[SA:MP] Developers Answer: Give Examples

[Stanley_Taylor]

I meant Bizz interiors also!

Click on a picture and you'll see a description number. That's the interior ID.

Because this is a new page, I'll post my question again. I got confirmation I'm allowed to start my driving school with valid licenses.

In the gallery they're not listed, so could you give me the driving school bizz interior ID's?

[TruthSvensson]

• A suspect follows an officer as he retreats in a police cruiser. (Or other vehicle)

I think this is acceptable since police officer attacked that suspect, which means suspect can attack him back. You can't expect letting him go.

[Pandalink]

• A suspect moves towards a police position. (Such as an officer behind his police car down the road calling for backup)

Absolutely fine.. the cop is engaged in combat with the criminal, even if not with guns firing.

• A suspect enters a police department with no intentions of surrender. (To taunt or kill police)

Hunting.

• A suspect follows an officer, shooting, as he flees on foot.

Fine, but you should leave the officer when he escapes in a car, do not get your own and follow.

• A suspect approaches an officer who had not confronted him at all and opens fire.

I rule this as being fine when I deal with it as an admin, because the cop is always a potential threat. When I was on my nonadmin and I got warned because I killed a cop before he shot me, I was very annoyed (he was dismounting his motorbike to shoot me, so I killed him). Sadly, the cop was Legend on his nonadmin and he ran to admins instantly because he died and wanted revenge I guess.

• A suspect is on a building shooting police, even ones that are passing with no knowledge of the suspect.

Hunting, if he is just shooting from a roof.

• A suspect intentionally approaches a police officer with the intent to start a conflict. (He is already wanted)

Impossible to define, the criminal may have just been running that way.

• A civilian opens fire because of such reasons as "I am in a gang/mafia, I hate cops" at a traffic stop. (The officer has not made any moves such as drawing a weapon)

Not to do with cop-hunting, thats a matter for the admins to treat as simple DM.

• A suspect drives by a police unit and the passenger opens fire. (Drive-by)

Similarly, the cop is a potential threat and getting a tyre out early may save you later on if the copcar turns around to chase you.


I'd be very surprised if I'm way off, because these seem awfully fair.
I realise I am not a developer, but I wanted to share my personal admin actions in these situations. Hopefully you'll get a full developer reply of course. I'm also bored. =o
In my experience, if the cop is nearby, the criminal may open fire as he wishes, to clear the immediate threat in the area.
A criminal should always try to escape, or work to make his escape in the near future easier.
An exception is a standoff where the criminals simply hold position in a stronghold waiting to be killed or run out of ammo.

[Gandalf]

Situation: Group1 is atacking Group2. They both have validations on. Group1 use the help of random people mostly RP clan members ( like AV,WS, Rstart etc ) on the atack on Group2. None of does people, are part of Group1 not even tagless, or do they have any reason to atack Group2 ( wich is clasified as Dmed, from there side).

Question: Can people who are not alieds or part of the Group1 and doesnt have any "personal" validations with Group2, anticipate in atack on Group2 ?

Validation is for gang wars. In a group fight, they can be hired to help, this will be clear as they will be present at the location that is agreed to hold the fight.  If they attack outside group fights (I mean like an attack by one or two players on another one) it is DM.

[Gandalf]

Situation: i was selling weapons to Joe Corleone and he paid me half b4 the deal and agreed to pay the other half of the cash after the deal but he and his friends killed me right after i sent him all the guns b4 i got the rest of the cash

Question: is it considered scamming to not pay for the guns you agreed to pay for even if you got killed?

Illegal deals are always risky. Have backup ready.

[Gandalf]

I really can't give an exact situation, but I just want a direct clarification from a developer, noone else. I have been told, multiple times, different things. Sometimes, exact opposite things. I want to be able to know, for sure, how to react in a certain situation.

On Argonath you are supposed to do RP which means that you should follow the think patterns people will follow in life.
If you are suspect, you are wanted by the cops. This means that it should be your target to either get away from the cops, be jailed for your crimes, or go down fighting. That last part is the most confusing.
Going down fighting does not mean that you can find as many cops you can in order to kill them (usually followed by flaming if some cop manages to kill you). It means you run, ir find a place where you defend your position.

Running after any cop telling ' you suck' and ' I pwn all cops'  is not RP, but more like team DM. There for not allowed.

[Gandalf]

I want to start a driving school, so I have a few questions:

1. Am I allowed to start one?
2. Will the players get a drivers license under /registration?
3. In the gallery it's not listed, so could you give me the driving school bizz interior ID's?

Thank you.

1. Yes
2. Yes if you hold proper exams.
3. they are listed.

[Gregersen]

I got a question about a Driving School.
As seen its allowed to make one.

1) If the driving school only has one lesson and one exam? Is that allowed? (Theory and exam)
2) If the driving school gets known, is it possible to get a script for the driving school? (ig)
3) Is it possible to get the topic sticked in Cityhall @ forums?

- Just a fast little question list i:

[Gandalf]

I got a question about a Driving School.
As seen its allowed to make one.

1) If the driving school only has one lesson and one exam? Is that allowed? (Theory and exam)
2) If the driving school gets known, is it possible to get a script for the driving school? (ig)
3) Is it possible to get the topic sticked in Cityhall @ forums?

- Just a fast little question list i:

1. Driving school can be helds as the school sees fit. However the Driving License Inspectors (admins) would have to approve of the quality.
2. Probably not, but if its good enough it might.
3. No, not too many stickies possible.

[smey]

Situation:

Suspects who get successfully arrested, are found having drugs on them

Question:

Before today I was told they can be forced to hand over their drugs. Because they could store it in their homes, it's their own responsibility if they have in their pockets. But, today I heard they no longer have to hand over the drugs when arrested.

Is it possible to make a clear rule for it? Either: YES, they have to hand it over, or, NO, they can keep it.

It seems more then fair and normal that they have to hand it over.


Question:

Does [RI], who owns the 24/7 at GS9, also own the area around it? I've seen various people saying both yes and no, but again, a clear rule/answer would be useful.

[Janar]

Question:

Does [RI], who owns the 24/7 at GS9, also own the area around it? I've seen various people saying both yes and no, but again, a clear rule/answer would be useful.

RI only owns that 24/7 at GS9! Gas Station itself is owned by Government.
But RI just wants to keep area around 24/7 clear also.

[Austin]

RI only owns that 24/7 at GS9! Gas Station itself is owned by Government.
But RI just wants to keep area around 24/7 clear also.

That would make sense....
See it as RP. Where would people pay when fueled their car up? Inside the 24/7...

[Gregersen]

That would make sense....
See it as RP. Where would people pay when fueled their car up? Inside the 24/7...

In my opinion, the GS also belongs to RI but yeah, the Devolopers knows best :]

[Gandalf]

Situation:

Suspects who get successfully arrested, are found having drugs on them

Question:

Before today I was told they can be forced to hand over their drugs. Because they could store it in their homes, it's their own responsibility if they have in their pockets. But, today I heard they no longer have to hand over the drugs when arrested.

Is it possible to make a clear rule for it? Either: YES, they have to hand it over, or, NO, they can keep it.

It seems more then fair and normal that they have to hand it over.

Good RP would mean a player would hand over the drugs which were found.
However this can not be forced by admins.
Reasons are that admins are unable to see how much drugs were found, and unless ther were present have no reason to know if the /frisk command was used within regulations using it until you find drugs in not according to regulations).

In the future a scripted solution may be introduced, until then it is up to RP. Please not that constant suspecting as reaction to refusal is not allowed.

Question:

Does [RI], who owns the 24/7 at GS9, also own the area around it? I've seen various people saying both yes and no, but again, a clear rule/answer would be useful.

There has been a note from the Presidents office regarding this.

[9r2e5i3k]

Situation:
Officer is handling Criminal_GangA. Suddenly, Criminal_GangB arrives and blasts Officer from behind, without even a single word.

Question:
Is that deathmatching?
If it's not deathmatching, because of some "gang alliance" allows that, the rules would seem inconsistent between servers.