and one player reported the other one.
I asked via PM the rammer to not ram in air with planes, he told me that he had permittion from this topic and from Gandalf on MSN, he even gave me Gandalf's MSN so I can ask...

Ramming is against server rules, but as soon as I know, it is allowed for cops to disable suspect's vehicles. I think air trasport should be no exception of this rule and again cops only should be able to ram out helicopters, since there is no other way you can take down suspect in helicopter (if he is flying high).

The player in question posed it as being a hitman who was attempting to make a paid hit. The argumentation was similar, the only way to kill the target was by ramming.
My answer, to be clear, was that a hitman is supposed to do their work largely undetected so this method was not according to hitman job.

[Gandalf]

Situation:
Player1 finds an unowned car and think that he will be able to sell it and earn good money.
Player2 gets interested in the car and want to give a bid. Player2 ask Player1 if he owned this car before.
Player1 claims that he have owned it before. Player2 gets more interested and give a bid.
Player2 bid get accepted and Player2 ask Player1 where its spawn. Player1 say that he cant remember
becuse he have maked it spawn another place. Player2 go happy from the place with a new car
and Player1 go happy from the place with some easy earnd money.

My question: Can Player1 get banned for scam Player2 ?

Player 2 should be ashamed for his stupidity in paying Player 1 for an unowned car.

[Bianconeri]

just something about powergaming/metagaming:

a cop is chasing the suspect, who is hiding in a tunnel(for example the tunnel at the parking garage at east beach)
where normally nobody comes,
cop can use GPS to find the location(east beach, LS) but not exact location,

but is it allowed to look on map and all(powergaming/metagaming)
lots of players complain if you do us it(not me, but at others)
for example you know the others name by looking at the name above head, poor RP,
metagaming/powergaming, ppl complain about it,
its the same as looking on radar to find a suspect which is hiding,

is it not allowed? or is it just very poor RP of that cop?

 :ps: i hope it isnt allowed, its really poor RP, if its allowed then its wrong

[Pancher]

We do not have rules that allow or disallow metagaming.

[Brains]

Yeah, in fact it means that u dont have a good knowledge of RP and it is ur problem..

[Gandalf]

just something about powergaming/metagaming:

a cop is chasing the suspect, who is hiding in a tunnel(for example the tunnel at the parking garage at east beach)
where normally nobody comes,
cop can use GPS to find the location(east beach, LS) but not exact location,

but is it allowed to look on map and all(powergaming/metagaming)
lots of players complain if you do us it(not me, but at others)
for example you know the others name by looking at the name above head, poor RP,
metagaming/powergaming, ppl complain about it,
its the same as looking on radar to find a suspect which is hiding,

is it not allowed? or is it just very poor RP of that cop?

 :ps: i hope it isnt allowed, its really poor RP, if its allowed then its wrong

People are not allowed to complain about poor RP.

[polopolo]

People are not allowed to complain about poor RP.

Does that mena that admins can banana/warn an player for it?

[Gandalf]

Does that mena that admins can banana/warn an player for it?

The quality of a player and how he plays is not included in the rules of the server.
Calling somebody a 'bad RPer' of 'poor RP' is there for a flame towards the players.
Admins are allowed to take actions against flaming.

[JohhnyJaz]

Player 1 RPs a figth with Player 2
Player 2: Fights back with player 2
Player 3: Joins the fight from somewhere unkown and is not related to the rp.... can an admin warn/kick him?

[Pandalink]

How do you know if the 3rd player is involved or not? :o

[JohhnyJaz]

ex. I have watched from the start how they rped....

[9r2e5i3k]

And if the player3 was late (eg. because he crashed)?

[JohhnyJaz]

But what If i have watched it from the beginning Ex i was allthe time with player 1?